I find it very sad when Christians put their opinions over scripture. Some examples.

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JohnB

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I find it very sad when Christians put their opinions over scripture. Some examples.


Since You, seemingly do the same thing about Your interpretation of "Sexual Issues and the Bible," are You [sad] about Yourself?
where did I put my opinion over the bible?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This is called "consequences" There are consequences to all of our actions. most churches harp on the sin of sex outside of marriage, almost nothing on the consequences. I've had friends who got a woman pregnant and married them. It did not end well. I've also had friends marry someone they should not have, and it did not end well. They did the purity thing and really did not know the person they married, and than it was too late.

Right, consequences, which don't always hit everyone in the same way. But at the very least if you have a heart that is soft to God's calling on your life, guilt is a consequence. I know a lot of people that wish they had waited till marriage.

But I think your concern is more of compatibility, especially with adult relationships. If I'm wrong correct me. And that is an issue to be dealt with in pre- marital counseling. Then it's a matter of if you love your spouse you do your best to meet their needs and they do the same. Therefore the match should be as close as possible.
 

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Right, consequences, which don't always hit everyone in the same way. But at the very least if you have a heart that is soft to God's calling on your life, guilt is a consequence. I know a lot of people that wish they had waited till marriage.

But I think your concern is more of compatibility, especially with adult relationships. If I'm wrong correct me. And that is an issue to be dealt with in pre- marital counseling. Then it's a matter of if you love your spouse you do your best to meet their needs and they do the same. Therefore the match should be as close as possible.
But if you do marry, you have not sinned [in doing so]; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned [in doing so]. Yet those [who marry] will have troubles (special challenges) in this life, and I am trying to spare you that. 1 Corinthians 7:28

OR
you can stay single "it is better to marry than to burn with passion. "...those are our choices.
 

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Yet those [who marry] will have troubles (special challenges) in this life, and I am trying to spare you that. 1 Corinthians 7:28 OR you can stay single "it is better to marry than to burn with passion. " 1 Corinthians 7:9 ...those are our choices.

it seems damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 

JohnB

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Let's grab our snorkels and flippers and go spearfishing for some mermaids then! :D
Yet those [who marry] will have troubles (special challenges) in this life, and I am trying to spare you that. 1 Corinthians 7:28 OR you can stay single "it is better to marry than to burn with passion. " 1 Corinthians 7:9 ...those are our choices.

it seems damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 

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Yet those [who marry] will have troubles (special challenges) in this life, and I am trying to spare you that. 1 Corinthians 7:28 OR you can stay single "it is better to marry than to burn with passion. " 1 Corinthians 7:9 ...those are our choices.

it seems damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I have peace about where I'm at. I feel that I am right where God would have me to be at this point in my life. Many old people find themselves alone with Jesus at the end. Even those who were once married and had lots of children.

When Jesus is all you have, He is all you need. He should be everyone's #1 guy. I will pray peace upon your weary soul, Bro. J :cool:(y)
 

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In some places, if a man sees a woman's ankle or hair, she is considered not pure.
Haha.. well I remember watching Johnny Carson and he had on a man that I think was in his 100's. Lol the man said they would go to town in hopes to see some woman's "ankle". That was all they got to see.
 

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Jonah, himself did not repent at all, but rather preached repentance.

COME ON MAN ___AS BIDEN world say --------your ignorance of Scripture knowledge of God and How He works is showing here big time with this statement -------


God wouldn't be having Jonah preach anything for Him if he hadn't Repented ------

Satan has you Bated on his Deception Hook ------

 

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COME ON MAN ___AS BIDEN world say --------your ignorance of Scripture knowledge of God and How He works is showing here big time with this statement -------


God wouldn't be having Jonah preach anything for Him if he hadn't Repented ------

Satan has you Bated on his Deception Hook ------

Show me in the book of Jonah where it states that he repented, specifically in his attitude towards what God wanted him to do. Nowhere to be found. That is not to say that Jonah did not repent of the sins of his life before taking on this mission.

The Holy Spirit has been guiding and comforting me in my life-long repentance process since 1969.

God has assigned tasks and appointed leaders, whether perceived to be good or bad. In my personal opinion, Jonah was worthy of the task that God appointed him to do.

Your accusations are uncalled for. Hopefully, you are better than that.
 

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Show me in the book of Jonah where it states that he repented, specifically in his attitude towards what God wanted him to do. Nowhere to be found. That is not to say that Jonah did not repent of the sins of his life before taking on this mission.

The Holy Spirit has been guiding and comforting me in my life-long repentance process since 1969.

God has assigned tasks and appointed leaders, whether perceived to be good or bad. In my personal opinion, Jonah was worthy of the task that God appointed him to do.

