I AM THE BOMB (and Too Preoccupied To Ask God For His Opinion.) [Humility.]

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seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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Greetings, all my dear friends in the Singles Forum!

Something I have really been thinking about in my own life as I've read some of the recent threads and posts here is the way in which God has dealt with me (many, many times, with many more to come) regarding the topic of humbling myself before Him and before other people.

One of the most annoying things I seem to encounter on a repeated basis in my ongoing dating adventure are older men in the chat rooms who will tell me something such as, "You're a very attractive young woman--you need to stop looking at outer appearances and give a guy a chance and not judge him for just the way he looks." (As a lot of you know, it's often men as old as 74, no joke, telling me this, and I just want to shout, "No way, buddy, sorry, I don't care how superficial you think I am!")

However, a few days ago in a chat room, a man not too much older than me (less than ten years) gave me the same lecture (I will refer to him as X--no connection at all with his online name to ensure privacy)--and stated that I needed to stop choosing potential dates based on looks.

I was hopping mad!!! First of all, the guys who tell me this know NOTHING about me. They don't know that one of the biggest struggles in my Christian walk is my own insecurities, depression, and past destructive behaviors fueled by things we all encounter on a much too regular basis--rejection, something that makes us "different", etc., as well as the fact that these men are oblivious to the fact that I've NEVER had scores of guys after me (let alone ones who look like Abercrombie models, apparently) as they just seem to assume.

I can't stand it when someone assumes something about you, such as, that you're a superficial bimbo who would only date a guy based on looks (yes, looks do matter to us as human beings... but are they everything? Of course not!!!)

On the flipside of this, (and I'm sorry, as this post may become a bit lengthy), is that these men do not know what I've tried to do in my life in order to be ready to submit to the right husband God has for me.

I am obviously a person with a rather... how do we say this sweetly :D "colorful" personality... but one of the things God has put on my heart is that if and when I do marry someday, I may have every intention of submitting to my husband, but if I don't have some kind of practice in doing so, I will probably just rebel and cause all sorts of problems within my marriage.

One of the things I've done over the years, after much prayer, is make the decision to talk to my best male friend (who is in prison--we became friends while he was in prison so we've never had a friendship outside the prison walls) and my parents, even though I am a grown, fully independent adult (my parents also know my friend and have contact with him as well) about the major decisions in my life and to take their input as God's final say, even if I don't agree with what they tell me. This may seem like a trivial thing, but I do believe it's preparing me to be the kind of wife God would want me to be in the future.

Keeping this in mind, as you can imagine, I was furious when the above-mentioned X singled me out in front of everyone in that chat room and, in my mind, made me out to be an air-headed snob who was only interested in surface appearances.

As you can imagine, I went into the chat room the next day after telling God how upset I was, fully prepared to make every use of my blazing spiritual guns (Ha! As if! Only in my own worldly mind!) and completely unload on this guy.

I entered into chat... and promptly wrote on the general message screen, so that everyone could see (after all, he had embarrassed me in front of everyone else, I fully planned to return to favor), "X, do you remember yesterday when you told me not to just pick guys out based on looks alone?"

"Actually, Seoul..." he promptly replied, "what I was really trying to tell you is that some guys out there who are more insecure may be a bit nervous when approaching you..."

Oh.

D'OH!!!! *Slaps her forehead*

Could it POSSIBLY be that I had simply misinterpreted what he was trying to tell me? NO WAY, IT COULDN'T BE THAT!! WHY, THAT WOULD MEAN... *gulp* THAT I WAS... wrong.

And that, my friends, very quickly deflated all the air out of my "White Hot Revenge" hot air balloon.

What I had taken as a personal hit was simply a misunderstanding of what the other person was trying to say.

I repented right then and there and told God, thank goodness you put me in my place!!!


So... (and thanks for bearing with me through all this!) I'd like to know if anyone else out there has any stories of when God leveled your pride to the ground...

And, just out of curiosity, how did it make you feel? In this particular case, I know it was only by God's grace alone that I could be thankful He spared me from embarrassing myself any further!!

I would love to hear your thoughts, input, and experiences.

*Humbly bows in respect.*
 
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DABEARS85

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#2
I'm pretty young by almost everyone's standards, but I've been in a LOT of relationships before. Something I've noticed about myself is I have always gone for the looks first, and everything else second. I have always been attracted to girls that project that sense of entitlement because they are so pretty and used to attention, but I realized those girls are almost always emotional train wrecks. It took me a long time to figure out that I can't change what is inside of a person, so I need to judge based on that far more so than on looks. I think this is why I am actually attempting to find a good Christian girl for once in my life, instead of going for the beautiful girl that everyone thinks they can't have. Everyone may want what they cant have, but once you get it you realize it sure wasn't worth the effort.

