How Do You React When God Tells You Hard Things (or Allows Difficult Things to Happen?)

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Kainos

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One of the things that banned person said was that I had told her something I never had (she in fact had a long long list of lies, about me as well as others), and my post history clearly contradicts what she said. I really don't think they had any idea of what it is I am actually doing, or what is allowed with the images I collect, but that is still no reason for them to go on the way they do, and I seriously wonder what is wrong with some of these people.
Your accuser won't accuse you in accordance with truth or fact, he's just out to discourage you from augmenting spiritual heart-to-hearts and head-to-heads with your to the purpose art.

You have a distinctive way of emphasizing scripture quotes and verses, with relevancy and significance. And your designs are an illustration of the seat of your creativity and your faith. A symphony of colour, texture, and good news.

I'd want to throw cold water on your warm tones too if I was batting for the enemy. Don't let anyone deter you from doing what you do, for as long as you are led to do it.
 

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Thank you so much! I really appreciate that! It's not steady just so you know. I have my bad days and moments of fear and distrust. It's a lifelong endeavor to learn to trust the Lord and his promises. :giggle:
I think what made it easy for me when my grandmother passed is she is the one who told me to call out Jesus’s name when I was losing my mind. So when she passed, I knew she was going to a better place and I wasn’t affected by her death at all.
 

Magenta

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Your accuser won't accuse you in accordance with truth or fact, he's just out to discourage you
from augmenting spiritual heart-to-hearts and head-to-heads with your to the purpose art.

You have a distinctive way of emphasizing scripture quotes and verses, with relevancy and significance. And your
designs are an illustration of the seat of your creativity and your faith. A symphony of colour, texture, and good news.

I'd want to throw cold water on your warm tones too if I was batting for the enemy.
Don't let anyone deter you from doing what you do, for as long as you are led to do it.
Thank you for your very kind words! I am always on the lookout for some verse inspiration or collection of
verses to include on a panel... do you have any you would like to see? Generally speaking, it cannot be a lot.
I have had the opposite situation also, where one verse, if very short, was not enough text on a panel. LOL
 

Kainos

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Thank you for your very kind words! I am always on the lookout for some verse inspiration or collection of
verses to include on a panel... do you have any you would like to see? Generally speaking, it cannot be a lot.
I have had the opposite situation also, where one verse, if very short, was not enough text on a panel. LOL
Isaiah 11:6

A fitting verse for an evocative imagination.
 

Magenta

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Isaiah 11:6

A fitting verse for an evocative imagination.
Thank you! And I am quite surprised that I have not done that one yet! Also, I am curious, because I am seeing something new and wondering if others do too? The Logos software is now auto connecting to display any verse citation when you hover over the link. That means that when I hide the verse citation under a panel of mine, which I do by making the font white so it basically cannot be seen, the verse itself now turns into a link which can be seen! This just started happening today... The reason why I would add the verse citation is so that if anyone (including myself) looked at my post stream, they could see something as opposed to nothing, as images with no accompanying text just show up as a blank in the post stream, meaning, you can see a post was made but there is no info about the post itself beyond showing which thread and forum it is in, and date ETC. I am also having a terrible time staying connected on my laptop (at work), which is having a whole host of other problems due to storage issues. Ugh!!!
 

Magenta

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Hope all's good and hugs dear friend, wondering if you might like to post a thread, outlining/demonstrating your production of a panel occasionally? Seriously doubt i'm the only one who'd really enjoy such an activity session, similar thinking behind my hoping to get a film club going.


Know where you're coming from for sure dear friend, attracting a fair bit of malice/spite myself on one of my posts. Really love forums like this where people are in touch with their humanity too. Actually, i do prefer being a target to having that dark a mind or heart, hope you think similarly and don't let anyone grind you down, you're lovely.


