Is God All-knowing?
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But no one claimed eternal preservation in heaven as is on earth.
The bible was written by men as they were inspired by God and then translated by men into different languages and versions. So there might seem to be some variations here and there but the core message remains one being Jesus is God. No disputing that.
The original biblical text was not in chapters and verses, it was arranged after man invented chapters and verses. This shows openness and sincerity on our part.
Unlike Muslims claims, the Quran is preserved in heaven with chapters and verses, something that is known to be a human invention.
now I tell you sth, Whenever A Quranic verse would be revealed to Prophet, he would call some specific people dedicated to this work and they would write in Parchments, the prophet will tell them what surah the verse is part of and where to place it in with reference to other verses of same surah. later on these parchments were collected during the Government of third caliph and bonded in one single Book. We even have that first copy of Quran, do you have the first copy of Bible?
If you rape someone, you are not obeying God. It is a serious offence to God. How many women have you raped in the name of Allah?
And regret is not going to get you right with God. Are you regretting you got caught? Instead, we repent. That means to turn from our sin. We turn away from our sin. That does not mean we are perfect, but it does mean we are being sanctified, or made holy.
Because you do not read the Bible, you do not understand that salvation has three stages.
1. Justification -made right in God's eyes because of our faith in Jesus Christ. See Romans 5:1
2. Sanctification. Being made holy. We are not perfect on the outside, but we are walking with God. 2 Thess. 2:13
3. Glorification - when Christ returns he will glorify us, make us perfect and whole. Romans 8:30
So, God saves us through faith in Christ. The Holy Spirit walks with us every day, changing and transforming us into the image of God. 2 Cor 3:18.
When Jesus returns, he will make us perfect. We are not perfect, but Jesus WAS perfect, and his sacrifice in the cross saves us. When he returns, we will be made perfect!
As for your clever little line at the end, I see you don't speak English well. God the child is NOT an inversion of Child of God. The first is an apostrophe, adding information, the second is genitive case, indicating belonging. The word "of" gives that away. I would show you in Greek, but since you can barely write in English, I won't trouble you with the original languages.
You may think yourself bold, coming here with your total lack of knowledge of the Bible, your lack of understanding of plain English, but what I see is a fool, way out of his depth.
Please read the New Testament in your own language or English. You will learn more about Jesus being God, than here, since you do not have the integrity to read our replies.
It is a false claim from beginning not unless your god needed to reference texts/ verses in his Quran in heaven. Otherwise it is clear, it was revealed by man by copying the already existing scriptures.
Bahahahaha! More comedy.
Let's take just one assertion from the Quran: Surah 4, v. 3 "you may marry whichever women seem good to you; two, three or four."
Already that is falsehood, for marriage is one man and one woman, not one man and two, three or four women. Your prophet had how many wives? Eleven? He obviously didn't think much of the words he spoke. Why should anyone else?
By chapter and verses, it means, the names of chapters, like
What I said, God The Child, or Child of God?
and ofc, when someone has nothing, personal attacks work best. Looks like people here doing there best at it.
Lol, have you read Quran? Quran addresses the issue itself, no need for me to explain
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Surah 4 verse 3.
don't misquote
Surah 4 verse 3.
don't misquote
well, when Mohammed came along and polluted it..
and then Bakr had all the originals destroyed..
but before that, it was oral history passed down through Ishmael, preserving some of the things written in Genesis in the memory of Arab gentiles.
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how does that fit in with kidnapping virgins and passing them around?
how does that fit in with forcing young girls who are even too young to have a child?
not too suitable then I'm thinking
Nope. I don't think your god revealed the Quran to Mohammed like ".. Surah 1, verse 1, blah blah blah..., verse 2, blah blah blah...., surah 2, verse 1, blah blah..."
It must have been just a block of text (words) if there was revelation at all. But i'm determining that there was no revelation at all because a man sat down (probably Mohamed and his cronies) and decided it was better to be presented to others as chapters and verses.
So the claims that it is eternally preserved in heaven and free from human intervention falls flat.
lets move to the next one.
You believe whatever you want, nothing changes that. No Muslim says Quran was not revealed like surah 1 verse 1
I am sorry, if it wasn't part of history, I won't know it.
I do know of burning of copies, but they weren't original.
It wasn't. Uthman destroyed most of the copies, ensuring that later generations would never know what was written in them. Further, it was acknowledged that some portions were lost because they had been committed to memory by people who were killed before passing them on.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste more time arguing why the Quran is untrustworthy; I've already demonstrated that.