Is Barak Obama guilty of treason?

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Did Barak Obama commit treason?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 67.9%
  • No

    Votes: 4 14.3%
  • Not sure yet

    Votes: 5 17.9%

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Yeah, speaking of Epstein, this Obama thing seems like a convenient distraction from Cheeto Messiah covering for pedos

Your right but he turned the attack to Obama because it's a safe zone where they both know they cant talk and that it will end up going nowhere.
 
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Your right but he turned the attack to Obama because it's a safe zone where they both know they cant talk and that it will end up going nowhere.
There are two very plausible ways to look at this news about Obama.

1. It is the truth

and

2. It is a distraction designed to distract from the Epstein case along with the info on Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination and JFK assassination.

If it is a distraction then it means we are over the target with Epstein and we need to keep the pressure on for a full disclosure regardless of the cost to the CIA and intelligence community.

So then, what about if it is the truth? Well that means that Trump is cleaning house like Michael Corleone and going after all those who tried to take him out. It is highly likely that this attempt by Obama will tie in with the attempt to assassinate him during this campaign by the deep state. That would also explain the information released on JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. Each of these stories about the CIA will encourage different witnesses to come forth. Therefore it suggests that in order to prosecute the Epstein case they must prosecute the deep state and to do that they need to release many files to get them fighting on multiple fronts.

Therefore regardless of whether it is the truth or a distraction we are over the target with Epstein and this clearly leads to the deep state.

Also it means they are cornered as their plans are out in the open for all to see.

Therefore the only card left for the deep state to play is to "say hello to my little friend" -- expect a horrific false flag attack any day now. If it is ten times worse than 911 it will make all this other stuff trivial.
 
Yep, the more everyone is crying out for justice the more they know they'll have to toss them someone, so poor Comey seems like he will be offered up to placate the mob.
Unfortunately for Comey if he talks he can bring down the entire deep state, so I suspect they'll make sure he doesn't talk.
 
Appreciate the prophecy.
Perhaps what he meant is that Trump is a benevolent president who is merciful and that he is not going to hold a grudge just because someone tried to kill him twice. Still, if I was Obama I'd avoid meeting Trump on fifth avenue.
 
There are two very plausible ways to look at this news about Obama.

1. It is the truth

and

2. It is a distraction designed to distract from the Epstein case along with the info on Martin Luther King Jr. Assassination and JFK assassination.

If it is a distraction then it means we are over the target with Epstein and we need to keep the pressure on for a full disclosure regardless of the cost to the CIA and intelligence community.

So then, what about if it is the truth? Well that means that Trump is cleaning house like Michael Corleone and going after all those who tried to take him out. It is highly likely that this attempt by Obama will tie in with the attempt to assassinate him during this campaign by the deep state. That would also explain the information released on JFK and Martin Luther King Jr. Each of these stories about the CIA will encourage different witnesses to come forth. Therefore it suggests that in order to prosecute the Epstein case they must prosecute the deep state and to do that they need to release many files to get them fighting on multiple fronts.

Therefore regardless of whether it is the truth or a distraction we are over the target with Epstein and this clearly leads to the deep state.

Also it means they are cornered as their plans are out in the open for all to see.

Therefore the only card left for the deep state to play is to "say hello to my little friend" -- expect a horrific false flag attack any day now. If it is ten times worse than 911 it will make all this other stuff trivial.

They are about to release this or may have already but since this is your thread I'll go ahead and give you it so you can read it. https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docu...-Report-Manufactured-Russia-Hoax-July2025.pdf
 
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No crime committed. It's a nothing Burger

Appreciate the culinary perspective.

I'm of the wait and see persuasion and do understand any cynicism. But there's a lot of energy pushing for transparency and justice and IMO it's clear something took place. There are also a lot of strategies and tactics taking place now, so we know what we know and reporters and people are used to speculating.

Obama involvement or leadership would not be surprising to me. I also think we're seeing some strengths of Tulsi that some have considered. It's not like she's afraid to pull out some weaponry even against her own party. Some more about the cabinet choices are surfacing. There was a lot of work going on in the background for the years prepping for Trump while he was running again. A Senator allegedly being put on some Quiet Skies watchlist plus her issues with H.Clinton are interesting considering the position she ended up in. Nothing like motivation coupled with authority. I said awhile back that the DOJ needed expanding.
 
No crime committed. It's a nothing Burger
Nothing burger? You are a prophet and never told us, that is something. But just in case this turns out to be a false prophecy I'll gather my stones together now.
 
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Nothing burger? You are a prophet and never told us, that is something. But just in case this turns out to be a false prophecy I'll gather my stones together now.
Because it's literally not a crime to suggest that there may have been Russian collusion. First amendment free speech.
The best your Cheeto Messiah could hope for is a defamation lawsuit in civil court and even that is doubtful
 
They are about to release this or may have already but since this is your thread I'll go ahead and give you it so you can read it. https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docu...-Report-Manufactured-Russia-Hoax-July2025.pdf
After a quick perusal I would say Obama acted in way designed to intentionally feed the fire of conspiracy theories.