Your accusations are uncalled for. Hopefully, you are better than that.

Hey Tourist,
I would never accuse you of anything... I've always known you to be a good Christian gentleman.
But people do sometimes see things differently, and disagree.
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It seems to me, and historically it has seemed to many, that the entirety of Jonah Chapter 2 is a prayer of repentance and reconciliation.

Here are excerpts on Jonah from the great Matthew Henry, in his commentary:
"He had been fleeing from God, but now he sees the folly of it, and returns to him; by prayer he draws near to that God whom he had gone aside from, and engages his heart to approach him."
"He covenants with God that he will honor him in his devotions with the sacrifice of thanksgiving;"

(This is very clear repentance: to change direction, to stop going away from God and turn back to Him.)

Here is an excerpt from the great John Gill, in his commentary:
"for though he had sinned against the Lord, and had been sorely chastised by him, yet he did not take his lovingkindness from him, nor suffer his faithfulness to fail, or break his covenant with him; covenant interest and relation still continued; and Jonah had knowledge of it, and faith in it; and as this is an argument the Lord makes use of to engage backsliders to return unto him,"
(Here Gill is saying that God's mercy, in keeping Jonah alive during his punishment, was the particular grace which God used in bringing Jonah to repentance.)

Here is an excerpt from Albert Barnes, in his commentary:
"Jonah cried aloud to God out of the fish’s belly, out of the deep of the sea, out of the depths of disobedience; and his prayer reached to God, Who rescued him from the waves, brought him forth out of the vast creature, absolved him from the guilt. Let the sinner too cry aloud, whom, departing from God, the storm of desires overwhelmed, the malignant Enemy devoured, the waves of this present world sucked under!"
(Here Barnes explains the clear theme of repentance: Jonah is disobedient, then he prays as a sinner, and God absolves him of guilt."

These are old commentaries, some going back many centuries, and we see they all viewed Jonah Chapter 2 as a passage on repentance.
People are certainly free to hold other views, but this seems to be the traditional understanding of the passage... as well as the most straightforward interpretation of the text.



We shouldn't divide over this issue, but it's ok to dig into it, and have a good discussion.
I truly hope you've been well.
God Bless.

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So many times Christians think god will lead them to their spouse. There is nothing in the bible to support this. In fact god makes it clear you decide who you marry.

"This is what the LORD commands for Zelophehad’s daughters: They may marry anyone they please as long as they marry within their father’s tribal clan" Numbers 36:6

A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 7:39
https://herway.net/how-god-leads-you-to-your-spouse/
https://www.biblekeeper.com/god-leads-you-to-your-spouse/
https://www.justinemfulama.com/single/when-god-tells-you-who-your-husband-is/

God brought my wife to be to me while I was serving others.
 

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The Holy Spirit has been guiding and comforting me in my life-long repentance process since 1969.
The Holy Spirit may be guiding you in your life ----but He also can give you the truth of what the Scripture is saying -----and that is where I see your downfall ---you need to ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into the truth of Jonah's repentance ------


Show me in the book of Jonah where it states that he repented, specifically in his attitude towards what God wanted him to do. Nowhere to be found. That is not to say that Jonah did not repent of the sins of his life before taking on this mission.
His attitude toward God did change -----as he reflected about His actions toward God while he was in the belly of the Fish ------

Jonah's Prayer says He repented ---he had a mind and attitude change toward God -----Ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand what is being said here ----it is very plain to me ------

To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever.

But you brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God.7"When my life was ebbing away,

I remembered you, LORD, and my prayer rose to you, to your holy temple.

8 "Those who cling to worthless idols forfeit the grace that could be theirs.

9 But I, with a song of thanksgiving, will sacrifice to you.

What I have vowed I will make good. Salvation comes from the LORD."

!0 And the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.

JONAH ____REPENTED ____PERIOD and God brought him out of the belly of the whale -------Why ---Because He Repented ---He had a change of mind -------to obey -----Sometimes God has to bang a person over the head to make them realize they need to obey Him -------


Repentance is a mind change ---you change the direction of your mind from your way to God's way ---

Jonah reflected upon His actions in the belly of the fish and changed His mind set from disobedience to obedience and therefore he Repented ----Period ------



repent (34x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. to change one's mind, i.e. to repent
  2. to change one's mind for better,
"Repentance (metanoia, 'change of mind')
 

Nehemiah6

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So many times Christians think god will lead them to their spouse. There is nothing in the bible to support this. In fact god makes it clear you decide who you marry.
Why all this obsession with marriage and spouses? And what you have said is not completely true. The example of Rebekah for Isaac is a case in point. The example of Eve for Adam is even more powerful. And there are probably many others. Also kindly capitalize "God".