Thank you Rane for your advice. I just only read everything what people sent to me. I don't think too much what they say. Finally, I will read the bible to learn.
I have started to believe in Jesus Christ recently. I'm new here.
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Thanks, but no effort is needed to perceive what is implied for those with the gift, which hopefully iftekhar and other readers have.
For us it is obvious that "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" is a calling that implies the possibility of everyone believing/being saved or becoming elect (1Tim. 2:3-4) IF they freely heed the calling of the Holy Spirit and accept via faith the gracious gift of God (Eph. 2:8-9, Acts 11:18; Phil. 1:29). This process is obviously a cooperative relationship: God initiates; sinners cooperate or not.
Yes, and remember that Jesus inspired Paul to witness to Gentiles, which includes Muslims.
He did, but he didn't pull punches. He told them the truth and called them out of the darkness of their previous ways.
While you may have been trying to be diplomatic, this statement is fundamentally incorrect. Christianity does not "unite" with Judaism; it fulfills it. It does not "unite" with Islam; it rejects it as false.
There is no "harmonization" possible between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness (2 Corinthians 6:14). At least our new member understands these sharp distinctions and wants nothing to do with the teaching of the false "prophet".
Yes, and the harmonization of Roman Papalism with God's Will/Word also required a sharp Reformation.
Yes, I am trying to be diplomatic.
Here are excerpts from the first three Surahs of the Quran:
EXCERPTS FROM THE QUR’AN
(The Meaning of the Holy Qur’an, by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, 1999)
Significant teachings in the Quran are compared with the Bible, especially the New Testament. Often only the first instance of a teaching in the Quran is noted. The Surah and verse are placed within parentheses; biblical references within brackets.
(Surah 1) [introduction] God/Allah is praiseworthy, merciful and Judge. [2CR 1:3, LK 6:36, RM 2:16]
(2:2) This book contains sure guidance for those who believe. [2:89&136, 2TM 3:16-17]
(2:8) Some people say they believe, but they do not. [MT 7:21, JN 13:35]
(2:29) God created all things on earth. [GN 1, RM 1:25]
(2:34) We said to the angels… [“majestic plural” also in GN 3:22]
(2:36) Satan made Adam & Eve slip from the Garden. [GN 3:1-15]
(2:40) Children of Israel, fulfill God’s covenant. [with Abraham (GN 17:1-7) for the salvation of all people (per IS 42:1&6, 49:6)]
(2:49) We delivered you from Pharaoh [EX 14:23-31] and (v.53
gave Moses the Scripture and Criterion. [Cf. S.3, v.3-4. Criterion seems to mean miracles (DT 34:9-12)](2:61) They slew Allah’s messengers. [MT 23:37]
(2:62) Those who believe in the Quran and follow the Jewish scriptures and the Christians shall have their reward. [RM 2:28-29, 3:29-30, 4:9-12&16-17, GL 3:6-14, EPH 2:11-22]
(2:77) Allah knows what we think. [ACTS 1:24, 1CR 4:5, 14:25]
(2:83) Worship Allah, treat with kindness your parents, orphans and the poor. [EPH 4:32, 6:1-3, JM 1:27, GL 2:10, 1CR 13:3]
(2:87) We gave Jesus the Holy Spirit. [See also S.2:253, JN 14:16-17]
(2:89) There comes to them a book from Allah, confirming what is with them. [See f.94, v.136, S.6:92 & S.10:37]
(2:111f) They say: “None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.” Nay, whoever submits His whole self to Allah [Muslim] and is a doer of good—he will get his reward with his Lord. [God’s will is for us to be all three: a spiritual Jew (RM 2:29) = a genuine Christian (JM 2:17) = a true Muslim (MT 22:37-40).
(2:113) The Jews and Christians quarrel, yet they profess to study the same Book, but Allah will judge. [M also quarrel with J & C, who profess to serve the one God, but Paul taught that God’s servants (Muslims) must not quarrel (2TM 2:24, 1CR 1:10).]
(2:125) We covenanted with Abraham and Ismail. [and with Isaac! (GN 17:18-21)]
(2:133) We shall worship the God of Abraham…—the one true God. [Cf. JN 17:3.]
(2:135) Christians joined gods [Jesus and HS] with Allah. [One God relates to humanity in three normative ways; see S.2:87 & 1TM 2:5.]
(2:136) We believe in the revelation given to Moses and Jesus and to all Prophets; we make no difference between them. [See S.2:89, S.3:3&84; Jesus is unique and exalted as Messiah. (PHP 2:9-11)]
(2:137) You are on the right path; if they turn back, it is they who are in schism. [Schism is caused by those who deny the truth in both the NT and Quran. Paul wrote about how to bridge this schism in GL 3:1-29. See note for v.111.]
(2:140) Were the descendants of Abraham Jews or Christians? [Yes by faith, and also genuine Muslims as explained in the note on v.111.]
(2:143) Allah is kind and merciful to all people. [LK 6:35-36]
*(2:144 & 18:149f) Thy Qiblah [direction for prayer per f.141] is to turn your face toward the Sacred Mosque [in Makkah per f.148, cf. 1CR 3:16-17].
