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ThomistColin said:
And now you're becoming Anti-Semitic?

The Ashkenaz and Sephardim are both Jewish. They just lived in different areas after the Diaspora.
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The Sephardim are from Jewish bloodlines..... The Ashkenazis are not.

A person who believes in Judaism doesn't make him a Jew in the same way as he sits in the garage doesn't make him a car.

Get an education so you'll stop throwing judgments around like they're playing cards.
 
jaybird88 said:
i think its a bit odd the Rothchilds, the richest family in the world are Jewish. they are not Jewish by blood, they dont seem to devoted to the practice, the are simply Jewish in name only. why?
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Ashkenazi zionists are not true Jews..... they are fakes. Not only so, but they are the ones that stir up all the trouble for Israel. They are the ones who get true Israel blamed for everything. Research Israel's leaders for the last 10-20 years & you'll find out who they are.

Romans 2:28-29 (NASB) [SUP]28 [/SUP]For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. [SUP]29 [/SUP]But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

Revelation 2:8-9 (NRSV) [SUP]8 [/SUP]"And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of the first and the last, who was dead and came to life: [SUP]9 [/SUP]"I know your affliction and your poverty, even though you are rich. I know the slander on the part of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:7-9 (NRSV) [SUP]7 [/SUP]"And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of the holy one, the true one, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, who shuts and no one opens: [SUP]8 [/SUP]"I know your works. Look, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. [SUP]9[/SUP]I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
 
This was covered in a previous thread last year. The consensus was that it was the aliens who were/are responsible.
 
tourist said:
This was covered in a previous thread last year. The consensus was that it was the aliens who were/are responsible.
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Ephesians 2:11-13 (KJV) [SUP]11 [/SUP]Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; [SUP]12 [/SUP]That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [SUP]13 [/SUP]But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Aliens = sinners..... by golly, you're right!;)
 
Stephen63 said:
The Sephardim are from Jewish bloodlines..... The Ashkenazis are not.

A person who believes in Judaism doesn't make him a Jew in the same way as he sits in the garage doesn't make him a car.

Get an education so you'll stop throwing judgments around like they're playing cards.
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the ashkenazim are israelite and share the same primary ancestry as the sephardim...genetic testing has established this repeatedly...
 
From Ashkenazi Jews descend from 350 people, study finds | The Times of Israel

Ashkenazi Jews are known to have origins in the Levant, which Israel is smack dab in the middle of. But exactly who “European” Ashkenazi Jews are has long been debated. An analysis of the gene database shows that the original Ashkenazi Jews were about half European and half Middle Eastern. They lived in the medieval era, about 600 to 800 years ago, according to the analysis – and numbered just 350 or so people.
“Our analysis shows that Ashkenazi Jewish medieval founders were ethnically admixed, with origins in Europe and in the Middle East, roughly in equal parts,” said Shai Carmi, a post-doctoral scientist who works with Pe’er and conducted the analysis. “[The] data are more comprehensive than what was previously available, and we believe the data settle the dispute regarding
European and Middle Eastern ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews.”

That's quite a mix.
 
Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.
 
Stephen63 said:
From Ashkenazi Jews descend from 350 people, study finds | The Times of Israel

Ashkenazi Jews are known to have origins in the Levant, which Israel is smack dab in the middle of. But exactly who “European” Ashkenazi Jews are has long been debated. An analysis of the gene database shows that the original Ashkenazi Jews were about half European and half Middle Eastern. They lived in the medieval era, about 600 to 800 years ago, according to the analysis – and numbered just 350 or so people.
“Our analysis shows that Ashkenazi Jewish medieval founders were ethnically admixed, with origins in Europe and in the Middle East, roughly in equal parts,” said Shai Carmi, a post-doctoral scientist who works with Pe’er and conducted the analysis. “[The] data are more comprehensive than what was previously available, and we believe the data settle the dispute regarding
European and Middle Eastern ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews.”

That's quite a mix.
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obviously intermarriages happened...but this clearly doesn't wipe out the israelite part of their ancestry...
 
Stephen63 said:
Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European

The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.
Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.
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from the article...

"Past research found that 50 percent to 80 percent of DNA from the Ashkenazi Y chromosome, which is used to trace the male lineage, originated in the Near East, Richards said."

"'The simplest explanation was that it was mainly women who converted and they married with men who'd come from the Near East,' Richards told LiveScience."

what is it with anti semitic conspiracy theorists and not even knowing what's in their own articles? at least -read- what you dredge up from google before you post it...
 
Many toss Enoch out because Constantine didn't want to include it.
Look at the book of Enoch and Freemasonry.
It would appear they parallel each other. If Freemasonry is Satanic.. And they are building from Enoch.. Shouldn't we study Enoch? And see why?
Illuminati. A name made to make us giggle. To make us ridicule anyone who tries to inform us. You can't say it's irrelevant when it is probably the most relevant piece of information to a Christian as this Alien stuff plays out. We are being deceived. And I know Lifelong Christians who believe Aliens are God's creation from other galaxies. Its scary! The enemy is HERE!! And we're buying his lies so easily.
Freemasonry and the Book of Enoch.
If it helps, read it like a magazine at first. Don't try to analyze it. Let it sink in and I pray you'll see what I mean.

To clarify.. I'm NOT saying Enoch is demonic or what not. I'm saying Freemasons KNOW what we think we know, but they're with The Enemy. They are real. They are satanic. And they own the Media/Hollywood and yep the minds of our children.
So study up. Be informed. A 'conspiracy theory' isn't automatically crap. We're programmed to dismiss for a reason.
 
Ok so the word illuminati is real and was used before. Ignore the made to make us giggle part, in that case.
 
Yes, it's real for sure...
How can I prove it,
you can look on YouTube,
My mom has better arguments to tell you
that Illuminati are real.
Look upon the singers like Rihanna, Beyonce,
Katy Perry etc...
 
Unfortunately it does exist and has for who knows how long. True, focus on Jesus, do not let the enemy distract you. At the same time, it doesn't hurt to know what to look out for. The last thing I'd want is to spend money on something that seems appealing only to later learn that it has a satanic symbol on it. Besides, I don't want a dime of my money to go toward an individual or organization that hates Jesus.
 
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