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Ok. Let's have a bible lesson.
The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The word I used was "Tanakh", which is the proper name for what you call the "old testament".
The Tanakh IS 3/4 of the bible, and it actually differs from the KJV. It's more in-line with the NIV, to be honest.
The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The word I used was "Tanakh", which is the proper name for what you call the "old testament".
The Tanakh IS 3/4 of the bible, and it actually differs from the KJV. It's more in-line with the NIV, to be honest.
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I understand what you are trying to say and I don't know how to respond. Because I am as set on the KJV as you are on whatever bible you use,but I suggest that you do some research and pray that God will reviel to you the truth.
I guess the reason I was so concerned is because the girl who posted this seemed so inocent and she didn't know what Bible to use so I was very concerned for her and I didn't want her to be deceived. I will tell you right now, If the KJV is not the Inspired Word of God then I am a confused man, because those other Bibles teach a different message, Im not saying a person could not be saved through them, but I think they could become very confused. I find it interestin that the churches that use the modern translations are the ones that lean toward liberalism and apostacy and I don't think that is a coincidence.
I guess the reason I was so concerned is because the girl who posted this seemed so inocent and she didn't know what Bible to use so I was very concerned for her and I didn't want her to be deceived. I will tell you right now, If the KJV is not the Inspired Word of God then I am a confused man, because those other Bibles teach a different message, Im not saying a person could not be saved through them, but I think they could become very confused. I find it interestin that the churches that use the modern translations are the ones that lean toward liberalism and apostacy and I don't think that is a coincidence.
I'm sure that's what you've been told 
But an examination of the facts shows that it was translated from the Latin Vulgate.
No, but he commissioned and reviewed the translation until it was the way he wanted it, which is pretty much the same thing.
1) I've not quoted his political enemies.
2) I actually do know about his lifestyle, because I've done this little thing called "research"
3) If the dead have done bad things, yes, I think we should call those things out.
But an examination of the facts shows that it was translated from the Latin Vulgate. No, but he commissioned and reviewed the translation until it was the way he wanted it, which is pretty much the same thing.
1) I've not quoted his political enemies.
2) I actually do know about his lifestyle, because I've done this little thing called "research"
3) If the dead have done bad things, yes, I think we should call those things out.
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I'm sure that's what you've been told But an examination of the facts shows that it was translated from the Latin Vulgate.
No, but he commissioned and reviewed the translation until it was the way he wanted it, which is pretty much the same thing.
1) I've not quoted his political enemies.
2) I actually do know about his lifestyle, because I've done this little thing called "research"
3) If the dead have done bad things, yes, I think we should call those things out.
But an examination of the facts shows that it was translated from the Latin Vulgate. No, but he commissioned and reviewed the translation until it was the way he wanted it, which is pretty much the same thing.
1) I've not quoted his political enemies.
2) I actually do know about his lifestyle, because I've done this little thing called "research"
3) If the dead have done bad things, yes, I think we should call those things out.
the fact that you are using a multi pronged attack against the KJV shows you have your own agenda and are not intellectually honest
I suppose the fact that you feel the need to convert to Judaism says it all
G
1604 James holds the Hampton Court Conference in order to hear of, "things pretended to be amiss in the church." It is here that King James agrees that a new translation of the scriptures is in order. He appoints 54 men to the translation work. The translators will divide into six groups that meet at Cambridge, Oxford, and Westminster.
1611 The Authorized (King James) Version of the scriptures is published.
1612 Prince Henry, James' eldest son and heir apparent, dies at 18 years of age.
James has the body of Mary Queen of Scots interred in Westminster Abbey in London.
1616 The Workes, a collection of the king's writings, is published.
1618 James issues The Kings Maiesties Declaration to His Subjects Concerning Lawfull Sports to be Used∗ in response to the Puritan practice of barring their fellow citizens from lawful recreations on Sundays.
1619 James' wife, Queen Anne, dies.
1625 King James VI & I dies and his adult son accedes to the throne as Charles I. On a cold day in January 1649, King Charles I will be executed by order of Puritan Oliver Cromwell and other insurgents after their takeover of the British government.
Quotes from the KJV preface
For when Your Highness had once out of deep judgment apprehended how convenient it was, that out of the Original Sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own, and other foreign Languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact Translation of the holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require
"Neither did we think much to consult the Translators or Commentators, Chaldee, Hebrew, Syrian, Greek, or Latin, no nor the Spanish, French, Italian, or Dutch; neither did we disdain to revise that which we had done, and to bring back to the anvil that which we had hammered; but having and using as great helps as were needful, and fearing no reproach for slowness, nor coveting praise for expedition, we have at length, through the good hand of the Lord upon us, brought the work to that pass that you see."
But that we should express the same notion in the same particular word; as, for example, if we translate the Hebrew or Greek word once by purpose, never to call it intent; if one where journeying, never travelling; if one where think, never suppose; if one where pain, never ache; if one where joy, never gladness, etc.;
The title page of the KJV says “The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments : translated out of the original tongues, and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His Majesty's special command : appointed to be read in churches”
1611 The Authorized (King James) Version of the scriptures is published.
1612 Prince Henry, James' eldest son and heir apparent, dies at 18 years of age.
James has the body of Mary Queen of Scots interred in Westminster Abbey in London.