On the flipside of all of that though, attraction based on looks is still essential no matter what someone says. I don't care how beautiful of a person you are on the inside. If two people are not physically attracted at least on some level, there is nothing there that will work. You need all of the above to really have a relationship that will work out, and that's why it's so hard to FIND a good partner. Some people are just incompatible no matter how strong you may be attracted to each other in other ways.

Anyway, you may not judge by looks, or you may, but there is nothing wrong with it. Everyone has different opinions on who or what is attractive, so there is nothing wrong with being yourself. I don't really understand why men would approach you and say to not judge based on looks. Have they not figured out by now that you can't change someone? Only God and themselves can change them.
 

Pheonix

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2007
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I'm in the same boat Soeul (yes I think I spelled that wrong). I've had exactly 1 female nocking at my door, and she was what you might call desperate. I've certainly never had sane or good looking women interested in me. Part of that is probably my fault. i've never been outgoing and I'm kind of an introvert and not exactly sociable. I hate crowds, not because I'm afraid of people or crowds. I've just never got much in common with other people. I'm too educated compared to the people I'm usually around.

Hear the humility just dripping off of me? :D

As for the rest of it, I'm not exactly physically appealing. I'm what some might call pudgy, I don't especially care if I'm a little dirty (I have a very dirty job), and I don't exactly look my age.

Maybe that's my problem. I sound older than I look..... Maybe the ladies are thrown by my age and thus don't trust that I'm telling the truth. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
 

Pheonix

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Jan 17, 2007
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A friend of mine calls the single live and loving it.....

"The Dark side"

Oooooohhhhhhhh! Scary.
 

Pheonix

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Jan 17, 2007
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In my experience women absolutly love the "nice" guy, they just don't want to settle for him. They want the hot, sexy, jock type who has the intellect of a coconut simply because he's exciting, spontaneous, and unpredictable. By the time they have had enough of coconut head and his bretrayal/stupidity, and decide they will settle for the nice guy he's often so embittered and angry he's no longer the nice guy.

Yes I'm the nice guy and sadly I feel myself slipping into bitter and angry. Kind of the male equivalent of the old spinster cat lady.

Sorry about the rant. Did I mention I'm not exactly sociable?????
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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In my experience women absolutly love the "nice" guy, they just don't want to settle for him. They want the hot, sexy, jock type who has the intellect of a coconut simply because he's exciting, spontaneous, and unpredictable. By the time they have had enough of coconut head and his bretrayal/stupidity, and decide they will settle for the nice guy he's often so embittered and angry he's no longer the nice guy.

Yes I'm the nice guy and sadly I feel myself slipping into bitter and angry. Kind of the male equivalent of the old spinster cat lady.

Sorry about the rant. Did I mention I'm not exactly sociable?????

intellect of a coconut!! hahaha... your posts are funny! I feel like i should start singing the gilligans island theme song!

I agree though, its the hot sexy type thats gonna do you in. Its the nice ones that arent so physically attractive you should stick with.
 
May 21, 2009
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I think its time for men to man up! Stop saying how shy they are and be men. Go up to the girl and say something. You won't die.
 
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DABEARS85

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In my experience women absolutly love the "nice" guy, they just don't want to settle for him. They want the hot, sexy, jock type who has the intellect of a coconut simply because he's exciting, spontaneous, and unpredictable. By the time they have had enough of coconut head and his bretrayal/stupidity, and decide they will settle for the nice guy he's often so embittered and angry he's no longer the nice guy.

Yes I'm the nice guy and sadly I feel myself slipping into bitter and angry. Kind of the male equivalent of the old spinster cat lady.

Sorry about the rant. Did I mention I'm not exactly sociable?????

Women just go for the alpha male type, not the beta male... which basically means what you described. They are the jerks not the nice guys, and so nice guys really finish last in that respect. Everyone wants what they can't have, not what is offered to them from the beginning. It's just a big psychological game in my mind. Once a girl get's old enough and has been ran through by all the alpha males who won't settle for her... then yeah she goes for the nice guy who gets to clean up her emotional mess on top of the fact that she probably has multiple kids by then. Just don't settle for that type. Find a nice girl.. you'll be far happier.
 
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Wug

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I think its time for men to man up! Stop saying how shy they are and be men. Go up to the girl and say something. You won't die.
She speaks truth. Ladies aren't attracted to jerks, they're attracted to confident men. Shallow ladies see arogance as confidence, thus they typically are attracted to arogant jerks.
Because it's difficult (yet not impossible) for a dude to be both humble and confident, it seems that the nice humble guys are the one's that never get the girl. But if you want to be as attractive as the jerks you see with the cool girlfriends, be more confident. It's not easy, it requires great courage, and you might have to think a little less about the possible outcomes. I thought that nice guys never got the girl until some of my really nice friends started getting girlfriends, and are now getting married (to, believe it or not, nice attractive females). Think of yourself as a Christian ninja. You know you're awesome, but you know without God you are nothing.
 