Apparently this one document was not as credible as fifteen other documents done that came to a very different conclusion. Obama left the other documents classified while allowing this document to be declassified. I would say that is extremely irresponsible for several reasons.

1. Trump had already been elected. Releasing this document would clearly feed the fires of conspiracy theory and undermine his presidency.

2. You can't hide behind the fig leaf of wanting to be transparent, because if you were transparent you would have released the other 15 reports which contradicted this one.

3. The document itself seems to be fabricated, that in itself is a lie and an act of subterfuge. However, not publishing the other 15 documents is clearly and undeniably an act of lying by omission. The way Obama released this it portrayed the intelligence community was fully agreed on Russian collusion when in fact the opposite was the case where the majority of the intelligence community had debunked the assertion.

4. Obama ordered this "revision" to be made and he is also the one who chose to declassify it despite it being a theory that had clearly not been verified and knowing the damage it would do to Trump's presidency. He is also the one that did not declassify the other 15 reports. So this clearly goes all the way to the Whitehouse.

In conclusion I don't know if this will lead to a conviction for treason, but it does reveal that Obama is a very big liar. I know this was referred to the DOJ but I would argue they don't have jurisdiction. Obama was president at the time. Probably the only way you can prosecute him for this is in a military tribunal for treason.
 
Because it's literally not a crime to suggest that there may have been Russian collusion. First amendment free speech.
The best your Cheeto Messiah could hope for is a defamation lawsuit in civil court and even that is doubtful
You don't know what you are talking about. The intelligence community had already done 15 reports on this question concluding that Russia was not involved and could not be involved. Obama ordered a revision to the report to be done which concluded the opposite. By all accounts it is the least credible of the 16 reports. Obama then declassified the least credible report and only that report giving the false impression that the intelligence community was agreed on this conclusion when in reality the opposite was true.

The issue is not whether someone suggested that there might have been Russian collusion, nor is the issue that they investigated it. The issue is that this report seems to be a complete fabrication, that it was ordered by Obama despite the intelligence community already having done 15 previous investigations debunking the assertion and then Obama declassified the one bogus report while leaving the other 15 classified so that there was a false perception that the intelligence community had come to this conclusion which was a bald faced lie. He released this report after Trump had already been elected giving the media a fig leaf they could hide behind as they attacked the Trump administration with this lie which had Obama's seal of approval. This then became the basis for Trump's first impeachment, which if successful would have removed a sitting president based on a fabricated lie that Obama pushed, that by definition is a coup.

If Obama had released all 16 reports he could claim he was being transparent and that he simply wanted to put the concerns to rest. But by only releasing one and keeping 15 classified he put his seal of approval on that one. He is guilty of being the source of this lie which undermined the President of the US for a year. This is not trivial as the reason Trump was impeached the first time had to do with this assertion of foreign interference in the Whitehouse. Had he been removed it would have been a coup and the source of the lie came from Obama. However, Obama did this as President and I don't know if the DOJ has jurisdiction on prosecuting a president for crimes committed while in office. I think the Supreme Court has already ruled they don't. Therefore if Obama is going to be prosecuted, I think it would have to be for treason by a military tribunal.
 
They are about to release this or may have already but since this is your thread I'll go ahead and give you it so you can read it. https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docu...-Report-Manufactured-Russia-Hoax-July2025.pdf
After a quick perusal of this document I have changed my opinion. This is not some trivial dump designed to distract the public. We are talking about an attempted coup by what can be called the deep state, or "black hats". I don't really see how anything can be more serious than this. I would agree that Epstein is a very big case and everyone on that list needs to be prosecuted, but I think this case with Obama is every bit as big as that.

I would also point out that they should have much more information than simply the Epstein list. The island was set up to videotape everything, there must be thousands of hours of videotape. A honey pot is designed for blackmail and unless the video and audio is very clear it wouldn't be effective for blackmail.

But let's return to Obama. If you tie the CIA into the assassination of JFK and Martin Luther King Jr it proves this is in their wheelhouse and it tarnishes Obama with the Black community who will be offended by him being aligned with the killers of MLK Jr. Now combine all of this with the two assassination attempts on Trump and you can see this is not a distraction, there is a no holds barred battle going on between "white hats" and "black hats" (think the Bloods vs the Crips).

My guess is that this ties into the Epstein investigation as there are many people impacted by that investigation willing to trade a coup by Obama and that they are using it behind the scenes to get the goods on this other crime.
 
You don't know what you are talking about. The intelligence community had already done 15 reports on this question concluding that Russia was not involved and could not be involved. Obama ordered a revision to the report to be done which concluded the opposite. By all accounts it is the least credible of the 16 reports. Obama then declassified the least credible report and only that report giving the false impression that the intelligence community was agreed on this conclusion when in reality the opposite was true.

