Predestination can only be executed with the ability to see the future, i.e. the end result.
Let's assume in the beginning, God planned to create x number of people, knowing how each of us would turn out based on our actions in response to His.
Being able to see the end before creation, He chose to proceed with it because the end result brings Him, and fairly: us, pleasure.
Thus we are predestined in that we were allowed to come into existence and manifest our individual free will which He foresaw. He knows which one of us would become Y'Shua, He knows which of us will be elect, He knows which of us will finish with mediocrity, which of us will never get it without seeing His face, etc.
What we become is what we individually must become, in order to understand the power of free will and how to executed it without chaos. We get to choose that "what", and He predestined us when He allowed it.
Trying to escape your free will is actually a manifestation of your free will.
Example (pardon the liberties Father): "If I make these particular x billion people, my idea of a perfect son will arise from them in the year ~4000. And the maximum number of others who can as a result become His elect "bride" will do so within the next y number of years. That'll work. Let there be..."
A cosmic rapist would be a god who created any human being with the foreknowledge that he or she would eventually become eternal torture fodder, even if by choice of free will, and to somehow say the plan "is good."
I submit that if "John Doe" were doomed to eternal torment before he was created, he would not have been created by the Elohim I know as YHWH.
As far as a certain number of "elect", "lost", etc., well that was up to each of us before we were "spawned".
Each of us can say: "Before Abraham was, I am" we just don't think about it.
I submit that if it were necessary for any number of others to have been created for the purpose of suffering, so that the rest could be saved, He went with the smallest possible number, which meant the cream of the crop: Y'Shua. In a perfect plan their is no necessity for billions to go to eternal torment, nor be annihilated.
"...to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind..."
Since we are able and commissioned to believe in the most righteous God who's perfect will is to be done, what holds us back?
Tradition? Mistranslated words and symbols made into graven images?
What is your image of YHWH?
All of us are "raped" spiritually by each other, not YHWH. But most do dare to accuse Him and call Him "deceiver." Even rapist.
Let's assume in the beginning, God planned to create x number of people, knowing how each of us would turn out based on our actions in response to His.
Being able to see the end before creation, He chose to proceed with it because the end result brings Him, and fairly: us, pleasure.
Thus we are predestined in that we were allowed to come into existence and manifest our individual free will which He foresaw. He knows which one of us would become Y'Shua, He knows which of us will be elect, He knows which of us will finish with mediocrity, which of us will never get it without seeing His face, etc.
What we become is what we individually must become, in order to understand the power of free will and how to executed it without chaos. We get to choose that "what", and He predestined us when He allowed it.
Trying to escape your free will is actually a manifestation of your free will.
Example (pardon the liberties Father): "If I make these particular x billion people, my idea of a perfect son will arise from them in the year ~4000. And the maximum number of others who can as a result become His elect "bride" will do so within the next y number of years. That'll work. Let there be..."
A cosmic rapist would be a god who created any human being with the foreknowledge that he or she would eventually become eternal torture fodder, even if by choice of free will, and to somehow say the plan "is good."
I submit that if "John Doe" were doomed to eternal torment before he was created, he would not have been created by the Elohim I know as YHWH.
As far as a certain number of "elect", "lost", etc., well that was up to each of us before we were "spawned".
Each of us can say: "Before Abraham was, I am" we just don't think about it.
I submit that if it were necessary for any number of others to have been created for the purpose of suffering, so that the rest could be saved, He went with the smallest possible number, which meant the cream of the crop: Y'Shua. In a perfect plan their is no necessity for billions to go to eternal torment, nor be annihilated.
"...to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind..."
Since we are able and commissioned to believe in the most righteous God who's perfect will is to be done, what holds us back?
Tradition? Mistranslated words and symbols made into graven images?
What is your image of YHWH?
All of us are "raped" spiritually by each other, not YHWH. But most do dare to accuse Him and call Him "deceiver." Even rapist.
