If Man Has No Role In His Own Salvation......
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Do you understand that it is NOT the changing of ones mind but it is the turn around of the heart? It is OUT OF THE HEART
Mark 6
[SUP]20 [/SUP]He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, [SUP]22 [/SUP]adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. [SUP]23 [/SUP]All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”
The root of unbelief STEMS FROM THE HEART not the head. It is the heart that needs to turn around.
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um, the heart is the mind. Not the organ that pumps blood.
so if you change your heart, your changing your mind..
Wrong definition
Definition Heart - Merriam Webster
Full Definition of HEART
1
a : a hollow muscular organ of vertebrate animals that by its rhythmic contraction acts as a force pump maintaining the circulation of the blood
b : a structure in an invertebrate animal functionally analogous to the vertebrate heart
c : breast, bosom
d : something resembling a heart in shape; specifically : a stylized representation of a heart
2
a : a playing card marked with a stylized figure of a red heart
b plural : the suit comprising cards marked with hearts
c plural but sing or plural in constr : a game in which the object is to avoid taking tricks containing hearts
3
a : personality, disposition <a cold heart>
b obsolete : intellect
4
: the emotional or moral as distinguished from the intellectual nature: as
a : generous disposition : compassion <a leader with heart>
b : love, affection <won her heart>
c : courage, ardor <never lost heart>
5
: one's innermost character, feelings, or inclinations <knew it in his heart> <a man after my own heart>
6
a : the central or innermost part : center
b : the essential or most vital part of something
c : the younger central compact part of a leafy rosette (as a head of lettuce)
— at heart : in essence : basically, essentially
— by heart : by rote or from memory
— to heart : with deep concern
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eternally-gratefull
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I do not get my doctrine from the english dictionarey either.
καρδία, -ας, ἡ, poetic κραδία and καρδίη (in the latter form almost always in Hom. [only at the beginning of a line in three places; everywhere else by metathesis κραδίη; Ebeling, Lex. Hom. s. v.]), [fr. a root signifying to quiver or palpitate; cf. Curtius § 39; Vaniček p. 1097 (Etym. Magn. 491, 56 παρὰ τὸ κραδαίνω, τὸ σείω• ἀεικίνητος γὰρ ἡ καρδία); allied with Lat. cor; Eng. heart]; Sept. for לֵב and לֵבָב; the heart;
1. prop. that organ in the animal body which is the centre of the circulation of the blood, and hence was regarded as the seat of physical life: 2 S. 18:14; 2 K. 9:24; Tob. 6:5 (4), 7 (6) sq., 17 (16). Hence
2. univ. καρδία denotes the seat and centre of all physical and spiritual life; and
a. the vigor and sense of physical life (Ps. 101 (102):5; στήρισον τὴν καρδίαν σου ψωμῷ ἄρτου, Judg. 19:5; to which add Ps. 103 (104):15): τρέφειν τὰς καρδίας, Jas. 5:5; ἐμπιπλῶν τὰς καρδίας τροφῆς, Acts 14:17; Βαρεῖν τ. καρδίας κραιπάλῃ καὶ μέθῃ, Lk. 21:34; [but see b. δ. below];
b. the centre and seat of spiritual life, the soul or mind, as it is the fountain and seat of the thoughts, passions, desires, appetites, affections, purposes, endeavors [so in Eng. heart, inner man, etc.];
Thayer, J. H. (1889). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: being Grimm’s Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti (p. 325). New York: Harper & Brothers.
2840 καρδία (kardia), ας (as), ἡ (hē): n.fem.; ≡ DBLHebr 4213, 4222; Str 2588; TDNT 3.605—1. LN 26.3 inner self, never the literal body part called the “heart,” this is a reference to the areas of the inner self, including: the volition, the mind, the desires, etc., though the facility of the intellect make be slightly more emphasized (Mt 15:19; Lk 6:45 v.r.); 2. LN 83.14 inside, far inside something (Mt 12:40), note: see LN index for a fuller treatment of the lexical units.
Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
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eternally-gratefull
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and while we are at it:
repent:
μετα-νοέω, -ῶ; fut. μετανοήσω; 1 aor. μετενόησα; fr. [Antipho], Xen. down; Sept. several times for נִחַם; to change one’s mind, i.e. to repent (to feel sorry that one has done this or that, Jon. 3:9), of having offended some one,
Thayer, J. H. (1889). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: being Grimm’s Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti (p. 405). New York: Harper & Brothers.
41.52 μετανοέω; μετάνοια, ας f: to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’5
Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 509). New York: United Bible Societies.
μετανοέω, μετάνοια
metanoeō, to know after, change one’s mind, repent; metanoia, repentance
Spicq, C., & Ernest, J. D. (1994). Theological lexicon of the New Testament (Vol. 2, p. 471). Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers.
I think I will trust the greek scholars, if thats is ok??
repent:
μετα-νοέω, -ῶ; fut. μετανοήσω; 1 aor. μετενόησα; fr. [Antipho], Xen. down; Sept. several times for נִחַם; to change one’s mind, i.e. to repent (to feel sorry that one has done this or that, Jon. 3:9), of having offended some one,
Thayer, J. H. (1889). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: being Grimm’s Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti (p. 405). New York: Harper & Brothers.
41.52 μετανοέω; μετάνοια, ας f: to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’5
Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 509). New York: United Bible Societies.
μετανοέω, μετάνοια
metanoeō, to know after, change one’s mind, repent; metanoia, repentance
Spicq, C., & Ernest, J. D. (1994). Theological lexicon of the New Testament (Vol. 2, p. 471). Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers.
I think I will trust the greek scholars, if thats is ok??
Just how does one describe a deeply personal confrontation about ones sin before Almighty God? If you have faced God under conviction about your sin and the impending judgment that has been decreed, well you would gladly accept mental agreement but alas it's far more than that. Being broken over your sin and the agony Christ bore to redeem your soul if I could get away with a mental agreement I would be getting off easy.
Nope I'm face down before the Lamb of God broken and pleading, begging Him to forgive me and save me from my sins. The burden is Spiritual and the action is Spiritual. He received me vile as I was and He made me into His image before the Father. I am more in Christ than I could ever be otherwise.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
that is what he teaches...but if one mind is changed then their attitude will change also and their actions will change too....
he teaches repentance is a change of mind from unbelief of the gospel to belief of the gospel...and thus you are now saved...
Yet scripture shows it is a change of heart. The mind follows the heart not the other way around.
repentance is not only change of mind but change of action
Matthew 21:28-33King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
Change in mine follow by change in action.
Change in action not always change in mine. It my pretending not from the heart.
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eternally-gratefull
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faith Why do you people ignore faith?
Belief is a mental agreement, We can agree, yet not have faith.
True faith saves. Faith means trust, assurance.
31.85 πιστεύωb; πίστιςb, εως f: to believe to the extent of complete trust and reliance—‘to believe in, to have confidence in, to have faith in, to trust, faith, trust.’
Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition., Vol. 1, p. 375). New York: United Bible Societies.
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eternally-gratefull
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only his mind is changed...not the heart
Matthew 15:19
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Matthew 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.