(2:153) Allah is with those who patiently persevere. [HB 10:36]
(2:161) Those who die rejecting Faith are cursed. [HB 9:27]
(2:168) Eat good things. [1TM 4:3-4]
(2:173) Do not eat animals that die of sickness, blood or swine unless forced by necessity. [also S.5:3 & S.16:115; cf. 1TM 4:4]
(2:178-179) The law of equality [just compensation?] is prescribed to you…that ye may restrain yourselves [from vengeance, MT 5:38f]
*(2:183&185) Fasting is prescribed to you that ye may learn self-restraint… during the month of Ramadan. [Such practices are permissible but not salvific per the NT (GL 2:14-16 & 3:21-25).]
(2:190) Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you… (and v.193
those who practice oppression [in self-defense per f.204, but cf. v.244. C also believe in just defense (based on RM 13:1-5), but stress spiritual warfare per EPH 6:12, 2CR 10:3-5, 2TM 4:7, MT 5:44. Compare terrorists with MT 5:9 & RM 12:18].(2:195) Allah loves those who do good. [MT 5:44, RM 5:8-10, RM 13:1-4]
*(2:196) Complete the Hajj or Umrah if you can afford it. [pilgrimage to Makkah, also S.3:97, cf. note on fasting; RM 12:1, JN 6:29]
(2:207) The man who gives his life earns the pleasure of Allah. [Martyrdom, if necessary, is praised in Christianity, too (cf. MT 10:16-28), but not murder-suicides.]
(2:219) The sin of wine and gambling is greater than the benefit. [also 5:90; The NT bans drunkenness explicitly in EPH 5:18 and excessive gambling implicitly in 1TM 5:8, EPH 4:28, 2CR 8:12 & 9:6-11]
(2:221) Do not marry unbelieving women. [cf. 2CR 6:14]
(2:225) Allah will not condemn you for thoughtlessness but for evil intent. [1CR 4:5]
(2:228) Divorced women shall wait for three months [before remarriage]. Men have a degree of rights over women. [Cf. GL 3:28 vs. 1TM 2:11-15.]
(2:229) A divorce is permissible only twice. [Cf. MT 19:8-12, 1CR 7:10-16]
*(2:238) Guard strictly your habit of prayers. [Cf. EPH 6:18, 1THS 5:17]
(2:256) Let there be no compulsion in religion. [cf. 9:29; Murderers and persecutors are pseudo-theists (MT 7:21).]
(2:262&264) Give without “reminders or [wanting] to be seen of men. [Cf. MT 6:2-4]
*(2:272) Whatever good you give shall be rendered back to you. [Cf. ML3:10, 2CR9:6]
(2:284) Allah forgives and punishes as He wills. [Cf. RM 9:14-18, God as Potter]
(2:286) Allah does not burden a soul greater than it can bear. [Cf. 1CR 10:13 in terms of temptation]
(3:3-4) Allah sent down the Book, confirming what went before it, the Law and the Gospel. Before this He set down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong). [S.2:89 & RM 2:14-15]
(3:12) Those who reject Faith will be gathered together in hell. [MT 23:33]
(3:19) The religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His will). [JM 4:7]
(3:32) Allah does not love those who reject Faith. [RM 5:6-10, God loves enemies]
(3:45-49) Allah will give the virgin Mary a Word from him, whose name will be Christ Jesus, who will be appointed a messenger to the children of Israel. [JN 1:14; Note the lack of mention of Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles (ACTS 13:46-47) for Christ.]
(3:59) Jesus was created like Adam: Allah said “Be”, and he was. [1CR 15:45f., the first and last Adam]
(3:67) Abraham was not a Jew or a Christian, but true in Faith and joined not gods with Allah. [RM 4, salvation by faith; 1TM 1:17 with CL 1:15]
(3:90-91) Those who reject Faith after accepting it and who die rejecting will never be accepted. [HB 6:4-6 and many passages teach the possibility of apostasy]
(3:103) Hold fast to the Rope, and be not divided among yourselves. [JN 13:35 & 17:23, EPH 4:3, 1CR 3:3, etc. command unity]
(3:110) Most People of the Book are perverted transgressors, who rejected the Signs of Allah and slew the prophets. [MT 23:34-37]
(3:118) Do not be intimate with those outside your ranks or they will corrupt you. [2CR 6:14f]
(3:132) Obey Allah and the Messenger, that ye may obtain mercy. [Also 4:80; cf. JN 17:6-8&24-26, ACTS 4:19 & JN 13:16&34 (messages must not contradict the Gospel)]
(3:135) Who can forgive sins except Allah? [LK 5:21]
(3:140) Allah takes martyrs and purges believers. [This and many following verses refer to the disastrous defeat in the battle at Uhud.]
(3:144) Muhammed is no more than a messenger. [Whereas Jesus is more than a prophet per MT 11:10-15]
(3:145) No one dies without Allah’s permission. [But God does not desire our death per 1CR 15:26.]
(3:185f.) Every soul shall die and on the Day of Judgment believers (who persevere, v.200) will be saved from the Fire and admitted to the Garden. [HB 9:27, RV 20:15, 22:1-3]
Paul has nothing to do with it. its all from Christ, he is just one messenger and nothing more. Paul is not the only one who went to the gentiles they all did go to the gentiles as Christ ordered them and they did so before Paul.
Paul is not easy to understand its always better to master words spoken By Christ before reading Paul, that is certain.
You might not be a Christian if Paul had not written most of the NT,
possibly prompting Mark, Luke and Peter to write their books,
and converted the most Gentiles, establishing the most churches.
How can you claim to be a Christian and disrespect Christ's best Apostle?!
Who else comes close to having anything to do with "it"?!