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Ananda look at this covering then you tell me who clothed you. And Ananda look when will we LACK NOTHING.... When we are PERFECT! not before, and you can get this perfection right here... Read it and I hope you are the first one of us that LACK NOTHING! (Wanting or lacking nothing)
NANA look wherever we go GOD keep on persisting about us being PERFECT HERE! Wonder where God got His doctrine from?
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
The POWER I talk about is this NANA... 2 Peter 1... According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
NANA look wherever we go GOD keep on persisting about us being PERFECT HERE! Wonder where God got His doctrine from?
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
The POWER I talk about is this NANA... 2 Peter 1... According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
C
dont they(you highlighted my comment on the epistles), maybe im reading a different bible on christian living than you kathy which i doubt but my focus is on the heart of it cause when i read it all i see is the love of God and walking in His love because of the finished work of the cross thru Jesus.
it seems, with all due respect, that what it says in Heb 6 1-3 has different meanings of apllication for us both. im not caught up in "false doctrine" so iv moved on from it with the realization that people are where they are at, wrong or right, He is faithful to finish the work He has started in us regardless, false doctrine to me is when people deny Jesus is the son of God, law mingled with grace, for that is the main heart of what i found the bible is talking about, but hey we all see things different and im always open to be corrected.
but i find it a cheap swipe to say about mormons or athiests, ps 1, we can share if they allow us but then im not going to stand in their way but pray God blesses the seed or water what i have shared to bring the increase. brave to say whos going to hell and who is going to heaven because scripture teaches us not to go there, we are not given to judge that aspect cause to my understanding is that i dont know, they could repent with their last breathe of air and receive the same as someone who has walked faithfully alll their life.
hence i dislike the love of theology and keep it simple kathy, thats where im at in my walk, does that mean if i dont subscribe to how others love theology that i should feel damned and condemned??
far from it, my heart is open to God to do as He wills when He wills it, so far, where im at, i have such a peace about His love, am i perfect in it?? Not to the depths of His but am so far from how i used to be with it that its been by His grace, pruning correcting and chastizing me along the way to date.
oh Kathy i do, i just never understand why such the focus on it that would steal joy over debating it I'm just a simple kinda guy
PS
do word count on love lol
I'm just a simple kinda guyPS
do word count on love lol
whose joy?
i am always joyful.
i LOVE THEOLOGY AND ALL THINGS ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. ok alex?
you're not fussy about it. i get it.
joy comes from knowing Our Saviour and what He has done for us.
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you only lack because you lust for things God has not already given you. you sin, but don't extend your view of yourself to me.
Stop seeking after POWER and seek after GOD.
My heart rejoices in the truth of these words.
Philippians 4:11-13
New King James Version (NKJV)
11 Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: 12 I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through Christ[a] who strengthens me.
Stop seeking after POWER and seek after GOD.
My heart rejoices in the truth of these words.
Philippians 4:11-13
New King James Version (NKJV)
11 Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: 12 I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. 13 I can do all things through Christ[a] who strengthens me.
J
Hi Cobus
I replied to you privately YESTERDAY to the private email you sent me. Your email covered all the questions raised here on this thread and other questions. You have not yet replied (maybe you didn't notice I had sent the reply to you?). Therefore, I have sent you the email again (with a few additions). I think it best if you respond to my email first before writing anything more on this thread to save the readers spending time answering questions which have ALREADY been answered by my email.
God bless
I replied to you privately YESTERDAY to the private email you sent me. Your email covered all the questions raised here on this thread and other questions. You have not yet replied (maybe you didn't notice I had sent the reply to you?). Therefore, I have sent you the email again (with a few additions). I think it best if you respond to my email first before writing anything more on this thread to save the readers spending time answering questions which have ALREADY been answered by my email.
God bless
J
The Heresy of Perfectionism by R.C. Sproul | Ligonier Ministries Blog
Hi Zone
I have now read that above link. However, I notice that you posted an earlier thread in July 2011 using that link as an OP. Wow it received 53 pages of response. Too many pages for me to read through. I read through a selection to see how the adherents of sinless perfection responded. I can see all the regulars there. Clearly nothing has changed their opinions over the last 3 months.
What I have noticed on this forum is that very few read the full OP or follow threads through properly. Most just like to say their piece (out of context) without considering what others have to say, ie it seems they are not capable of modifying their views even if proved false. THEY WILL NOT BE MOVED!
Maybe, instead of reading, maybe just maybe a video may have a better result. Therefore, I will give a video link (a series of 4) entitled "Do Christians Commit Sin" that covers much more ground but is easy to listen to and quicker than reading. For the link to the first video (the others follow one after the other) please CLICK HERE
Zone, please let me know what you think of them
Hi Zone
I have now read that above link. However, I notice that you posted an earlier thread in July 2011 using that link as an OP. Wow it received 53 pages of response. Too many pages for me to read through. I read through a selection to see how the adherents of sinless perfection responded. I can see all the regulars there. Clearly nothing has changed their opinions over the last 3 months.
What I have noticed on this forum is that very few read the full OP or follow threads through properly. Most just like to say their piece (out of context) without considering what others have to say, ie it seems they are not capable of modifying their views even if proved false. THEY WILL NOT BE MOVED!
Maybe, instead of reading, maybe just maybe a video may have a better result. Therefore, I will give a video link (a series of 4) entitled "Do Christians Commit Sin" that covers much more ground but is easy to listen to and quicker than reading. For the link to the first video (the others follow one after the other) please CLICK HERE
Zone, please let me know what you think of them