Is homosexuality so bad?? Its like high school drama...
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I don't believe people are born gay. One of my best friends growing up has struggled with homosexuality. He didn't start liking men until the idea was impressed upon him by people telling him he was gay. Now, he considers himself straight, but he is in love with a man, and says this is the only man he would be gay for. I also don't believe people are born with sloth, or lust, or gluttony, or any of the others, but that our environment does shape us to have these qualities. If we find ourselves overcome with sloth, we can work above it and push ourselves to exercize or be less lazy. If we find ourselves having feelings for people of the same gender, we can overcome that by ignoring those feelings.
Some of my best friends say they are gay, but honestly, I don't believe them. I think part of it is for attention, part of it is because they were called gay so much they started believing it, part of it is they fell in love with the personality of someone of the same gender and confuse it with lust and sexuality. Some people can look at someone of the same gender and say, "Wow, they are really handsome/beautiful", appreciate that person's looks, and move on. However, there are those who think to themselves, I find that person attractive, does that mean I'm gay?
God promised us he would never give us more than we could handle, he would never put an obstacle in our path that we couldn't overcome with His help. I think homosexuality is just one of those obstacles. Mind you, I'm an Episcopalian, a religion who is known for it's tolerance for homosexuality to the point we even have an openly gay bishop. I still think it's wrong to be gay, but I don't think you are condemned if you are. I would rather we let openly homosexual people into our churches, teach them the same as we would teach or allow any other sinner, not make them feel outcast because of their sin, but a part of the family, and help them repent rather than call them abominations or shun them. God asks us to love, not judge.
Some of my best friends say they are gay, but honestly, I don't believe them. I think part of it is for attention, part of it is because they were called gay so much they started believing it, part of it is they fell in love with the personality of someone of the same gender and confuse it with lust and sexuality. Some people can look at someone of the same gender and say, "Wow, they are really handsome/beautiful", appreciate that person's looks, and move on. However, there are those who think to themselves, I find that person attractive, does that mean I'm gay?
God promised us he would never give us more than we could handle, he would never put an obstacle in our path that we couldn't overcome with His help. I think homosexuality is just one of those obstacles. Mind you, I'm an Episcopalian, a religion who is known for it's tolerance for homosexuality to the point we even have an openly gay bishop. I still think it's wrong to be gay, but I don't think you are condemned if you are. I would rather we let openly homosexual people into our churches, teach them the same as we would teach or allow any other sinner, not make them feel outcast because of their sin, but a part of the family, and help them repent rather than call them abominations or shun them. God asks us to love, not judge.
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I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior on October 23, 2003 and I was delivered from homosexuality. Once I was delivered, I began to understand how this was an abomination to God. I will make a long story short. When God created man and woman, He created them to procreate. Which means to reproduce. Two men together nor can two women together procreate. The only relationship God is pleased with is that between a man and a woman.
We as believers also have to see the plan of Satan in this. Whatever God does the enemy tries to imitate by defiling what God has already done. Satan cannot get the credit for creation, but he can get the credit for defiling a human being through homosexuality.
As we see in our society today the homosexual agenda is getting stronger. Our very own President is behind this. As quoted by Pastor G. Craige Lewis.."This man is on a mission. What's his mission? To free the homosexuals and lesbians in America and make their lifestyles accepted by all with no moral code of conduct from God interfering with it. He wants to silence the church and make them accept an antichrist agenda.
This is a serious matter because if you haven't heard already, our president has named the month of June "Gay, Lesbian, BiSexual, and Transgender month" in America. For the first time in history a president has deemed sexually deviant behavior as normal and given them a month to celebrate."
In this last and evil days we have to recognize the plan of the enemy. The Bible said he will not have a desire for women. By nature, Satan is homosexual.
This may be too deep for some of you. I pray that you open your heart to what God is trying to tell the church in the last days.
Love you all and be blessed!
We as believers also have to see the plan of Satan in this. Whatever God does the enemy tries to imitate by defiling what God has already done. Satan cannot get the credit for creation, but he can get the credit for defiling a human being through homosexuality.
As we see in our society today the homosexual agenda is getting stronger. Our very own President is behind this. As quoted by Pastor G. Craige Lewis.."This man is on a mission. What's his mission? To free the homosexuals and lesbians in America and make their lifestyles accepted by all with no moral code of conduct from God interfering with it. He wants to silence the church and make them accept an antichrist agenda.
