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[Angela53510]

Patience, Noel!

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [SUP]23 [/SUP]gentleness, self-control;against such things there is no law." Gal. 5:22-23

When I was first a Christian, I know I wanted to grow up instantly, walk with God and do great things for God. God started working on the fruits of the Holy Spirit. I hear a lot of demanding to have the gifts, but that is a GIFT of God. But the fruits come from the Holy Spirit when we walk with God. Been working on patience a long time in my own life, I confess. Better today than a few years ago.

I think God is working on teaching you patience. So this is exactly the time to NOT give up. Be patient, because God loves you and he is doing a work in your life. Really, God is everywhere and he has planned your life since before you were born.

"For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" Psalm 139:13-14a.

Really, even if you decide to kick God out of your life, where would you go??

"Where shall I go from your Spirit?
Or where shall I flee from your presence?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If I ascend to heaven, you are there!
If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If I take the wings of the morning
and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]even there your hand shall lead me,
and your right hand shall hold me." Psalm 139:7-10

I am so glad you came to this forum. I know it is a sign that God is working on you! The greatest miracles are the ones that happen slowly in our hearts. I will be praying that God continues this amazing work in you!

Finally, a little tip! We do not command the God who created the universe. Not for miracles, signs and wonders or demands he reveal himself. Instead, submit yourself to God and you will find the one who was right beside you all along.

 

[Noel139]

That man who lied to me and my family and kicked us out of his home with nothing was a pastor. I thought he was my family, but I know how families are. I live with my mom and two brothers and the rest of my family, who also claim to be Christians, could care less about me. I don't trust anybody. Not even the family I live with.

 

[maxwel]

Noel,

There are some very kind, and very mature Christian women here...
you should let them counsel you, and let them help you.

 

[AprilAngel]

That man who lied to me and my family and kicked us out of his home with nothing was a pastor. I thought he was my family, but I know how families are. I live with my mom and two brothers and the rest of my family, who also claim to be Christians, could care less about me. I don't trust anybody. Not even the family I live with.

I have been hurt by very devout "Christians" it is terrible to find out that they really were just a wolf in sheeps skin. It maskes trusting other people, specifically christians, so very difficult. You begin to doubt and ask God "are you there?" the thing is, He is!! It is the enemy who uses those "fake christians" to shake our faith to question God, to get angry, he uses this as power over you! You need to stay strong in your faith, and tell the enemy you will not be moved by this!

Do not let the enemy win. God loves you!!!

 

[CHRISTENE]

Prayed.

Glory be to God alone.

 

[CHRISTENE]

Noel, I can relate to your feelings, when I came in faith; people were warm, welcomed me and I thought wow this is great! But then slowly I could see their real colours, I have seen believer's , pastors all disappointing me and there was a time even I doubted was there any real christian out there or is this world filled with hypocrites alone,even today I find people who disappoint me and tear my trust in them but I have learned something from the Lord and this learning helps me to carry on.I don't mean there aren't any true christian's , there are people like real precious jewels of Christ on earth and I am thankful and grateful to God for choosing them to be His children and His light ,love and fragrance on earth.

You feel God need's to assure you His presence, He will if you yearn from your true heart but to give Him a time limit is not right. I yearned for God, there came a time in my life where I felt forsaken unwanted and my family, my relatives , my friend's and every one I knew disappointed, forsaked and left me alone to deal with my problems which was like me carrying a very big mountain on my head.

I had faith in God, though I was not a Christian I believed God existed from my childhood because once as kid I happen to watch a movie where the hero prayed to God for a breeze so the curtain of a carrier be lifted and he could see the beautiful damsel sitting inside, and for me as I saw the movie God heard him and granted his request. As a child I used to imitate movie dialog's , elder people and every thing I got attracted to, so once I was out playing and the weather was real hot and I was sweating and I happen to remember remember that dialog I said God if you are real please send a breeze for me, just the same word's of the hero, for my surprise my wish was granted, a cool breeze touched me and from that day I was sure God was real, only I didn't knew Christ and I belonged to the group of unbeliever's idol worshiper's .

As I grew I had faith in God but they were the idols and when my above said forsaken and lonely moment appeared I turned to my idols for an answer, but for days, months there was no reply and in total disappointment I cried " if there is any God in this world please help me," my answer was not granted immediately it took time and then in a odd way I got introduced to Christ. But for me Christ was and is real because he has shown me His presence and I have heard His voice. So brother I can tell you fix your eyes on Jesus and not on people, Jesus never entrusted him to anyone because He knew what was in man, He knew we are weak vessels all work in progress, with lots of flaws and uncertainty ,direct your love to Jesus and pray for revelation , He gave me and I hope you will get it too if you really need it , He never disappoints a needy person.

Sometimes I do smile on me the way I imitated that dialog and got to believe that God is true!!

 

[CHRISTENE]

I forgot to add, the mountain I was carrying on my head was related to my academics and gladly Christ solved my problem. Glory to God . Amen.

 

[jkalyna]

Yeshua talks everyday to us, if we open our ears and the bible. He does not have favorites, he speaks through the HOly Spirit to us, through the word. Discouragement is a tool from hell. Nothing is worth thanking God for, everything is like the wool is over your eyes, is a lie. Jesus said, "come unto me all ye that are weary and heavy laden, and "I WILL GIVE YOU REST.} It is something that no one could give you no psychiatrist, no body period. A pill will make you fall asleep, but the discouragment and negative views will be again there. I was at a point like this in life, I wanted instant answers now and not then, but I just knew about Jesus, I didn't know him, and it takes time to grow up spiritually, to be mature, rooted and grounded. He loves you just the way you are and honesty is the best policy, so things will change in Jesus name. I say you are Blessed to be a blessing.