Blessings and hugs for now Magenta, all that's good to you and your dear ones.
Thank you dear one, and hugs to you also! Due to your appreciation of what I have been doing with Grace, I designed two more with her, heh, now I do believe this is a first for me to use the same woman in so many panels consecutively. I have before used different parts of one image a number of times before, but not back to back, although I did late last year, after beginning to generate my own AI images, redo my welcome message using a couple of different images of Canadian actress Evangeline Lilly, against an array of various backgrounds paired up with her real face blended into my AI generated figures. Anywho, I have quite a few times over the years shown my process when there has been interest, and I could direct you to some of them if I find them (LOL), though right now I want to show you the newer Grace Kelly panels, at least one of them, anyways, because I am not yet happy with the second one, which is number four (I had a Proverbs verse waiting for me to use on a panel and I was itching to get it out there, but not yet, apparently). Even with this one I am about to show you, I worked on it for hours with a different background paired up with the face, and then decided, ugh, I need to change it, and so tried a few different ones, and settled on the one you will see. All this while my machine struggles to function at all because my C drive is failing and I have to constantly restart, and deal with crashes LOL. Plus I am at work and my laptop keeps disconnecting from the network even though my phone stays connected. But I need the laptop because that is where all the images are...

Starting with this AI woman I generated:



And then blending in this Grace Kelly face:



Working on it for the longest time with this AI generated background:



Which I decided to change near the end and chose this AI gen after trying a few others:



To end up with this final:

 
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Thank you dear one, and hugs to you also! Due to your appreciation of what I have been doing with Grace, I designed two more with her, heh, now I do believe this is a first for me to use the same woman in so many panels consecutively. I have before used different parts of one image a number of times before, but not back to back, although I did late last year, after beginning to generate my own AI images, redo my welcome message using a couple of different images of Canadian actress Evangeline Lilly, against an array of various backgrounds paired up with her real face blended into my AI generated figures. Anywho, I have quite a few times over the years shown my process when there has been interest, and I could direct you to some of them if I find them (LOL), though right now I want to show you the newer Grace Kelly panels, at least one of them, anyways, because I am not yet happy with the second one, which is number four (I had a Proverbs verse waiting for me to use on a panel and I was itching to get it out there, but not yet, apparently). Even with this one I am about to show you, I worked on it for hours with a different background paired up with the face, and then decided, ugh, I need to change it, and so tried a few different ones, and settled on the one you will see. All this while my machine struggles to function at all because my C drive is failing and I have to constantly restart, and deal with crashes LOL. Plus I am at work and my laptop keeps disconnecting from the network even though my phone stays connected. But I need the laptop because that is where all the images are...

Starting with this AI woman I generated:



And then blending in this Grace Kelly face:



Working on it for the longest time with this AI generated background:



Which I decided to change near the end and chose this AI gen after trying a few others:



To end up with this final:

Posted a reply to another panel of yours and saw another panel with an image based on her face. Your panels are gorgeous and i love you explaining the origins, it's really interesting and you have real creative talent.

Playing with my new toy, maiden voyage for this particular rig, only built it today! :giggle: Blessings and hugs wise, lovely friend, see you soon. :)
 

Magenta

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Isaiah 11:6

A fitting verse for an evocative imagination.

Isaiah 11:6 ~ The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the goat; the calf and young lion and fatling will be together, and a little child will lead them.
Thank you for the inspiration! I hope you and yours are well .:)

The man was AI gen, pretty sure by me, started out looking like this:



Looking for something to watch on Netflix, came across this actor
(Luke Roberts) in a series I have not watched, blended his face in:




The ai face was very cold to begin with, so I did very much correct it to warmer tones, but I think
Luke's face is still too red, which I cannot always tell in my program, as things look different on the
white boards than they do on the dark charcoal background of photoshop. Also I usually like to see
a face under a few different ambient conditions to get the best balance between all of them, as
any one image can look remarkably different in different lighting situations.


Must give a shout out to @TabinRivCA as she is always encouraging me to employ more male figures in my panels, and
I must thank you, Tabs, for your birthday wishes. I knew you would not forget with your dad's birthday being the same day!


