Is death hiding everlasting Life from carnal minds?

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Do cherubim use death to hide life?
Was lucifer the top cherub?
Is he still one, but fallen?
Could the rest of the fallen angels be cherub?
Did they abuse death and make themselves think it was ok to go against God?
 
As long as we acknowledge? There's your free will doctrine. You're not saved unless you do something, either accept or acknowledge or somehow get your sins on the cross.

Good luck with it.
 
Did they eat from the Tree of Knowledge?
Was death like a drug to them?
How many angels does it take to hide the Tree of Life?
Are all the cherubim flushed out of Heaven now, but they continue to hide the Tree of Life because they want to?
 
pittsburghjoe said:
Is satan one of the placed cherubim that hide the Tree of Life?
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It seems that you are rather confused about this matter. No. Satan was NOT one of the cherubim (holy angels). And the tree of life and the Paradise of God are now in Heaven.

But Satan knew that the wages of sin are death, so he tried to deceive Eve into sinning. And she caused Adam to sin (but he was still fully responsible for his disobedience). God allowed sin, evil, and death to enter into the world because He had a plan of redemption which would supersede creation and the Fall.

There is no such thing as a "dead freewill spirit" but perhaps what you mean is that all humans are spiritually dead when they are born, therefore all need to be born again. And this is true. Jesus said "You MUST be born again".
 
OrphanedRepublican said:
As long as we acknowledge? There's your free will doctrine. You're not saved unless you do something, either accept or acknowledge or somehow get your sins on the cross.

Good luck with it.
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If you acknowledge ..then getting God into your life goes with it (opened the door). You need your spirit to make a connection to God. The Free Will stuff just doesn't matter when there is a Judgement Day.
 
Ezekiel 28:16-17
By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Covering cherub = obstructing presence

sounds like an illusion to me
 
pittsburghjoe said:
Is there something preventing one of the cherubim from going dark and becoming the beast? Does it strike anyone odd that Judaism doesn't acknowledge satan like we do?
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No, because "satan" is not a proper name in the Old Testament.
 
Ezekiel is OT ..curious. Is it telling us he was satan at this point? I can't figure out why they didn't name him here.
 
When God placed cherubim to hide the Tree of Life ..was it the same as casting satan and the rest of fallen angels to earth?

Is there such thing as a good cherub?
 
How else does a good God hide the Tree of Life? He had a batch of self-corrupted angels that could do it. God isn't responsible for their fall so there isn't a rule that says He isn't allowed to put them to "work".

Is it why fallen angels didn't go straight to a lake of fire?
 
Does each town have it's own fallen angle (cherub) causing the illusion?

12 Then he said to me, "Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and on humbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words.

13 "But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.

—Daniel 10:12–13, NIV
 
2ndTimothyGroup said:
Luke 11:50-51 NIV - 50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.

Abel's Heart was clearly Circumcised by Christ. Abel was totally Purified, just as any True Prophet.
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All believers have a new heart. It's for everyone, not just prophets.

As for the definition of "Fed" . . . not to be rude, but I explained it already. Sorry.
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Well, not to be rude would mean exlain it again. I have no problem repeating myself if someone didn't get or understand a post.

But that's just me.
 
TheIndianGirl said:
Since most of humanity is going to hell based on traditional view, why didn't God bring Judgement Day sooner (rather than later) to prevent more people from going to hell? Does the Bible say anything about this?
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The Bible is clear that no one has an excuse for not recognizing God as Creator and being thankful to Him, from Rom 1:19-21.

From that, those who do respond accordingly, God is "not far from any of us", per Acts 17:26-27
26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

No one is "prevented from going to hell". Everyone who will be cast into the lake of fire did so by their own decisions. They didn't accept the free gift.
 
Could you explain how you think a person is saved and going to heaven?

Thanks.
OrphanedRepublican said:
Querry:

If salvation is offered to all people, why is there hell?
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Are you not able to answer my question?

As to your question, mankind is FREE to accept or reject the gospel. And God has always known who will and who won't.

That's why.

Now, on to my question that you didn't answer.

Thanks.
 
pittsburghjoe said:
The only thing that matters in this reality is getting your sins on The Cross somehow.
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What?! That's not up to us. Christ died for ALL sins of ALL people. It's already been done.

That is why Jesus' last words on the cross was: "It is finished", which in the Greek means "paid in FULL".

Your "reality" is not the reality of the Bible.
 
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