How do preachers or teachers explain this?

[Godsgood]

Does the Scripture say that only God the Father said those words recorded in Isaiah 43?

What about Creation? We read in Genesis 1 that the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and in John 1:1-3 we see that Jesus Christ was there at Creation too:

(Joh 1:1-3 NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

We can see from John 1:14 that "the Word" is Jesus Christ:

(Joh 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

What about Creation? We read in Genesis 1 that the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and in John 1:1-3 we see that Jesus Christ was there at Creation too:

What do you mean on this. Please elaborate more?



(Joh 1:1-3 NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
We can see from John 1:14 that "the Word" is Jesus Christ:
(Joh 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

This will only become the truth when God reveals the truth about it. But as long as it comes only from human understanding, the truth of why God said this will not be revealed.

I will repeat what I have already shared.
In physical life, everything should come from human understanding.
However, in spiritual life, everything must come from God.

The things you mentioned refer to spiritual matters.
Therefore, they must come from God and not from human beings.

 

[Godsgood]

Does the Scripture say that only God the Father said those words recorded in Isaiah 43?

What about Creation? We read in Genesis 1 that the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and in John 1:1-3 we see that Jesus Christ was there at Creation too:

(Joh 1:1-3 NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

We can see from John 1:14 that "the Word" is Jesus Christ:

(Joh 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Does the Scripture say that only God the Father said those words recorded in Isaiah 43?

There is a word in Isaiah 43:11 that was not spoken only by God the Father.

 

[Roger316]

Could you please complete your question?
And please specify what you are referring to.

I don't want to embarrass you.

 

[DavidLamb]

Was it revealed through His word, the Bible, or are you claiming special revelation apart from the Bible? In the Bible we read:





If it were true that through studying the written Scriptures people could already know God’s revelation of the truth in His words, then wouldn’t the different groups within Christianity have already come to the same understanding and recognition of the Lord Jesus?

But with your idea of individual Christians claiming special revelations. there is no standard by which anybody can say what doctrine is correct, and what is wrong. When God's word is the final authority, then although because none of us has perfect understanding there are genuine differences between Christians about some aspects of Christian belief, there should at least be a common authority, the Bible.

Is this something you read in Scripture?
In the beginning, God was alone, and He saw that it was not good for Him to be alone. Therefore, He established His kingdom, which would be made up of souls who would believe in Him. This is how He has sought, throughout every generation, those who are worthy to be with Him in eternal life. They are the ones who humble themselves before Him, and that is why God Himself reveals Himself to each one of them.

The Bible opens with the words, "In the beginning, God....." (Genesis 1:1) The Bible doesn't say that anything or anybody else existed in the beginning except God. The Bible does not tell us that God "saw that it was not good for Him to be alone." The Bible certainly does not say that God "has sought, throughout every generation, those who are worthy to be with Him in eternal life." Indeed, none of us is worthy of anything good from God. The Bible tells us:

(Rom 3:23 NKJV) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

If we were worth of eternal life, why did Jesus Christ have to be crucified?

Therefore, while they are still here on earth, they already know the one true God. They alone can be with Him in the kingdom He is establishing. Those who do not know the one true God, even though they use the word of God, will not be worthy to be with God in eternal life. That is why He commanded His chosen ones to carry out the testing mentioned in 1 John 4:2–3 and Revelation 4:2.

Nobody, as I said above, is worthy to be with God in eternal life. God graciously gives eternal life to those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is because of His worthiness, not ours, that anybody has eternal life.

That is why I am looking for them here, as an act of obedience to God's command through the prescribed tests He instructed.

 

[DavidLamb]

What about Creation? We read in Genesis 1 that the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and in John 1:1-3 we see that Jesus Christ was there at Creation too:

What do you mean on this. Please elaborate more?

I meant that at Creation, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (one God in three "Persons") were involved and present.

(Joh 1:1-3 NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
We can see from John 1:14 that "the Word" is Jesus Christ:
(Joh 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

This will only become the truth when God reveals the truth about it. But as long as it comes only from human understanding, the truth of why God said this will not be revealed.

Those verses, like the rest of God's word, are truth. They don't just become truth. Jesus Himself said to His heavenly Father:

(Joh 17:17 NKJV) Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

He didn't say, "Your word will become truth."

I will repeat what I have already shared.
In physical life, everything should come from human understanding.
However, in spiritual life, everything must come from God.

The things you mentioned refer to spiritual matters.
Therefore, they must come from God and not from human beings.

Yes, our understanding of God's word must come from God.

 

[Dino246]

I will repeat what I have already shared.
In physical life, everything should come from human understanding.
However, in spiritual life, everything must come from God.

God provides knowledge and wisdom in the physical realm as well as the spiritual realm. He is the source of all true knowledge.

 

[frederickdoc]

God provides knowledge and wisdom in the physical realm as well as the spiritual realm. He is the source of all true knowledge.

The tree fruit thats the real answer
Not of man .

 

[Dino246]

The tree fruit thats the real answer
Not of man .

Huh?

 

[frederickdoc]

Huh?

Man Before The tree then eyes open is one a start . could spend the month back and forth on that one just went to the source enjoy

 

[rewriter]

“Should”?

What is important is that Jesus has no earthly father; His conception in Mary was a miracle.

In light of that, Joseph’s status fades to irrelevance… just as Scripture presents.