The issue is not whether someone suggested that there might have been Russian collusion, nor is the issue that they investigated it. The issue is that this report seems to be a complete fabrication, that it was ordered by Obama despite the intelligence community already having done 15 previous investigations debunking the assertion and then Obama declassified the one bogus report while leaving the other 15 classified so that there was a false perception that the intelligence community had come to this conclusion which was a bald faced lie. He released this report after Trump had already been elected giving the media a fig leaf they could hide behind as they attacked the Trump administration with this lie which had Obama's seal of approval. This then became the basis for Trump's first impeachment, which if successful would have removed a sitting president based on a fabricated lie that Obama pushed, that by definition is a coup.

If Obama had released all 16 reports he could claim he was being transparent and that he simply wanted to put the concerns to rest. But by only releasing one and keeping 15 classified he put his seal of approval on that one. He is guilty of being the source of this lie which undermined the President of the US for a year. This is not trivial as the reason Trump was impeached the first time had to do with this assertion of foreign interference in the Whitehouse. Had he been removed it would have been a coup and the source of the lie came from Obama. However, Obama did this as President and I don't know if the DOJ has jurisdiction on prosecuting a president for crimes committed while in office. I think the Supreme Court has already ruled they don't. Therefore if Obama is going to be prosecuted, I think it would have to be for treason by a military tribunal.
Yeah, that's not treason
Also, Cheeto Messiah was not impeached on anything having to do with russia. He was impeached for obstruction with Ukraine and for inciting insurrection on the second impeachment.
But if we're prosecuting Obama for attempting a coup why are we not prosecuting Trump for seditious conspiracy.
 
You don't know what you are talking about. The intelligence community had already done 15 reports on this question concluding that Russia was not involved and could not be involved. Obama ordered a revision to the report to be done which concluded the opposite. By all accounts it is the least credible of the 16 reports. Obama then declassified the least credible report and only that report giving the false impression that the intelligence community was agreed on this conclusion when in reality the opposite was true.

The issue is not whether someone suggested that there might have been Russian collusion, nor is the issue that they investigated it. The issue is that this report seems to be a complete fabrication, that it was ordered by Obama despite the intelligence community already having done 15 previous investigations debunking the assertion and then Obama declassified the one bogus report while leaving the other 15 classified so that there was a false perception that the intelligence community had come to this conclusion which was a bald faced lie. He released this report after Trump had already been elected giving the media a fig leaf they could hide behind as they attacked the Trump administration with this lie which had Obama's seal of approval. This then became the basis for Trump's first impeachment, which if successful would have removed a sitting president based on a fabricated lie that Obama pushed, that by definition is a coup.

If Obama had released all 16 reports he could claim he was being transparent and that he simply wanted to put the concerns to rest. But by only releasing one and keeping 15 classified he put his seal of approval on that one. He is guilty of being the source of this lie which undermined the President of the US for a year. This is not trivial as the reason Trump was impeached the first time had to do with this assertion of foreign interference in the Whitehouse. Had he been removed it would have been a coup and the source of the lie came from Obama. However, Obama did this as President and I don't know if the DOJ has jurisdiction on prosecuting a president for crimes committed while in office. I think the Supreme Court has already ruled they don't. Therefore if Obama is going to be prosecuted, I think it would have to be for treason by a military tribunal.

This is way beyond precedence and beyond what’s beyond that as well. Good luck with the prosecution.
 
It all depends on who’s the one defining what treason is.
A coup is the unlawful seizure of power from a government. That is what they attempted to do with the first impeachment.

Then consider the second impeachment, that was designed to make sure Trump never came to office again because they knew if he did they would be doomed. That failed so then we saw the lawfare, that failed, so then we saw two assassination attempts.

Pretty sure that definitely rises to the level of treason, but I suspect they will let a military tribunal decide.
 
A coup is the unlawful seizure of power from a government. That is what they attempted to do with the first impeachment.

Then consider the second impeachment, that was designed to make sure Trump never came to office again because they knew if he did they would be doomed. That failed so then we saw the lawfare, that failed, so then we saw two assassination attempts.

Pretty sure that definitely rises to the level of treason, but I suspect they will let a military tribunal decide.

Beyond a reasonable doubt much?
 
This is way beyond precedence and beyond what’s beyond that as well. Good luck with the prosecution.
I don't think you have put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

1. JFK assassination -- tie that to the CIA

2. RFK assassination -- tie that to the CIA

3. Watergate -- this can also be tied to the CIA as a way to remove Nixon

4. Obama laying the groundwork to impeach Trump with this lie

5. After the first impeachment failed they impeached him a second time despite him already being out of office as a way to prevent him from returning in four years.

6. When that didn't work they used lawfare.

7. When that didn't work they had two assassination attempts.

I expect there is a lot more information collected by the White hats than just what we have seen so far, but yes, put all the puzzle pieces together and you have terminal cancer.