This is a serious matter because if you haven't heard already, our president has named the month of June "Gay, Lesbian, BiSexual, and Transgender month" in America. For the first time in history a president has deemed sexually deviant behavior as normal and given them a month to celebrate."
In this last and evil days we have to recognize the plan of the enemy. The Bible said he will not have a desire for women. By nature, Satan is homosexual.
This may be too deep for some of you. I pray that you open your heart to what God is trying to tell the church in the last days.
Love you all and be blessed!
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Thank you Faithwarrior, for your words of trueth. You just told why many I know are calling Obama the antichrist.
Harley_Angel, I agree to helping any sinner to find God. Thing is they have to be open to it.
Harley_Angel, I agree to helping any sinner to find God. Thing is they have to be open to it.
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Congratulations Faithwarrior on overcoming your trial. I understand what you are saying, about satan imitating what God has created. God created love between a man and woman, and satan corrupted it by convincing us that a man and a man or a woman and a woman could truly love one another. I do believe two men can love one another as lovers do, but they would never be able to love each other as God intended. I've been told several times that a gay person can't be anything but gay because they don't have sexual desires for woman (or men). I call that hogwash. God never said we had to have sex or that we had to get married or even that we had to find a person in this life to love in the way that we would want to marry them. A gay person could easily chose abstinence if it meant not engaging in homosexual activity, and I've seen plenty of straight people live their lives without a husband or wife or companion. It's all so subtle, these lies, these misconceptions. They mirror the truth so well, it's hard to see past the illusion that homosexuality is okay, and at times, it's hard to accept that God is so against it he even destroyed cities for their corruption (I'm well aware homosexuality wasn't the ONLY cause of their destructions). But still, we allow these lies to glaze our eyes and to make invisible the very black and white law of God.
Which idiot thinks that President Obama is the antichrist?. This what the bible says about the Antichrist. The antichrist will deny "that Jesus is the Christ", "the Father and the Son", and would "not confess Jesus came in the flesh. In no way did President Obama utter these words( 1 John: 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.) Secondly Paul gives us a detailed description of the antchrist in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 .Paul uses the term man of sin to describe the Antichrist.Paul writes that this Man of Sin, will possess a number of characteristics. These include "sitting in the temple", opposing himself against anything that is worshiped, claiming divine authority, working all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs, and doing all kinds of evil. Did President Obama do any of these things ???
By naming the month of June ,"Gay, Lesbian, BiSexual, and Transgender month", it does not mean that he agrees with them. All he is doing is to make sure that all citizens under his leadership have their rights procteted.
By naming the month of June ,"Gay, Lesbian, BiSexual, and Transgender month", it does not mean that he agrees with them. All he is doing is to make sure that all citizens under his leadership have their rights procteted.
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Avoca1, no one said that Obama is the antichrist. His agendas that he is pushing forth is paving the way for the antichrist. You are a child of God right..using a word call "idiot" is less than christlike. These forums are used to express people views and opinions. If you do not like something someone has said. Address in a respectful manner---I think Jesus would want us to do so. Love you and be blessed!
Why do you think the anti Christ will pop up in the USA? Americans who say Obama is the anti christ don't you realise there is a whole other world outside of your own country? Jesus wasn't born there, it doesn't have the bible history of the Israelites, it isn't even mentioned in bible prophecy, what on earth makes people think the anti Christ wants anything to do with a free peace loving (sic) democratic country like the USA? I know you think highly of your own country but I hope you won't be disappointed if you aren't at centre stage in the end times.
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I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THESE SUPER CHRISTIANS WHOM SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EXPRESSING THEIR MESSAGES ABOUT SIN AND SHORT COMMINGS.
USEING GODS WORD TO JUDGE AND CONDEM IS NOT OUR MISSION IN THIS WORLD.
I THINK PETER FOUND THIS OUT WHEN JESUS HAD A (TIME OUT) WITH HIM.
OUR FIRST MISSION IS TO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS AND TO SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD .
THE CHURCH HAS WEEKNESSES ,THIS ONE ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY AND HOW TO FIGHT AGAINST IT IS ONE OF MANY AND IT DIVIDES THE CHURCH AND ITS PERSPECTIVE.