True, one more in a recorded number of virgin births that occurred in the ancient world, just as there were a number of people who were resurrected. According to the records, such miracles were widely known, too bad they no longer occur.

 

[Godsgood]

I don't want to embarrass you.

I don't see anything wrong with you completing your question and making your point clear.
If what you mean is the truth, then even if it embarrasses me, that's okay. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Because when it comes to spiritual matters, no one is exempt from being corrected

 

[Godsgood]

I meant that at Creation, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (one God in three "Persons") were involved and present.

Those verses, like the rest of God's word, are truth. They don't just become truth. Jesus Himself said to His heavenly Father:

(Joh 17:17 NKJV) Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

He didn't say, "Your word will become truth."


Yes, our understanding of God's word must come from God.

I meant that at Creation, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (one God in three "Persons") were involved and present.

What do you mean by they are involved. Please explain in details.

 

[Dino246]

Because when it comes to spiritual matters, no one is exempt from being corrected

Yet you continually exempt yourself.

 

[Leod7777]

JOHN 14:12
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

There are many who do not really know who Jesus Christ is. To be honest, He was the God of the old testament. He gave Moses the 10 commandments, He parted the Red Sea. And He created all in 6 days.

 

[DavidLamb]

I meant that at Creation, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (one God in three "Persons") were involved and present.

What do you mean by they are involved. Please explain in details.

I know only what God has revealed in His word, that at Creation, His Spirit was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and through Jesus Christ, everything was created (John 1:1-3).

 

[Godsgood]

There are many who do not really know who Jesus Christ is. To be honest, He was the God of the old testament. He gave Moses the 10 commandments, He parted the Red Sea. And He created all in 6 days.

As I understand with your explanation. Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham. Am I correct?

 

[Godsgood]

I know only what God has revealed in His word, that at Creation, His Spirit was hovering over the face of the waters (Genesis 1:2), and through Jesus Christ, everything was created (John 1:1-3).

I understand what you said this way: God the Father created everything for Jesus Christ. If I understood you correctly, my question is: Why?

 

[Godsgood]

I meant that at Creation, God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (one God in three "Persons") were involved and present.

Those verses, like the rest of God's word, are truth. They don't just become truth. Jesus Himself said to His heavenly Father:

(Joh 17:17 NKJV) Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

He didn't say, "Your word will become truth."


Yes, our understanding of God's word must come from God.

Yes, our understanding of God's word must come from God.

What would be your basis for saying that it comes from God? Different Christian groups make the same claim as well.

 

[DavidLamb]

I understand what you said this way: God the Father created everything for Jesus Christ. If I understood you correctly, my question is: Why?

No, I'm afraid you have misunderstood what I wrote. John 1:1-3 tells us that everything was created by Jesus Christ. Writing about Jesus Christ, Paul said:

(Col 1:16 NKJV) For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

That verse says that all things were created by Him, through Him and for Him.

 

[Godsgood]

But with your idea of individual Christians claiming special revelations. there is no standard by which anybody can say what doctrine is correct, and what is wrong. When God's word is the final authority, then although because none of us has perfect understanding there are genuine differences between Christians about some aspects of Christian belief, there should at least be a common authority, the Bible.

The Bible opens with the words, "In the beginning, God....." (Genesis 1:1) The Bible doesn't say that anything or anybody else existed in the beginning except God. The Bible does not tell us that God "saw that it was not good for Him to be alone." The Bible certainly does not say that God "has sought, throughout every generation, those who are worthy to be with Him in eternal life." Indeed, none of us is worthy of anything good from God. The Bible tells us:

(Rom 3:23 NKJV) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

If we were worth of eternal life, why did Jesus Christ have to be crucified?




Nobody, as I said above, is worthy to be with God in eternal life. God graciously gives eternal life to those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is because of His worthiness, not ours, that anybody has eternal life.

But with your idea of individual Christians claiming special revelations. there is no standard by which anybody can say what doctrine is correct, and what is wrong. When God's word is the final authority, then although because none of us has perfect understanding there are genuine differences between Christians about some aspects of Christian belief, there should at least be a common authority, the Bible.

God's chosen ones, because they were commanded to test people (1 John 4:2–3 and Revelation 4:2). Through this, those who are not from God are exposed. They are easy to recognize.


The Bible opens with the words, "In the beginning, God....." (Genesis 1:1) The Bible doesn't say that anything or anybody else existed in the beginning except God. The Bible does not tell us that God "saw that it was not good for Him to be alone." The Bible certainly does not say that God "has sought, throughout every generation, those who are worthy to be with Him in eternal life." Indeed, none of us is worthy of anything good from God. The Bible tells us:

It is really difficult for you to understand because you rely on the belief that God does not speak in parables. You especially depend on what is plainly written and what you can readily understand. As a result, you believe that God cannot reveal truths that are not already written in the Holy Scriptures.

If we were worth of eternal life, why did Jesus Christ have to be crucified?
Romans 3:10 says that no one is righteous, not even one. However, there are those who will be saved because they are counted as worthy. They are the ones who come to know the one true God, whose wickedness the Lord will forgive and whose sins He will remember no more.
JEREMIAH 31:34
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

It is easy to say that Jesus was crucified. But I tell you, you do not even know the Jesus who was crucified.

If I may ask you a question: Why did Jesus have to be crucified, and for what reason?