About a week ago, I read some excerpts from a JW who I think believed Jesus was once a man, or at least was born of the Father at one time, hence the title, Son. And therefore doesn't believe that Jesus always existed.
When we think of a mother or father we tend to think of them as a parent or creators of life, and when we think of a son or daughter, we tend to think of them as an offspring or child, with a beginning of life. And in the natural, the word child also suggests, a beginning of life or a starting point of their existence from the parent. So naturally, some may think Jesus had a beginning of life like all natural living things.
I think differently.
What about Jesus' size? Is He only as big as a man?
I think not.
Here are some reasons why I think Jesus is as big and old as the Father.
1Ki8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth?behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee;how much less this house that I have builded?
Jer23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him?saith the LORD. Donot I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
And why do I think this applies to Jesus?
Well, one reason is because He created all things in existence, and He did so by His Spirit.
Yes, Jesus is the architect, but Where His Spirit is, there He is also.
Also, Jesus said,
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
The question we should ask next then is, how big is the Father?
When Jesus said the Father was greater than Himself, He didn't mean in size and strength or power, but in position. Like the parent is over their child.
Just because Jesus became a human being, having the same physical features and stature comparable to all men, doesn't mean that that is His actual size.
Where ever the Word of the Father is, there is Jesus. Which is how God the Father created all things through Jesus. If all things consist and are upheld through the Word of God, then Jesus has to be there upholding and causing all things to consist, even if it is His Spirit.
As for how old Jesus is, I have some questions I think should be pondered before one speculates on conjecture.
How old is the Spirit of God? That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the Word of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the truth? Thatis how old Jesus is.
How old is the light of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the knowledge, wisdom, andunderstanding of God? That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the Heart of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the fullness of God. That is how old Jesus is.
So when God the Father'sWord, Spirit, life, light, truth, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, flesh,Heart, and fullness came into being, just to list a few, so did Jesus.
Psa41:13 Blessed bethe LORD God of Israel fromeverlasting,and to everlasting. Amen, and Amen.
Psa90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formedthe earth and the world, even fromeverlastingto everlasting, thou artGod.
Psa93:2 Thy throne isestablished of old: thouartfrom everlasting.
Psa106:48 Blessed bethe LORD God of Israel fromeverlastingto everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.
Pro8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of wittyinventions.
Pro8:13 The fear of the LORD isto hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the frowardmouth, do I hate.
Pro8:14 Counsel ismine, and sound wisdom: I amunderstanding; I have strength.
Pro8:22TheLORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,before his works of old.
Pro8:23Iwas set upfromeverlasting, from the beginning,or ever the earth was.
Isa63:16 Doubtless thou artour father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledgeus not: thou, O LORD, artour father, our redeemer; thyname isfrom everlasting.
Mic5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, thoughthou be little among the thousands of Judah, yetout of thee shallhe come forthunto me thatisto be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth havebeenfrom of old, fromeverlasting.
Hab1:12Artthou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One?we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and,O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
[The title, "Holy One", is given to none other than Jesus Christ Himself.]
Psa103:17Butthe mercy of the LORD isfromeverlastingto everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness untochildren's children;
Isa43:10 Ye aremy witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: thatye may know and believe me, and understand that I amhe: beforeme there was no God formed,neither shall there be after me.
Isa43:11 I, evenI, amthe LORD; and beside me thereisno saviour.
When we think of a mother or father we tend to think of them as a parent or creators of life, and when we think of a son or daughter, we tend to think of them as an offspring or child, with a beginning of life. And in the natural, the word child also suggests, a beginning of life or a starting point of their existence from the parent. So naturally, some may think Jesus had a beginning of life like all natural living things.
I think differently.
What about Jesus' size? Is He only as big as a man?
I think not.
Here are some reasons why I think Jesus is as big and old as the Father.
1Ki8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth?behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee;how much less this house that I have builded?
Jer23:24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him?saith the LORD. Donot I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
And why do I think this applies to Jesus?
Well, one reason is because He created all things in existence, and He did so by His Spirit.
Yes, Jesus is the architect, but Where His Spirit is, there He is also.
Also, Jesus said,
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
The question we should ask next then is, how big is the Father?
When Jesus said the Father was greater than Himself, He didn't mean in size and strength or power, but in position. Like the parent is over their child.
Just because Jesus became a human being, having the same physical features and stature comparable to all men, doesn't mean that that is His actual size.
Where ever the Word of the Father is, there is Jesus. Which is how God the Father created all things through Jesus. If all things consist and are upheld through the Word of God, then Jesus has to be there upholding and causing all things to consist, even if it is His Spirit.
As for how old Jesus is, I have some questions I think should be pondered before one speculates on conjecture.
How old is the Spirit of God? That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the Word of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the truth? Thatis how old Jesus is.
How old is the light of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the knowledge, wisdom, andunderstanding of God? That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the Heart of God?That is how old Jesus is.
How old is the fullness of God. That is how old Jesus is.
So when God the Father'sWord, Spirit, life, light, truth, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, flesh,Heart, and fullness came into being, just to list a few, so did Jesus.
Psa41:13 Blessed bethe LORD God of Israel fromeverlasting,and to everlasting. Amen, and Amen.
Psa90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formedthe earth and the world, even fromeverlastingto everlasting, thou artGod.
Psa93:2 Thy throne isestablished of old: thouartfrom everlasting.
Psa106:48 Blessed bethe LORD God of Israel fromeverlastingto everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.
Pro8:12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of wittyinventions.
Pro8:13 The fear of the LORD isto hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the frowardmouth, do I hate.
Pro8:14 Counsel ismine, and sound wisdom: I amunderstanding; I have strength.
Pro8:22TheLORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,before his works of old.
Pro8:23Iwas set upfromeverlasting, from the beginning,or ever the earth was.
Isa63:16 Doubtless thou artour father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledgeus not: thou, O LORD, artour father, our redeemer; thyname isfrom everlasting.
Mic5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, thoughthou be little among the thousands of Judah, yetout of thee shallhe come forthunto me thatisto be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth havebeenfrom of old, fromeverlasting.
Hab1:12Artthou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One?we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and,O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction.
[The title, "Holy One", is given to none other than Jesus Christ Himself.]
Psa103:17Butthe mercy of the LORD isfromeverlastingto everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness untochildren's children;
Isa43:10 Ye aremy witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: thatye may know and believe me, and understand that I amhe: beforeme there was no God formed,neither shall there be after me.
Isa43:11 I, evenI, amthe LORD; and beside me thereisno saviour.