1616 The Workes, a collection of the king's writings, is published.
1618 James issues The Kings Maiesties Declaration to His Subjects Concerning Lawfull Sports to be Used∗ in response to the Puritan practice of barring their fellow citizens from lawful recreations on Sundays.
1619 James' wife, Queen Anne, dies.
1625 King James VI & I dies and his adult son accedes to the throne as Charles I. On a cold day in January 1649, King Charles I will be executed by order of Puritan Oliver Cromwell and other insurgents after their takeover of the British government.
Quotes from the KJV preface
For when Your Highness had once out of deep judgment apprehended how convenient it was, that out of the Original Sacred Tongues, together with comparing of the labours, both in our own, and other foreign Languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact Translation of the holy Scriptures into the English Tongue; Your Majesty did never desist to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require
"Neither did we think much to consult the Translators or Commentators, Chaldee, Hebrew, Syrian, Greek, or Latin, no nor the Spanish, French, Italian, or Dutch; neither did we disdain to revise that which we had done, and to bring back to the anvil that which we had hammered; but having and using as great helps as were needful, and fearing no reproach for slowness, nor coveting praise for expedition, we have at length, through the good hand of the Lord upon us, brought the work to that pass that you see."
But that we should express the same notion in the same particular word; as, for example, if we translate the Hebrew or Greek word once by purpose, never to call it intent; if one where journeying, never travelling; if one where think, never suppose; if one where pain, never ache; if one where joy, never gladness, etc.;
The title page of the KJV says “The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments : translated out of the original tongues, and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His Majesty's special command : appointed to be read in churches”
King James was bisexual.
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/king-james.html
'Queen James'
One area of the life of King James that for many years remained clouded in controversy was allegations that James was homosexual. As James did father several children by Anne of Denmark, it is actually more accurate to say that he was allegedly a bi-sexual. While his close relationships with a number of men were noted, earlier historians questioned their sexual nature, however, few modern historians cast any doubt on the King's bisexuality and the fact that his sexuality and choice of male partners both as King of Scotland then later in London as King of England were the subject of gossip from the city taverns to the Privy Council. His relationship as a teenager with fellow teenager Esmé Stuart, Earl of Lennox was criticized by Scottish Church leaders, who were part of a conspiracy to keep the young King and the young French courtier apart, as the relationship was improper to say the least. Lennox, facing threats of death, was forced to leave Scotland.
In the 1580s, King James openly kissed Francis Stewart Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. Contemporary sources clearly hinted their relationship was a sexual one. When James inherited the English throne from Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, it was openly joked of the new English monarch in London that “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen!” If there is still any doubt, it should be noted that George Villiers, also held an intimate relationship with King James, about which King James himself was quite open. King James called Villiers his “wife” and called himself Villiers' “husband”! King James died in 1625 of gout and senility. He is buried in the Henry VII chapel in Westminster Abbey, with one of his favorite male suitors on his right, and another on his left.
But he had nothing to do with its translation:
King James had nothing to do with the translating the Bible, he merely authorized it and provided financing for its production. Beyond that, however, James wrote several books himself.
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/king-james.html
'Queen James'
One area of the life of King James that for many years remained clouded in controversy was allegations that James was homosexual. As James did father several children by Anne of Denmark, it is actually more accurate to say that he was allegedly a bi-sexual. While his close relationships with a number of men were noted, earlier historians questioned their sexual nature, however, few modern historians cast any doubt on the King's bisexuality and the fact that his sexuality and choice of male partners both as King of Scotland then later in London as King of England were the subject of gossip from the city taverns to the Privy Council. His relationship as a teenager with fellow teenager Esmé Stuart, Earl of Lennox was criticized by Scottish Church leaders, who were part of a conspiracy to keep the young King and the young French courtier apart, as the relationship was improper to say the least. Lennox, facing threats of death, was forced to leave Scotland.
In the 1580s, King James openly kissed Francis Stewart Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell. Contemporary sources clearly hinted their relationship was a sexual one. When James inherited the English throne from Queen Elizabeth I in 1603, it was openly joked of the new English monarch in London that “Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen!” If there is still any doubt, it should be noted that George Villiers, also held an intimate relationship with King James, about which King James himself was quite open. King James called Villiers his “wife” and called himself Villiers' “husband”! King James died in 1625 of gout and senility. He is buried in the Henry VII chapel in Westminster Abbey, with one of his favorite male suitors on his right, and another on his left.
But he had nothing to do with its translation:
King James had nothing to do with the translating the Bible, he merely authorized it and provided financing for its production. Beyond that, however, James wrote several books himself.