I thought I posted this already. Haha. I must have gotten distracted...


Isaiah 11:6 ~ The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the goat; the calf and young lion and fatling will be together, and a little child will lead them.
I put a colour correction on the man... let's see how he looks now... still a bit on the red/magenta side...
 
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Isaiah 11:6 ~ The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the goat; the calf and young lion and fatling will be together, and a little child will lead them.
Thank you for the inspiration! I hope you and yours are well .:)

The man was AI gen, pretty sure by me, started out looking like this:



Looking for something to watch on Netflix, came across this actor
(Luke Roberts) in a series I have not watched, blended his face in:




The ai face was very cold to begin with, so I did very much correct it to warmer tones, but I think
Luke's face is still too red, which I cannot always tell in my program, as things look different on the
white boards than they do on the dark charcoal background of photoshop. Also I usually like to see
a face under a few different ambient conditions to get the best balance between all of them, as
any one image can look remarkably different in different lighting situations.


Must give a shout out to @TabinRivCA as she is always encouraging me to employ more male figures in my panels, and
I must thank you, Tabs, for your birthday wishes. I knew you would not forget with your dad's birthday being the same day!


I thought I posted this already. Haha. I must have gotten distracted...


Isaiah 11:6 ~ The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the goat; the calf and young lion and fatling will be together, and a little child will lead them.
I put a colour correction on the man... let's see how he looks now... still a bit on the red/magenta side...
That is fabulous precious friend, what a recognisable but pretty major transformation. Also thinking he'd have made a more attractive/relatable Rhett Butler than Clark Gable.

Really will sort some stuff out now, blessings and hugs for now dear friend. :)
 

G00WZ

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Hey Everyone,

Several years ago, I was praying one night, and believed God was telling me, "Changes are coming to your life." I was 99.9% sure it was Him because of the way the thought stayed on my mind.

I thought it meant that I was going to meet someone and get married.

Rather, later that year, someone I loved very much unexpectedly fell ill and died a few weeks later. I do believe, however, that even though this person never again woke up, they cold still hear, and so I spent all my spare time at the hospital trying not to waste God's grace in the chance to express how much I loved this person.

Their death indeed brought a ripple of changes, and as with any such situation, some were for the good, and others brought additional sorrows.

This past weekend, while I was chopping onions and trying not to let the sting burn my eyes, I believe God told me, "I am going to allow things in your life that are going to make you uncomfortable." Once again, I'm 99.9% sure it was Him, because of how the thought has lingered on my mind. I also believe He is telling me that whatever happens, it is because He wants me to grow through it.

Naturally, my first thought was, "Who is going to die this time?" But of course, God might have completely different things in mind.

I can admit to feeling a bit uneasy.

I know some would say it's because I have weak faith, or not enough faith, or that it's from the devil.

But I personally think this is something that everyone who accepts Jesus as their Savior also has to accept as a regular part of the Christian life. We're all told God has a wonderful plan for our life, and He indeed works out all things for the good of those who love Him. But I don't hear much said about when God tells us hard things, and that it's crucial to growing our personal relationship with Him.

After sharing all of this with my small group, a good friend mentioned Joseph's dreams in Egypt, and how God sometimes warns us of trouble so that we can prepare (saving throughout 7 years of plenty to get through 7 years of famine.)

During my Bible reading and discussion with friends, I've told God that I hope I'll learn the lessons He wants me to learn and won't fight Him like I have in the past. I try to look back at how other difficult things have turned out, the things I learned, and, despite the hardships, the good God worked out through them.

I remind myself constantly that He is in control and everything that happens is for His glory. But it's an imperfect walk, with many zigs and zags, because of course, I'm still human.

What about you?

* How do you react when God tells you hard things, or allows difficult things to happen? How often does God tell you a trial is coming vs. just letting it happen without warning?