Jan 8, 2009
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In my experience women absolutly love the "nice" guy, they just don't want to settle for him. They want the hot, sexy, jock type who has the intellect of a coconut simply because he's exciting, spontaneous, and unpredictable. By the time they have had enough of coconut head and his bretrayal/stupidity, and decide they will settle for the nice guy he's often so embittered and angry he's no longer the nice guy.

I don't know how many women's magazines you read, but I read in one that this behaviour is due to their cycles. But yes i think it has more to do with the fact that jerks dont care about what other people think. They'll go for it and get the girl when most others wouldn't even try.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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#13
Greetings, all my dear friends in the Singles Forum!

Something I have really been thinking about in my own life as I've read some of the recent threads and posts here is the way in which God has dealt with me (many, many times, with many more to come) regarding the topic of humbling myself before Him and before other people.

One of the most annoying things I seem to encounter on a repeated basis in my ongoing dating adventure are older men in the chat rooms who will tell me something such as, "You're a very attractive young woman--you need to stop looking at outer appearances and give a guy a chance and not judge him for just the way he looks." (As a lot of you know, it's often men as old as 74, no joke, telling me this, and I just want to shout, "No way, buddy, sorry, I don't care how superficial you think I am!")

However, a few days ago in a chat room, a man not too much older than me (less than ten years) gave me the same lecture (I will refer to him as X--no connection at all with his online name to ensure privacy)--and stated that I needed to stop choosing potential dates based on looks.

I was hopping mad!!! First of all, the guys who tell me this know NOTHING about me. They don't know that one of the biggest struggles in my Christian walk is my own insecurities, depression, and past destructive behaviors fueled by things we all encounter on a much too regular basis--rejection, something that makes us "different", etc., as well as the fact that these men are oblivious to the fact that I've NEVER had scores of guys after me (let alone ones who look like Abercrombie models, apparently) as they just seem to assume.

I can't stand it when someone assumes something about you, such as, that you're a superficial bimbo who would only date a guy based on looks (yes, looks do matter to us as human beings... but are they everything? Of course not!!!)

On the flipside of this, (and I'm sorry, as this post may become a bit lengthy), is that these men do not know what I've tried to do in my life in order to be ready to submit to the right husband God has for me.

I am obviously a person with a rather... how do we say this sweetly :D "colorful" personality... but one of the things God has put on my heart is that if and when I do marry someday, I may have every intention of submitting to my husband, but if I don't have some kind of practice in doing so, I will probably just rebel and cause all sorts of problems within my marriage.

One of the things I've done over the years, after much prayer, is make the decision to talk to my best male friend (who is in prison--we became friends while he was in prison so we've never had a friendship outside the prison walls) and my parents, even though I am a grown, fully independent adult (my parents also know my friend and have contact with him as well) about the major decisions in my life and to take their input as God's final say, even if I don't agree with what they tell me. This may seem like a trivial thing, but I do believe it's preparing me to be the kind of wife God would want me to be in the future.

Keeping this in mind, as you can imagine, I was furious when the above-mentioned X singled me out in front of everyone in that chat room and, in my mind, made me out to be an air-headed snob who was only interested in surface appearances.

As you can imagine, I went into the chat room the next day after telling God how upset I was, fully prepared to make every use of my blazing spiritual guns (Ha! As if! Only in my own worldly mind!) and completely unload on this guy.

I entered into chat... and promptly wrote on the general message screen, so that everyone could see (after all, he had embarrassed me in front of everyone else, I fully planned to return to favor), "X, do you remember yesterday when you told me not to just pick guys out based on looks alone?"

"Actually, Seoul..." he promptly replied, "what I was really trying to tell you is that some guys out there who are more insecure may be a bit nervous when approaching you..."

Oh.

D'OH!!!! *Slaps her forehead*

Could it POSSIBLY be that I had simply misinterpreted what he was trying to tell me? NO WAY, IT COULDN'T BE THAT!! WHY, THAT WOULD MEAN... *gulp* THAT I WAS... wrong.

And that, my friends, very quickly deflated all the air out of my "White Hot Revenge" hot air balloon.

What I had taken as a personal hit was simply a misunderstanding of what the other person was trying to say.

I repented right then and there and told God, thank goodness you put me in my place!!!


So... (and thanks for bearing with me through all this!) I'd like to know if anyone else out there has any stories of when God leveled your pride to the ground...

And, just out of curiosity, how did it make you feel? In this particular case, I know it was only by God's grace alone that I could be thankful He spared me from embarrassing myself any further!!

I would love to hear your thoughts, input, and experiences.

*Humbly bows in respect.*

but....... but.......... what if i really am the bomb??:D
 

Pheonix

Senior Member
Jan 17, 2007
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#16
Men read the womens magazines??????????
Books for women too!!!!!

Its amazing how much you learn about yourself when reading about things from the other perspective.