 

[xAlphaOmega]

Noel speak to us, how are you doing?

 

[jkalyna]

Noel, I can relate to your feelings, when I came in faith; people were warm, welcomed me and I thought wow this is great! But then slowly I could see their real colours, I have seen believer's , pastors all disappointing me and there was a time even I doubted was there any real christian out there or is this world filled with hypocrites alone,even today I find people who disappoint me and tear my trust in them but I have learned something from the Lord and this learning helps me to carry on.I don't mean there aren't any true christian's , there are people like real precious jewels of Christ on earth and I am thankful and grateful to God for choosing them to be His children and His light ,love and fragrance on earth.

You feel God need's to assure you His presence, He will if you yearn from your true heart but to give Him a time limit is not right. I yearned for God, there came a time in my life where I felt forsaken unwanted and my family, my relatives , my friend's and every one I knew disappointed, forsaked and left me alone to deal with my problems which was like me carrying a very big mountain on my head.

I had faith in God, though I was not a Christian I believed God existed from my childhood because once as kid I happen to watch a movie where the hero prayed to God for a breeze so the curtain of a carrier be lifted and he could see the beautiful damsel sitting inside, and for me as I saw the movie God heard him and granted his request. As a child I used to imitate movie dialog's , elder people and every thing I got attracted to, so once I was out playing and the weather was real hot and I was sweating and I happen to remember remember that dialog I said God if you are real please send a breeze for me, just the same word's of the hero, for my surprise my wish was granted, a cool breeze touched me and from that day I was sure God was real, only I didn't knew Christ and I belonged to the group of unbeliever's idol worshiper's .

As I grew I had faith in God but they were the idols and when my above said forsaken and lonely moment appeared I turned to my idols for an answer, but for days, months there was no reply and in total disappointment I cried " if there is any God in this world please help me," my answer was not granted immediately it took time and then in a odd way I got introduced to Christ. But for me Christ was and is real because he has shown me His presence and I have heard His voice. So brother I can tell you fix your eyes on Jesus and not on people, Jesus never entrusted him to anyone because He knew what was in man, He knew we are weak vessels all work in progress, with lots of flaws and uncertainty ,direct your love to Jesus and pray for revelation , He gave me and I hope you will get it too if you really need it , He never disappoints a needy person.

Sometimes I do smile on me the way I imitated that dialog and got to believe that God is true!!​

Thank you for your honesty. Churches, and forums, chat sites, are public places. Where ever your discouragements come from it usually is from these public places. Jesus was always in the public. He was mocked, riduculed, laughed at, dishonered, and rejected as the Son of God, by his own people, the Jews. There is not many people that are open hearted and true to the core, that shows the light of Jesus living in them, and the fruits of the HOly Spirit in action in them. I found that it is the RELIGIOUS people that actually hate me, because they have not been set free, even as word professing they are christians. Christian is just a word. So many are bound with strongholds and when the light shines on them they immediately react to it, as offensive. The other day I could of said, and actually did, that I am not coming on here anymore because of some hyprocritical people, and religious actions. But I thought the power of God is greater than the wiles of the devil by attacking me, in being in the joy of the Lord. Satan knows that the word of the Lord is true. " A merry heart is like medicine, and a broken spirit dryeth the bones, sickness comes from this as the bones are the production of the blood, in the marrow. The Lord had it all known way before science knew anything, physiologically, and psychologically and spiritually. The scripture that beams up like a light tower after this was this one, "pull the beam out of your own eye to see cleary, the little mote of dust in your brother's eye." Knowing the word, is not the same as doing it, it is just a game, of being in charge of having pride, and not surrending it all to the Lord because of FEAR, and not Faith. Fear holds many back, from truly loving others without reservations, as the word says, "nothing shall offend the Godly, it is a great loving warm feeling that you could be yourself, with God, and it really dosn't matter what someones opinion of you or about you is, because that is futile and folly, God laughs at the foolish. What matters, is that a persons heart is pure and open with God, and when it is, it is vulnerable to being hurt as a honest person in spirit of excellency, does not wear as mask, it is this is me. Therefore offenses will come said the Lord. I thought of your statement, your tired of this crap, you are right, it is crap, it is not neither holy nor santification that comes out of some people. So thank you for starting the tread, and thank you all sisters/ sincere others, who are honest. Don't let some religious people discourage you, and forgive them, because their eyes and hearts are closed and calloused, for the word to take root on good ground. The stoney heart goes and grows nothing. Don't get discouraged dear sister, they are nothing but fiery darts, to get you to feel pain, but the good news is, " it will come back upon them, guarenteed by God, for he said, vengenace belongs to him, and he will repay, for what so ever a man soweth that he also shall reap. Their are many angry, ill people, leave them in the LOrds hands, and whom the son sets free is free indeed, so we follow Yeshus, we are also to follow his command, forgive. God Bless everyone and may the spirit of discouragement, be defeated, destroyed , dismantled, and be powerless over you, in Jesus name. ​

 

[ngmoody]

It seems that your trying to hear the small voice. Its there, you just have to open your heart. Allow the spirit to work through.
I can tell through experience, i hated listening. But then he made me listen. He molds you into the person were meant to be. Not who we want to be. And sometimes it hurts.

 

[jkalyna]

After a few days I thought about this, sometimes we run away like Jonah did, when he was being called to do something, to be a witness for him, he took off in another direction. So if we think about things with a light on we could see better, in the light of the LOrd. to get rubbed the wronge way is not our faultl, it's the other who is abrasive, and we feel it. Sometimes were just overheated with emotions, and it's better to take a cold spiritual shower before we present ourselves to others, so we won't be sorry for the thing we say. I think I'll be taking more spiritual showers to get the dirt off from the world.