* What is your immediate reaction? Prayer, praise, fear, anger, sharing with others, or closing up, etc? I believe God understands our entire range of motions and helps us through all of them, even (and sometimes especially) when they're not the best or most ideal.

* What have you learned from past times when God told you about tough things/allowed them to happen that helps you prepare for future hardships?

* What advice do you give to others who have heard difficult things from God and are going through them?


I'm looking forward to hearing how other Christians walk out their faith through the inevitable "growth spurts" God knows we need.
All bad news does is readys and sets a person up to recieve more bad news because like attracts like. Believe it or not but some people are so in tune with recieving bad news that that's all that they can recieve even when presented with the good.

Me personally i don't ready myself for bad news, when things happen they just happen, whatever, i'll float on like that song from modest mouse. If God is talking about a trial or tribulation i refuse to listen or even prepare for it because it's not for me. I can't truly say that i have a saviour when all i do is take every hit for myself.

Colossians 3:2 talks about setting your mind on things above so i don't waste time on the doom and gloom.
 

G00WZ

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Do you want to meet someone and get married is the real question.
 

Magenta

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All bad news does is readys and sets a person up to receive more bad news because like attracts like.
Believe it or not but some people are so in tune with receiving bad news that that's all that they can
recieve even when presented with the good.

Me personally i don't ready myself for bad news, when things happen they just happen, whatever,
i'll float on like that song from modest mouse. If God is talking about a trial or tribulation i refuse
to listen or even prepare for it because it's not for me. I can't truly say that i have a saviour when
all i do is take every hit for myself.

Colossians 3:2 talks about setting your mind on things above so i don't waste time on the doom and gloom.
Hello, Mr brother GOOWZ sir, lovely as always to see you, and glad that you are still gracing us with your presence. Looking at your
post stream, I see it goes back two years just on the first page. Heh. Your attendance is spotty but your outlook is stellar
.:)
 

G00WZ

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Hello, Mr brother GOOWZ sir, lovely as always to see you, and glad that you are still gracing us with your presence. Looking at your
post stream, I see it goes back two years just on the first page. Heh. Your attendance is spotty but your outlook is stellar
.:)
Grace to some but as nails on a chalk board to others lol, thanks and yeah i really haven't been on here much.
 

seoulsearch

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Do you want to meet someone and get married is the real question.
Back during the days of the events of the original post, I most certainly wanted to get married. In fact, one of the reasons I was so devastated was that the most respected leaders of the healing ministry at my church came and prayed for my loved one. I felt an energy in the air, almost like an electric current. I was sure this was God's presence and that He was going to heal my loved one, and they would live long enough to see me meet (and hopefully approve of) the right person, then attend my wedding.

But it was not meant to be, as they died a short time later.

These days, I'm not sure what I want in life anymore, and I suppose that's part of the lesson -- to learn about it being less about what I want and more about what God wants.

I've actually had 2 opportunities over the past 10 years or so to get married (and the crowd gasps) :LOL:, but didn't feel at the time that it was where God was leading. Whether that will change, I don't know.


Me personally i don't ready myself for bad news, when things happen they just happen, whatever, i'll float on like that song from modest mouse. If God is talking about a trial or tribulation i refuse to listen or even prepare for it because it's not for me. I can't truly say that i have a saviour when all i do is take every hit for myself. Colossians 3:2 talks about setting your mind on things above so i don't waste time on the doom and gloom.
I truly admire your faith.

For myself, I try to balance my outlook between cautious optimism and the acceptance of reality. After all, when God told Ezekiel that He was going to "take away the delight of your eyes" (and Ezekiel's wife died that night,) Ezekiel couldn't just wish or positively think such a thing away.

The Bible clearly tells us there will be times of trials, trouble, and discipline, some of it brought on by God Himself, and I want to be realistic about that. I have met some Christians in my real life who seem to take on an almost New Age approach by believing they can ward off every bad thing through obedience and positive faith thinking.

