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oh my, what a callous and unkind thing to say about people expressing their feeling...
I not sure anymore
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oh my, what a callous and unkind thing to say about people expressing their feeling...
Tommy,
this is exactly what I am talking about, THE 'facts', that The Holy Spirit leads us to,
and not 'ourselves', or satan's counterfeit lies...
this is exactly what I am talking about, THE 'facts', that The Holy Spirit leads us to,
and not 'ourselves', or satan's counterfeit lies...
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Pontiac
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Have you forgotten, a case has to be proven in this country ... Our laws do not simply convict a person based upon speculation as you have done ... Are you in law enforcement ? ... I certainly hope not ... You have proven you would make a terrible judge and also do not have a mind that leads to sound judgment nor fair treatment ...
She doesn't need to go dad shopping ... It appears her husband has left, over 2 weeks since he has seen his children and likely not coming back ... I offered that suggestion to her in case she wanted a Christian husband to help her take care of her children ... If she doesn't want a Christian husband, then she doesn't have to look for one ... Below is a verse that clearly states if the unbeliever leaves, to let him go ... If you don't believe it, look it up ...
1CORINTHIANS 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
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Pontiac
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Truth is never "subjective". it is always "objective" ... Facts are truths in themselves and not only CAN they lead to other truths, they DO lead to other truths ... I see you are not exactly trained in what it takes to comprise a truth ... Subjective behavior only gets you to opinions, it doesn't lend itself to any truth ...
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Pontiac
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Haven't you noticed yet, Tommy doesn't care about any facts ... All he cares about is his own opinions and false accusations ...
You know what, I read these post people come here and make, about their crumbling marriage. I never post on them. This is the worst place to come for marital problems. I have no advice to give, but I can't sit idle while someone makes a comment about dad shopping. That's a stupid statement, and stupid statements come from stupid people.
No one on this forum has good marriage advice, I'd venture to say, most people are here cause things at home aren't well.
I admit it. The only reason I joined this site is cause my marriage fell apart. I have yet to spot any testimony on how a bunch of random strangers on the internet saved their marriage.
Sure God could save a marriage, but does he? We tell people to pray, but God changes no one's mind. You could pray a dead man back to life, long before God will take control of your spouses mind. It ain't going to happen. Free will and all.
So what are we praying for? A change in our own mind?
There was probably a month, when my wife first left, I probably could have gone to her, got on my knees, done something. Washed her feet or something. Humbled myself or something..... but everyone suggested I lay low, and pray. Bad advice in hindsight. It wasn't advice I got from here, but from Christians, none the less.
People really shouldn't come to anonymous internet forums for marriage advice.
FACTS:
Pontiac told the OP,
Go dad shopping.
Her husband is a cowrd
Suggested she privately message him.
Case closed.
Hi loverofJesus82,
Welcome to CC, God bless and keep you and yours as you place your full trust in Him to turn your trials your triumphs. I think you have touched on the central issue at the core here in that your home should be a sanctuary, for everyone under its roof, where your husband, children, as much as yourself, can feel secure and enjoy God's abundant shalom. And, whatever can be done to ensure that each one of you, individually, are assured of this sanctuary, no matter how much madness is swirling within the outside world, will be a major part of the solution. Whatever turmoil does not belong in such a place as sacred as a home, should be left at the doorstep, while those that dwell within are always made welcomed in.
Quote Pontiac:
"Not good ... Better go shopping for a good dad for those children ... Going to be a mess raising them yourself for you and them both ... I pray you find a good one ... If you don't, surely do not settle for a bad one ... That would only make matters worse ..."
I don't see any problem with dad shopping... Moms are always shopping.. Dads should be allowed to shop too.. 
The want to control one another will always be a frustrating endeavor. There are those that go as far as believing that they'd have a right to in marriage. But this will only cause conflict, pressure and resistance. A marriage is not about control of one the other as much as it is about communicating to one another with consideration to one another's autonomy, and working together to reach the reconciliation of the shared goal.
Truth is philosophical idea. It's very subjective, as in it differs in how each individual perceives reality. Facts can certainly lead to a belief, faith, or truth; but truths are not facts in themselves.
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Pontiac
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An "idea" is not truth ... It is an "idea" ... If a mere idea were truth, then all religions would be truth ... Your philosophy here demonstrates you are not a "believer" yourself ... Another thing you said is clear evidence you are not a "believer" yourself ... You stated God does not change anyone's mind ... When a person allows God into their heart, He absolutely does change their mind ... He changes their mind, their heart and their soul ... You stated you joined this site because your marriage fell apart ... I 'm sorry your marriage fell apart ... You would feel much better if you actually started reading your Bible and began to trust in God ... Your statements have proven you really don't trust in Him now ...
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Pontiac
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Furthermore reality is reality, regardless of how one perceives it ... Ones perception has no bearing upon facts, truth or reality ... Ones own perception cannot change any of those things ... Truth is not subject to any opinion or any idea ... Since God is truth Himself, that is to say that God is subject to opinion and idea ... Your thinking is completely false Tommy ...
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Depleted
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Lover, I've read what you said, and have been thinking about it for a while.
My main thought keeps coming back to he cheated on you, (and yes, while you were separated, but you weren't separated all that long), and you've been angry ever since. Well, no kidding! He cheated on you!
I get it. You love him and want this marriage to work, but have you done the obvious yet? Or, for that matter, has he? He cheated! Have either of you been to counseling to deal with that elephant in the room? (And it's going to have to be Christian counseling, because the vast majority of non-christian counselors are going to work toward getting the marriage over with.) I'm not even thinking marriage counseling, specifically because it would be too hard to open up with the counselor about how that feels with him sitting in the same room. But very big elephant! He cheated on you.
If you don't deal with that, how can either one of you move forward?
My main thought keeps coming back to he cheated on you, (and yes, while you were separated, but you weren't separated all that long), and you've been angry ever since. Well, no kidding! He cheated on you!
I get it. You love him and want this marriage to work, but have you done the obvious yet? Or, for that matter, has he? He cheated! Have either of you been to counseling to deal with that elephant in the room? (And it's going to have to be Christian counseling, because the vast majority of non-christian counselors are going to work toward getting the marriage over with.) I'm not even thinking marriage counseling, specifically because it would be too hard to open up with the counselor about how that feels with him sitting in the same room. But very big elephant! He cheated on you.
If you don't deal with that, how can either one of you move forward?
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Tommy, stop poking him. He's going to keep defending himself every time you (or anyone) says something, so simply stop saying something to him.