Well, we all have our opinion of what Jesus was feeling in the garden, but who do we actually think we are even trying to imagine it? I think He was broken. Anxious? Not so much.
How to deal with self doubt about your faith?
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Well, we all have our opinion of what Jesus was feeling in the garden, but who do we actually think we are even trying to imagine it? I think He was broken. Anxious? Not so much.
My impression is that Bill really wants to hear that he needs to STOP being anxious, not being coddled in his so-called "disorder".
Exodus 22:2–3 (ESV)
2 If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, 3 but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
In the case of unable to see an intruder and in the case of the person having deadly force, there is no problem defending your family.
Jesus also told the disciples to buy swords for protection.
New International Version
I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord.
New Living Translation
I want you to be free from the concerns of this life. An unmarried man can spend his time doing the Lord’s work and thinking how to please him.
English Standard Version
I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord.
Berean Study Bible
I want you to be free from concern. The unmarried man is concerned about the work of the Lord, how he can please the Lord.
Berean Literal Bible
And I desire you to be without concern. The unmarried man cares for the things of the Lord, how he should please the Lord;
King James Bible
But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
New King James Version
But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord.
New American Standard Bible
But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
NASB 1995
But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
NASB 1977
But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
Amplified Bible
But I want you to be free from concern. The unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
Christian Standard Bible
I want you to be without concerns. The unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
I want you to be without concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord.
American Standard Version
But I would have you to be free from cares. He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Because of this, I want you to be without care, for whoever does not have a wife thinks upon what is of his Lord and how he may please his Lord.
Contemporary English Version
I want all of you to be free from worry. An unmarried man worries about how to please the Lord.
Douay-Rheims Bible
But I would have you to be without solicitude. He that is without a wife, is solicitous for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please God.
English Revised Version
But I would have you to be free from cares. He that is unmarried is careful for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
Good News Translation
I would like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
So I don't want you to have any concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, [that is,] about how he can please the Lord.
International Standard Version
I want you to be free from concerns. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, that is, about how he can please the Lord.
Literal Standard Version
And I wish you to be without anxiety; the unmarried is anxious for the things of the LORD, how he will please the LORD;
NET Bible
And I want you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord.
New Heart English Bible
But I desire to have you to be free from cares. He who is unmarried is concerned for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
Weymouth New Testament
And I would have you free from worldly anxiety. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's business--how he shall please the Lord;
World English Bible
But I desire to have you to be free from cares. He who is unmarried is concerned for the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord;
Young's Literal Translation
And I wish you to be without anxiety; the unmarried is anxious for the things of the Lord, how he shall please the Lord;
Anxiety and caring about the things of the Lord are two different things in my view.
believing in God seems so “enough” right? Why believe in this guy “jesus” or what does that even do for us and how do we know we believe it?
You dont need to believe IN JESUS, you need to believe that his existance was real and it was for the purpose of atoning for our wonderful record of sins as a whole.
You need to believe that prior to “Jesus”
Pleasing God was done from a legal perspective which was difficult and a bar set to high.
You need to believe that this “jesus” fellow was the “new” method set forth by god — new way for him to devinely throw the towel to humanity .
Jesus manages/medians the “elect” via his spirit, once he is in ownership of you there is no longer death for the sins you committed or will commit…only discipline.
When you belong to jesus and his spirit is infused with yours, God goes easy on you, your judgement to sin ratio is heavily altered , your final salvation is granted…
All this is done because God agrees and plans that by giving him to the tutoring of his son… he will make a righteous one out of you and your salvation is granted via election a.k.a Jesus ivy league school….
In this school there is no failure, with this teacher there is no chance that you wont pass…. Its impossible for a human to not walk as directed by such power…
And this walk is done in a loving, take it easy on you form… and by the time he is done with you — you will be from the heart and not from following the law — be A stand up person worthy of gods love.
Jesus is the tutor, the one who guarantees you WILL WALK RIGHT…. You WILL make it… its life made easy.
All for the simple price of sacrificing your naughty desires through trials and perseverance
When the dark side of the heavenly realms attacks you via temptation of bad things… Jesus is there to intercede and increase your spiritual fortitude…
Before jesus it was just human with no heavy duty backup team vs really powerful forces that wreck havoc in a humans mind.
This dudes spirit is in you working overtime combatting and justifying your every work to his father… like a savior — your very own co-signer of life
You dont need to believe IN JESUS, you need to believe that his existance was real and it was for the purpose of atoning for our wonderful record of sins as a whole.
You need to believe that prior to “Jesus”
Pleasing God was done from a legal perspective which was difficult and a bar set to high.
You need to believe that this “jesus” fellow was the “new” method set forth by god — new way for him to devinely throw the towel to humanity .
Jesus manages/medians the “elect” via his spirit, once he is in ownership of you there is no longer death for the sins you committed or will commit…only discipline.
When you belong to jesus and his spirit is infused with yours, God goes easy on you, your judgement to sin ratio is heavily altered , your final salvation is granted…
All this is done because God agrees and plans that by giving him to the tutoring of his son… he will make a righteous one out of you and your salvation is granted via election a.k.a Jesus ivy league school….
In this school there is no failure, with this teacher there is no chance that you wont pass…. Its impossible for a human to not walk as directed by such power…
And this walk is done in a loving, take it easy on you form… and by the time he is done with you — you will be from the heart and not from following the law — be A stand up person worthy of gods love.
Jesus is the tutor, the one who guarantees you WILL WALK RIGHT…. You WILL make it… its life made easy.