THATS THE REAL ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE PRAYED ABOUT.
THOSE THING THAT GOD DIS LIKES AND EVEN HATES ARE WELL PUBLISHED IN HIS WORD BUT HOW MANY OF US SPEAK ABOUT WHAT PLEASES HIM?
ALL HAVE SINNED AND HAVE COME SHORT ALL SHOULD BE JUDGED AND CONDEMED.
BY WHAT WORK OF OUR HANDS DID WE FREE OURSELVES FROM JUDGEMENT?
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PRAYER AND SEEKING GOD SHOULD BE OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENCE.
TO HUMBLE OURSELVES IS TO SUBMIT TO THE LORD AND TO LISTEN TO HIS HOLY SPIRIT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL , AS PAUL SIAD TO TIMMOTHY ....BE TACKFUL
SUPER CHRISTIANS HAVE NO PART IN THE REAL CHURCH JESUS LOOKED AT THE HEART
IAM NOT SAYING TO EMBRACE THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO HERE THE GOOD NEWS AND REPENT
BUT TO PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMY HELL IS A VERY REAL AND SORROWFUL PLACE, YOUR ADVASARY IS VARY CRAFTY DONT LOOSE SIGHT OF YOUR MISSION AS A CHILD OF GOD. BASHING PEOPLE BECOMES PRIDEFUL NEED I SAY MORE?
USEING GODS WORD TO JUDGE AND CONDEM IS NOT OUR MISSION IN THIS WORLD.
I THINK PETER FOUND THIS OUT WHEN JESUS HAD A (TIME OUT) WITH HIM.
OUR FIRST MISSION IS TO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS AND TO SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD .
THE CHURCH HAS WEEKNESSES ,THIS ONE ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY AND HOW TO FIGHT AGAINST IT IS ONE OF MANY AND IT DIVIDES THE CHURCH AND ITS PERSPECTIVE.
THATS THE REAL ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE PRAYED ABOUT.
THOSE THING THAT GOD DIS LIKES AND EVEN HATES ARE WELL PUBLISHED IN HIS WORD BUT HOW MANY OF US SPEAK ABOUT WHAT PLEASES HIM?
ALL HAVE SINNED AND HAVE COME SHORT ALL SHOULD BE JUDGED AND CONDEMED.
BY WHAT WORK OF OUR HANDS DID WE FREE OURSELVES FROM JUDGEMENT?
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT PRAYER AND SEEKING GOD SHOULD BE OUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENCE.
TO HUMBLE OURSELVES IS TO SUBMIT TO THE LORD AND TO LISTEN TO HIS HOLY SPIRIT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL , AS PAUL SIAD TO TIMMOTHY ....BE TACKFUL
SUPER CHRISTIANS HAVE NO PART IN THE REAL CHURCH JESUS LOOKED AT THE HEART
IAM NOT SAYING TO EMBRACE THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO HERE THE GOOD NEWS AND REPENT
BUT TO PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMY HELL IS A VERY REAL AND SORROWFUL PLACE, YOUR ADVASARY IS VARY CRAFTY DONT LOOSE SIGHT OF YOUR MISSION AS A CHILD OF GOD. BASHING PEOPLE BECOMES PRIDEFUL NEED I SAY MORE?
Thanks for pointing this out. However I'm sure no one here is condemning homosexuals. We are instead pointing out that homosexuality is a sin, just as other sins. We as Christians should accept homosexuals, but not their homosexual lifestyle.
"How many of us speak about what pleases Him?" How can we please God if we ignore to read the Bible and believe in His Word? How can we please Him if we disregard the Bible and instead go with what we feel to be right?
And when a fellow Christian is misguided about what God says about certain lifestyles--homosexuality, in the case of this thread--we should help them get in track. Are we wrong to point out when a fellow Christian takes the Bible out of context? Should we just turn a blind eye when we see our fellow Christians walking in the wrong path?
"How many of us speak about what pleases Him?" How can we please God if we ignore to read the Bible and believe in His Word? How can we please Him if we disregard the Bible and instead go with what we feel to be right?
And when a fellow Christian is misguided about what God says about certain lifestyles--homosexuality, in the case of this thread--we should help them get in track. Are we wrong to point out when a fellow Christian takes the Bible out of context? Should we just turn a blind eye when we see our fellow Christians walking in the wrong path?
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