Translation
Like Tyndale's translation and the Geneva Bible, the Authorized Version was translated primarily from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts, although with secondary reference both to the Latin Vulgate, and to more recent scholarly Latin versions; two books of the Apocrypha were translated from a Latin source. Following the example of the Geneva Bible, words implied but not actually in the original source were distinguished by being printed in distinct type (albeit inconsistently), but otherwise the translators explicitly rejected word-for-word equivalence.[76] F.F Bruce gives an example from Romans Chapter 5:[77]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version
Like Tyndale's translation and the Geneva Bible, the Authorized Version was translated primarily from Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts, although with secondary reference both to the Latin Vulgate, and to more recent scholarly Latin versions; two books of the Apocrypha were translated from a Latin source. Following the example of the Geneva Bible, words implied but not actually in the original source were distinguished by being printed in distinct type (albeit inconsistently), but otherwise the translators explicitly rejected word-for-word equivalence.[76] F.F Bruce gives an example from Romans Chapter 5:[77]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version
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Lets take the hands of time back 100 years ago. You see a Bible in the Bookstore and there is only one. It says HOLY BIBLE. It doesn't even say KJV; that is the only Bible that everyone uses and there is no question as to whether or not it is God's Word. Those who thought so were probably labeled a heretic.
I'll retract my statements that King James had a part in the translation of the KJV, but I will still say that the KJV is NOT the most accurate, and I still say he was homosexual
Although, political correctness would say bisexual...but bisexual is still part homosexual.
Although, political correctness would say bisexual...but bisexual is still part homosexual.
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I encourage you to purchase the Literal Transaltion of the bible, the LITV by Sovereign Grace Publishers written by JP Green Sr.
There is nothing like getting to the original language, and studying the bible in its original language, and the LITV is a great midway point to that goal.
I encourage all my students to learn Hebrew so they can read the bible in its original language, at least read the first five books of the bible in its original language and look for Messiah in every verse.
If you're reading the bible for the first time through I suggest:
http://www.amazon.com/One-Year-Chronological-Bible-NIV/dp/084235090X
from the description:
A fascinating way to read through the Bible! Now you can gain a better understanding of the order of biblical events and the historical context in which they unfolded. The One Year Chronological Bible arranges the entire Bible text--books, chapters, and even verses--in the order the events actually happened.
In The One Year Chronological Bible, prophetic books are interwoven with the historical accounts they accompanied. Psalms follow the events they were written about. Proverbs are placed in the time frame in which they were compiled. The life of Christ is woven into one moving story. And Paul's letters to the young churches in the first century are integrated into the book of Acts.
My notes:
It's great if you want an easy read. The NIV One Year Chronological Bible arranges the text into a chronological presentation of scriptures as they occured (you will have pslams mixed in with Genesis, the Prophets, the Writings, and the gospels as one book presentation, and the letters interspersed with Acts). It will give you a good feel for the totality and unity of the scripture, and how the believers grew in their faith and taught others the same. By reading this version of the English bible, I was able to pick up on the disciples' most talked about request and focus: daily prayer. Prayer and its importance for life, is what I discovered is talked about the most than any other subject. I would have not seen this without understanding the entire presentation of the bible in its chronological and historical context.
There is nothing like getting to the original language, and studying the bible in its original language, and the LITV is a great midway point to that goal.
I encourage all my students to learn Hebrew so they can read the bible in its original language, at least read the first five books of the bible in its original language and look for Messiah in every verse.
If you're reading the bible for the first time through I suggest:
http://www.amazon.com/One-Year-Chronological-Bible-NIV/dp/084235090X
from the description:
A fascinating way to read through the Bible! Now you can gain a better understanding of the order of biblical events and the historical context in which they unfolded. The One Year Chronological Bible arranges the entire Bible text--books, chapters, and even verses--in the order the events actually happened.
In The One Year Chronological Bible, prophetic books are interwoven with the historical accounts they accompanied. Psalms follow the events they were written about. Proverbs are placed in the time frame in which they were compiled. The life of Christ is woven into one moving story. And Paul's letters to the young churches in the first century are integrated into the book of Acts.
My notes:
It's great if you want an easy read. The NIV One Year Chronological Bible arranges the text into a chronological presentation of scriptures as they occured (you will have pslams mixed in with Genesis, the Prophets, the Writings, and the gospels as one book presentation, and the letters interspersed with Acts). It will give you a good feel for the totality and unity of the scripture, and how the believers grew in their faith and taught others the same. By reading this version of the English bible, I was able to pick up on the disciples' most talked about request and focus: daily prayer. Prayer and its importance for life, is what I discovered is talked about the most than any other subject. I would have not seen this without understanding the entire presentation of the bible in its chronological and historical context.
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I agree the KJV is not the most accurate. But it's hard to judge accuracy because there's no perfect and undisputed standard by which to judge or compare it. Even KJV bible societies recognise this fact that the KJV has errors. That's why they made the MKJV and /or NKJV to correct these mistakes. I love my MKJV..it's just like the KJV but it has all the words 'spirit' capitalised in the right places as it should be, and is easy to read.. I'm not left confused over what's talking about.