All for the simple price of sacrificing your naughty desires through trials and perseverance
When the dark side of the heavenly realms attacks you via temptation of bad things… Jesus is there to intercede and increase your spiritual fortitude…
Before jesus it was just human with no heavy duty backup team vs really powerful forces that wreck havoc in a humans mind.
This dudes spirit is in you working overtime combatting and justifying your every work to his father… like a savior — your very own co-signer of life
actually anxiety and fear is a sin, in the Bible its also callled worry
and also...
the fearful, the cowardly and the unbelieving are not going to enter the Kingdom of God. It does say so in Revelation
so...if you dont think its a sin and never repented of it, then...I cant help you. I can pray for you but if you refuse to believe that He can set you free...cos you holding on (again!) then sorry...
and also...
the fearful, the cowardly and the unbelieving are not going to enter the Kingdom of God. It does say so in Revelation
so...if you dont think its a sin and never repented of it, then...I cant help you. I can pray for you but if you refuse to believe that He can set you free...cos you holding on (again!) then sorry...
Revelation 21:8 doesn’t apply to people who have received Jesus and have faith in Jesus. I have faith in Jesus and have received him.
um yes it does
you cant carry your sin into heaven
if you have received Jesus then he died for your sin but you are not even orepared to admit you were ever sinful
Look cherie
I am not posting this just for you..its a common problem..but you are going to have to cast out fear
cos this self doubt and faithlessness is getting you NOWHERE
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/is-worrying-a-sin.html
I am not posting this just for you..its a common problem..but you are going to have to cast out fear
cos this self doubt and faithlessness is getting you NOWHERE
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/is-worrying-a-sin.html
I have admitted to being a sinner and I have asked for Jesus to forgive my sins. I just disagree with the view of fear being sin. I view fear as an emotion.
Somewhere I listed four contexts of anxiety. Not all anxiety is a sin is my point.
When I hear a machine gun in my old neighborhood I run the other way and put a school between me and the shooting.
Revelation 21
Easy-to-Read Version
The New Jerusalem
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared. Now there was no sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God. It was prepared like a bride dressed for her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice from the throne. It said, “Now God’s home is with people. He will live with them. They will be his people. God himself will be with them and will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death, sadness, crying, or pain. All the old ways are gone.”
5 The one who was sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this, because these words are true and can be trusted.”
6 The one on the throne said to me, “It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega,[b] the Beginning and the End. I will give free water from the spring of the water of life to anyone who is thirsty. 7 All those who win the victory will receive all this. And I will be their God, and they will be my children. 8 But those who are cowards, those who refuse to believe, those who do terrible things, those who kill, those who sin sexually, those who do evil magic, those who worship idols, and those who tell lies—they will all have a place in the lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
9 One of the seven angels came to me. This was one of the angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues. The angel said, “Come with me. I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 The angel carried me away by the Spirit to a very large and high mountain. The angel showed me the holy city, Jerusalem. The city was coming down out of heaven from God.
11 The city was shining with the glory of God. It was shining bright like a very expensive jewel, like a jasper. It was clear as crystal. 12 The city had a large, high wall with twelve gates. There were twelve angels at the gates. On each gate was written the name of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three gates on the north, three gates on the south, and three gates on the west. 14 The walls of the city were built on twelve foundation stones. On the stones were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Easy-to-Read Version
The New Jerusalem
21 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared. Now there was no sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God. It was prepared like a bride dressed for her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice from the throne. It said, “Now God’s home is with people. He will live with them. They will be his people. God himself will be with them and will be their God. 4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death, sadness, crying, or pain. All the old ways are gone.”
5 The one who was sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this, because these words are true and can be trusted.”
6 The one on the throne said to me, “It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega,[b] the Beginning and the End. I will give free water from the spring of the water of life to anyone who is thirsty. 7 All those who win the victory will receive all this. And I will be their God, and they will be my children. 8 But those who are cowards, those who refuse to believe, those who do terrible things, those who kill, those who sin sexually, those who do evil magic, those who worship idols, and those who tell lies—they will all have a place in the lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
9 One of the seven angels came to me. This was one of the angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues. The angel said, “Come with me. I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 The angel carried me away by the Spirit to a very large and high mountain. The angel showed me the holy city, Jerusalem. The city was coming down out of heaven from God.
11 The city was shining with the glory of God. It was shining bright like a very expensive jewel, like a jasper. It was clear as crystal. 12 The city had a large, high wall with twelve gates. There were twelve angels at the gates. On each gate was written the name of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three gates on the north, three gates on the south, and three gates on the west. 14 The walls of the city were built on twelve foundation stones. On the stones were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Revelation 21:8 ►
Strong's Lexicon
But
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's Greek 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.
to [the] cowardly
δειλοῖς (deilois)
Adjective - Dative Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 1169: Cowardly, timid, fearful. From deos; timid, i.e. faithless.
Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.
English Standard Version
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars--their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
International Standard Version
But people who are cowardly, unfaithful, detestable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars will find themselves in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."
https://biblehub.com/strongs/revelation/21-8.htm
We can see that the cowards are simply those without faith in Jesus, unbelievers, faithless.
But
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's Greek 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.
to [the] cowardly
δειλοῖς (deilois)
Adjective - Dative Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 1169: Cowardly, timid, fearful. From deos; timid, i.e. faithless.
Parallel Strong's
Berean Study Bible
But to the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.
English Standard Version
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars--their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."
International Standard Version
But people who are cowardly, unfaithful, detestable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars will find themselves in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."
https://biblehub.com/strongs/revelation/21-8.htm
We can see that the cowards are simply those without faith in Jesus, unbelievers, faithless.