2024 was clipping along, and then suddenly, it seemed like my Christian inner circle was hit by a literal Cancer Tornado. It resulted in disfiguring surgeries for some, death for others. Most troubling of all is that one of the deaths was the cornerstone of a young family, rather than the one who has lived a long full life, and has told God for years they are ready to go at anytime.

And I was told, "We aren't to question God's wisdom, we can only accept it and be thankful."

One of the things on my To Do list is to write the family who lost their bedrock and check up to see how they're doing.

In the Lutheran church where I was raised which does not believe in Once Saved Always Saved, we were told that when God took someone young, "It might be a blessing because maybe God knew that person would later fall away." And so we were to see it as God's grace, and something to be thankful for.

I am praying about what to say to this family, because, knowing especially how much the mother of the person lost is grieving, I definitely don't feel that telling her to be thankful is the right thing to say at this time.
 

Lynx

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Back during the days of the events of the original post, I most certainly wanted to get married. In fact, one of the reasons I was so devastated was that the most respected leaders of the healing ministry at my church came and prayed for my loved one. I felt an energy in the air, almost like an electric current. I was sure this was God's presence and that He was going to heal my loved one, and they would live long enough to see me meet (and hopefully approve of) the right person, then attend my wedding.

But it was not meant to be, as they died a short time later.

These days, I'm not sure what I want in life anymore, and I suppose that's part of the lesson -- to learn about it being less about what I want and more about what God wants.

I've actually had 2 opportunities over the past 10 years or so to get married (and the crowd gasps) :LOL:, but didn't feel at the time that it was where God was leading. Whether that will change, I don't know.




I truly admire your faith.

For myself, I try to balance my outlook between cautious optimism and the acceptance of reality. After all, when God told Ezekiel that He was going to "take away the delight of your eyes" (and Ezekiel's wife died that night,) Ezekiel couldn't just wish or positively think such a thing away.

The Bible clearly tells us there will be times of trials, trouble, and discipline, some of it brought on by God Himself, and I want to be realistic about that. I have met some Christians in my real life who seem to take on an almost New Age approach by believing they can ward off every bad thing through obedience and positive faith thinking.

2024 was clipping along, and then suddenly, it seemed like my Christian inner circle was hit by a literal Cancer Tornado. It resulted in disfiguring surgeries for some, death for others. Most troubling of all is that one of the deaths was the cornerstone of a young family, rather than the one who has lived a long full life, and has told God for years they are ready to go at anytime.

And I was told, "We aren't to question God's wisdom, we can only accept it and be thankful."

One of the things on my To Do list is to write the family who lost their bedrock and check up to see how they're doing.

In the Lutheran church where I was raised which does not believe in Once Saved Always Saved, we were told that when God took someone young, "It might be a blessing because maybe God knew that person would later fall away." And so we were to see it as God's grace, and something to be thankful for.

I am praying about what to say to this family, because, knowing especially how much the mother of the person lost is grieving, I definitely don't feel that telling her to be thankful is the right thing to say at this time.
I dunno... Saying you should be thankful is definitely not the right thing to say, but it could be helpful to focus on. Like, focus on how much they enjoyed the presence of the deceased.

One thing I hope I never forget is the meeting when the family was planning Grandma's funeral. We weren't really happy that she was gone, but we had a lot of good memories from when she was here. We had the funeral director laughing out loud, and funeral directors are not really supposed to do that when you're talking about funeral plans for your recently deceased loved one. =^.^=

I figured out long ago that nothing lasts forever. If I try to hang on to the parts of life that I like, and if I get tore up about losing them, I'm never going to be happy. I decided it's best for me to enjoy what I have while I have it, and move on when it's gone. That includes everything from Grandma down to the tooth I had pulled last Thursday. I could be ticked about losing my teeth, but I'd rather dwell on how many good meals those teeth have chewed over my life.

