Is Donald J. Trump Saved?

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HealthAndHappiness

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GRACE_ambassador said:
Thanks Be Unto God That "He Is The [ Only ] Righteous Judge Of all"...

...it certainly isn't me, just getting The Gospel Of Grace to those in need,
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The Blessed Holy Spirit "Takes Over", eh?

Amen.
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Yes, I believe that the Holy Spirit and His Word have the power to get the wealthy saved. Romans 1:2o, John 16:8-11

Not many rich get saved, but we will continue to pray that someone gets a clear gospel message to him. Someone was able to reach Joseph of Arimathea. This close call at the Pennsylvania speech might have humbled him.
 
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But Biden and kamala pass? Get the heck out of here. 🤣
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Hey guys,

Just a clarification that the question at hand was not whether anyone believed that Pres. Biden or VP Harris were saved. That's such a lame argument when someone deflects a question with the old tried and true, "but look at what someone else has done!"

The question was whether or not anyone believes that the GOP contender is saved. That's all. Whether Pres. Biden or Billy's dog is saved doesn't really apply as an answer to the question.

For myself, based on his personal testimony of his need for forgiveness, I definitely don't believe that he has a clue what God's salvation is all about.

God bless,
Ted
 
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Mark 9
38John said to Him, “Teacher, we saw someone else driving out demons in Your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not accompany us.”

39“Do not stop him,” Jesus replied. “For no one who performs a miracle in My name can turn around and speak evil of Me. 40For whoever is not against us is for us. 41Indeed, if anyone gives you even a cup of water because you bear the name of Christ, truly I tell you, he will never lose his reward.
 
hornetguy

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
I believe Harris leans toward Marxism,
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She doesn't just "lean".... she is full blown Marxist. She makes Biden and Bernie Sanders look rather conservative....

Make no mistake, she's a danger to our system of government, and will radically change it, if elected. Look at her voting record in the senate, and listen to all her interviews, etc.... her beliefs are frightening.
 
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tedincarolina said:
Hey guys,

Just a clarification that the question at hand was not whether anyone believed that Pres. Biden or VP Harris were saved. That's such a lame argument when someone deflects a question with the old tried and true, "but look at what someone else has done!"

The question was whether or not anyone believes that the GOP contender is saved. That's all. Whether Pres. Biden or Billy's dog is saved doesn't really apply as an answer to the question.

For myself, based on his personal testimony of his need for forgiveness, I definitely don't believe that he has a clue what God's salvation is all about.

God bless,
Ted
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So, in reality, all you want to do is bash Trump... you are not interested in discussion, just bashing.... got it.
 
JohnDB

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The huge amounts of Character Assassination is why I can't stand politics.
Where I'm not ignorant of them that by no means that I like them or wish to join in with the political process.
We don't know these people personally. We only know what we see and hear. And we should only believe half of what we see and nothing we hear.

That being said....
Yes, Kamala is a person that promotes Socialism/Marxism and wants to muzzle free speech. (As much as she is permitted in the USA....which is not much)

Trump?
Somewhat personally A-moral in that he is harsh and brash at times as is everyonecfrom NY/NJ area. Not much of a refined statesman. As such he has been targeted.
 
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tedincarolina

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hornetguy said:
So, in reality, all you want to do is bash Trump... you are not interested in discussion, just bashing.... got it.
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Hey @hornetguy

What?? I'm sorry, did I not answer some question that you put to me? I write one post and immediately condemned as not up for discussion on the matter. Really???? That seems like a fair assessment to you, does it?

Ok.

God bless and hey, vote wisely,
Ted
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
My original post wasn't intended to bash Trump. I pray that he survives, that election fraud is foiled, and he gets into office.
It was intended to answer the question that has come up in the past.
I have 3 reasons why I don't believe he is saved according to the Bible.
I'm praying that God sends someone who will share the gospel with him.
Romans 10:8-

I don't use one's salvation as a prerequisite for voting for a politician, but he answered the question.

It seems like those who read my post may have misunderstood.
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He was talking again yesterday about the close call of almost being shot. He acknowledges it was a miracle. I know people who know him personally that say he is saved. IDK because I don't know him personally. But he has had enough people praying for him, enough Christians around him to make him consider God. He was very quiet after the shooting. The problem is that Trump has talked about Jesus being Savior but people who hate Trump will say he's just doing it for votes. So, you're judging him. It would be great if all our leader were Christians, but that's not the way it is, sadly.
 
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That there are people that would give Harris the power of executive order is unsettling
 
HealthAndHappiness

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
He was talking again yesterday about the close call of almost being shot. He acknowledges it was a miracle. I know people who know him personally that say he is saved. IDK because I don't know him personally. But he has had enough people praying for him, enough Christians around him to make him consider God. He was very quiet after the shooting. The problem is that Trump has talked about Jesus being Savior but people who hate Trump will say he's just doing it for votes. So, you're judging him. It would be great if all our leader were Christians, but that's not the way it is, sadly.
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Yes, I'm judging him as I'm commanded to, in the sense of determining whether or not he has placed his faith completely in Christ or mixing grace with works. As the videos I've posted show, he gave testimony of his faith in works. Did you see those? One is in the OP and the other is the full context from Fox news in my second post if I remember correctly.
I'm not judging his lifestyle, behavior or whether or not he did enough good or bad. That's what he is trusting in. We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
Yes, I'm judging him as I'm commanded to,
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No I wasn't talking about you specifically, I thought that was clear.


HealthAndHappiness said:
in the sense of determining whether or not he has placed his faith completely in Christ or mixing grace with works
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Ha! I can't even try with the BDF. Go there and try to make sense with them. smh



HealthAndHappiness said:
. As the videos I've posted show, he gave testimony of his faith in works. Did you see those? One is in the OP and the other is the full context from Fox news in my second post if I remember correctly.
I'm not judging his lifestyle, behavior or whether or not he did enough good or bad. That's what he is trusting in. We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
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If Trump is a Christian, he's a new Christian. A head knowledge and a heart knowledge are two different things. People raised in Catholic and other churches like that, it's hard for them to understand that good works don't save them. I don't expect a new Christian to have the understanding people that have been on the road for years have.
 
HealthAndHappiness

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No I wasn't talking about you specifically, I thought that was clear.




Ha! I can't even try with the BDF. Go there and try to make sense with them. smh





If Trump is a Christian, he's a new Christian. A head knowledge and a heart knowledge are two different things. People raised in Catholic and other churches like that, it's hard for them to understand that good works don't save them. I don't expect a new Christian to have the understanding people that have been on the road for years have.
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I know what you mean. The libs are always talking smack about Trump while they can't see around the Phone pole in the other side of their face.
 
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hornetguy said:
She doesn't just "lean".... she is full blown Marxist. She makes Biden and Bernie Sanders look rather conservative....

Make no mistake, she's a danger to our system of government, and will radically change it, if elected. Look at her voting record in the senate, and listen to all her interviews, etc.... her beliefs are frightening.
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Fully concur with your estimate. God help the USA if she wins.
 
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Chuckle!!!! It wouldn't surprise me if he was a born again Christian. I'll ask later when I KNOW even as I am known. I DO wish he'd SHUT UP, and just run the country.
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For him to run the country he first has to get elected. He does run his mouth at times though.
 
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