How are Identification and Credit Cards Any Different From the Mark of the Beast?

[Silverwings]

I don't think credit cards and identification cards are the mark. If we want to look for where that is in today's world, maybe consider the birth certificate that is common in most every nation on the planet.
Without that you are not able to get anything at all when you come of age for it. No driving license, no job, of course no social security card, nothing.

The Amish people are the only one s that live without birth certificates, They are born at home, go to their own schools only to the 8th grade, never take jobs outside of the family, never drive cars , do not pay into or take social security , do not have to pay income taxes due to the number of children they all have, so they basically live in another world apart from us English people.

 

[Silverwings]

But rather, in contrast, the question I'm asking in this thread is, "How is what's happening right now really any different from what's already been going on for many years, if not decades, before what's happening right now?"

The bible tells us it is going to happen, and we have never been any closer to having the technology to bring it to pass until now. Everything that has been happening for years, has all been leading up to what we have now, and the not too distant future.

 

[Silverwings]

That coming mark which will go in/on the hand or the forehead will eventually replace those other methods of electronic buying and selling, so that the mark will be the only way to electronically credit and debit one's bank account. By making all other methods of buying and selling obsolete, this is how he will force all people to receive the mark.

We have never been any closer to actually having the technology to do this than right now.

 

[Silverwings]

Lately, I have read and heard several Christians saying that a coin shortage and move towards a cashless society is an indication that the end times are near. I have also heard a lot of talk about the need for Christians to prepare for and take a stance against the things that will happen by stockpiling weapons and precious metals.

I believe the need for stockpiling weapons comes from the fact that lawlessness is becoming more pervasive in our society than we have previously experienced, more like the wild west than what we have been used to.

And the need to protect your wealth comes from the fact that gold and silver continue to increase in worth, and there is only so much of it, not an unlimited supply, inflation seems to eat away at everything else, but gold and silver just keep increasing in value. If so it seems that it will always be in demand, and would be much better to have than only access to a bunch of numbers with no real substance, that could be removed with the strike of the keyboard.

 

[Lanolin]

you can also ADD money by the stroke of a keyboard. if you are any good at computer programming. Its not hard.
the other thing people arent aware of is.. that Jesus had a sword out of his mouth. He wasnt stockpiling weapons lol. He just spoke the word and that was it.

 

[oldethennew]

Silver,
hub and I are as 'off the grid' as our Saviour wants us to be at this time of our lives -
we have been further-off than we are now, even without our current 'land-line,
but we go where He leads us for His reasons, no questions asked...

where we are right now is where He wants us to be, and we 'never, ever, give into any kind of fear',
when we know for certain that we are obeying/following His every instruction=Biblically and personally',
this is His total 'covering/freedom' in our lives that we may serve Him in every situation that
we are presented with, each and every day...
by the way;
we don't 'owe or own' credit cards...

 

[DWR]

The main reason people are collecting gold and silver has to do with the expectation of economic collapse and the "death" of the dollar. It has less to do with the mark of the beast, except as a possible currency between people who do not take the mark and deal with each other directly and privately. You would not be able to spend and gold or silver at Walmart. It would most likely be confiscated the moment it was known that you had it on you.

Personally, I believe that Christians will not have to worry about taking the mark of the beast - they will be killed for not worshiping the beast before that scenario has a chance to come about. (i.e. - they will first kill all who will not worship the beast - then - make everyone else take the mark of the beast)

That is the way I see it, anyway...

By the time the mark comes, there will be no Walmart.
The worlds economy will collapse before the mark comes.

 

[GaryA]

spend and gold or silver

spend any gold or silver

 

[Prycejosh1987]

First, please allow me to give a little background information about my own Christian walk -- I was raised WELS Lutheran, which sees the book of Revelation as an allegory and does not take it literally. My time here on CC has really been the first time I've met other Christians who take the book of Revelation as a literal teaching.

There are literal and superficial meanings to the book of revelation. It is a spiritual book, and only the spiritual man and people with a lot of spiritual knowledge can truly understand exactly what it is meant without error. I understand most of it but not all. It goes to show you just how intelligent and spiritual the disciple John was. He understood everything.