So yeah, it would be rather rude to say "You should be grateful!" but you can talk about the person they lost and how much they enjoyed the deceased person's company. And it would probably help a lot better than commiserating.
 

seoulsearch

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I dunno... Saying you should be thankful is definitely not the right thing to say, but it could be helpful to focus on. Like, focus on how much they enjoyed the presence of the deceased.

One thing I hope I never forget is the meeting when the family was planning Grandma's funeral. We weren't really happy that she was gone, but we had a lot of good memories from when she was here. We had the funeral director laughing out loud, and funeral directors are not really supposed to do that when you're talking about funeral plans for your recently deceased loved one. =^.^=

I figured out long ago that nothing lasts forever. If I try to hang on to the parts of life that I like, and if I get tore up about losing them, I'm never going to be happy. I decided it's best for me to enjoy what I have while I have it, and move on when it's gone. That includes everything from Grandma down to the tooth I had pulled last Thursday. I could be ticked about losing my teeth, but I'd rather dwell on how many good meals those teeth have chewed over my life.

So yeah, it would be rather rude to say "You should be grateful!" but you can talk about the person they lost and how much they enjoyed the deceased person's company. And it would probably help a lot better than commiserating.
This is a fantastic outlook Lynx, thanks so much for sharing.

I will take certainly take your post into consideration.

The tricky part for me is that in this situation, I'll be writing to a mother who has lost her grown adult child. As we all know, for parents, it doesn't matter how old their children are -- a loving parent will always see their child, whether 5 months or 50 year, as their baby. In fact, in the death announcement, the mother noted that her adult child died at the very same hospital where they were born, which made it even more sorrowful and cut even deeper.

I don't really feel I can emphasize something like, "Be thankful for the time you had with them," because it only punctuates the fact that this person's child, while a grown adult, was taken from them "early," as no parent foresees having to bury their child at any age.

I appreciate the suggestions people are giving here though of how to look at difficult situations, and will include them when praying for guidance.
 

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I don't really feel I can emphasize something like, "Be thankful for the time you had with them," because it only punctuates the fact that this person's child, while a grown adult, was taken from them "early," as no parent foresees having to bury their child at any age.
Ooooh... No no no! That would sound rather heartless.

But if you know anything about the deceased you can talk about the good times. Of course YMMV depending on how well you knew the person who died.

It also depends on who you're talking to. For some people, dwelling on the good times will just make them think more about how much they have lost.

I was just making a suggestion about something you might say. You might use it or not, depending on what you know about the people you are talking to.
 

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After my father passed away, I was a mess. I was pouring my heart out to the Lord. I wasn't sure what to do. I felt like He was telling me, "Right now, it is enough for you to just be." And was this so true, I needed that time to grieve. I also felt like He was telling me that He will guide me to what I am to do next when the time is right (His timing). I keep being surprised as things in life unfold lately. Recently, a friend passed away. I just attended her funeral last weekend. She was my best friend's sister (they both called me sister). Last night, my best friend tells me that she is moving to Arizona. So, this means that before the year is over, the only person in my life who lives near me will be far away from me. I'm so thankful for the internet to keep in touch with loved ones!

As for the hard part of this: she asked me to move with her. While it would be nice to be there with her and for her, I do not feel that is where I'm supposed to be. Of course, I pray daily for guidance. I guess maybe I don't really have a good answer to this thread, it just sticks out to me as difficult things in life happen. Sometimes it seems like they happen often. I try to keep seeing the flowers and listening to the birds though. To answer the question: What is my immediate reaction? Draw close to the Lord. He always answers. As for the things He hasn't answered yet, it just isn't time yet.
 

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I usually will listen to pray.com, or ESV Bible audiobook on Psalms or listen to the entire New Testament, watch my church’s Sunday service, my church’s Wednesday night Bible study, a life.church sermon, a grace message/dr. Andrew Farley live stream, top Christian music playlist on Spotify, or read the Bible, usually starting with John, then reading from Romans, onward.