Is it Biblically permissive to beat one's wife?

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Have not read the 279 Comments or the OP, but the Title alone makes me very sad to believe that it would be posted here on CC.

I can NOT believe anyone professing to be a Christian would even consider asking the question, but, that may just be me........
 
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BrokenSparrow said:
Guys I think you know, what married couples choose to do in the bedroom is not the topic of this thread. And it's not something that needs to be discussed in regards to this thread.

The question posed is... "Is it biblically permissive to beat one's wife?"

This a serious and even dangerous issue for some women. This isn't something that anyone should take lightly.

In reality, abuse does happen in some marriages. Some women have to walk on egg shells around their husbands for fear of what he might do. Never knowing when she is going to be berated, yelled at, cursed, or hit for doing something he didn't like or agree with...like maybe cooking steak not knowing he wanted chicken, talking too much or not talking enough, being too happy or not being happy enough etc. etc. ect. or whatever depending upon his mood. Constantly worried and living in fear never knowing what might set him off.
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I don't think we have any pro-beating posters here, unless some posters are in favor of bedroom spankings and do not come right out and say it. But even the 'domestic discipline' subculture folks and BDSM people would probably be against the Duluth Model/Lifetime Movie badguy husband you describe above.
 
presidente said:
I don't think we have any pro-beating posters here, unless some posters are in favor of bedroom spankings and do not come right out and say it. But even the 'domestic discipline' subculture folks and BDSM people would probably be against the Duluth Model/Lifetime Movie badguy husband you describe above.
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Yeah, and the domestic discipline folks are also against "scripture" so I wouldn't really put much stock in their opinion, anyhow.

Like I said, I don't think anyone here would agree with that type of behavior.

Unless I am completely missing something, there is not one scripture that even suggests that domestic discipline is permissible.

So I mean really, this should have been a pretty short thread.

The word "NO" pretty much says it all;)

There really was no need to go into all the other uncalled for sexual stuff.
 
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Yeah, and the domestic discipline folks are also against "scripture" so I wouldn't really put much stock in their opinion, anyhow.

Like I said, I don't think anyone here would agree with that type of behavior.

Unless I am completely missing something, there is not one scripture that even suggests that domestic discipline is permissible.

So I mean really, this should have been a pretty short thread.

The word "NO" pretty much says it all;)

There really was no need to go into all the other uncalled for sexual stuff.
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I think this has been a fantastic opportunity. Agreed the thread is off the rails. It’s not the product that is helpful. So far nobody said it was their God given right to beat their wife, so that’s a plus. I’m looking at the obvious fringe topic that some may have chimed in on. Perhaps some here who weren’t even part of the conversation but were conflicted with their desires received some info. Also it was great to see the goats and a few wolves show their teeth. There just isn’t love in some of the responses. They came in blasting both barrels, wild with accusation and slander, reminding us to be Christlike while acting like Satan (accuser).
 
p_rehbein said:
Have not read the 279 Comments or the OP, but the Title alone makes me very sad to believe that it would be posted here on CC.

I can NOT believe anyone professing to be a Christian would even consider asking the question, but, that may just be me........
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Thats exacly what i was thinking. Why and how could anyone even think and or consider that beating ANYONE you love be biblical. Especially ones wife. Even a husband.
 
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Demi777 said:
Thats exacly what i was thinking. Why and how could anyone even think and or consider that beating ANYONE you love be biblical. Especially ones wife. Even a husband.
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I will extend the kindness of not beating to strangers and those who sin against you. My sons wanted to get into boxing. I told them every dude needs to know how to defend himself but intentionally putting yourself into a situation where punching a stranger in the head hard enough so that his brain rattles off the inside of his skull to knock him out just isn’t what Christians do. I believe that there are few times where God permits violence to evil doers and He will tell us when.
 
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BrokenSparrow said:
Guys I think you know, what married couples choose to do in the bedroom is not the topic of this thread. And it's not something that needs to be discussed in regards to this thread.

The question posed is... "Is it biblically permissive to beat one's wife?"

This a serious and even dangerous issue for some women. This isn't something that anyone should take lightly.

In reality, abuse does happen in some marriages. Some women have to walk on egg shells around their husbands for fear of what he might do. Never knowing when she is going to be berated, yelled at, cursed, or hit for doing something he didn't like or agree with...like maybe cooking steak not knowing he wanted chicken, talking too much or not talking enough, being too happy or not being happy enough etc. etc. ect. or whatever depending upon his mood. Constantly worried and living in fear never knowing what might set him off.

I'm not saying that anyone here agrees with that type of behavior, but the intent of this thread is discussing if that type of behavior is Biblically permissive.

So can you imagine a woman....maybe your sister or daughter....having to go through this type of situation. And the only counsel she got was from "the Spanky Mcspank a lot foundation" or whatever the name is of founders of the article that was cited here.
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Constant worrying (fear) will suck the life (joy) out of marriage.
 
tourist said:
Constant worrying (fear) will suck the life (joy) out of marriage.
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Yeah, that would make for a bad marriage for the husband or the wife. Just the anxiety involved of arguing or being yelled at and belittled is bad. Then add something like domestic discipline. That would be terrible and completely against God's intention and plan for marriages.
 
i think the explanation to this is all rather simple
getting turned on by spanking is within the realm of consensual relations and according to our philosophy would disappear in the presence of truth when some greater revelation is on the table. So the pre-revelation spanking isn't ideal but it's within the consensual realm at least
However the beating of a spouse physically or in any other way (which are just as real) is even less desirable when it is non-consensual
Thus, a couple that engaged in spanking is better because it is consensual than this kind of abuse which is non-consensual
Since in the spanking scenario no-one is harmed we may jest about it, but there is something way better on the table
But the sexual spanking is still to be preferred than abuse, because there is something even better that neither would be on the table any more but something far better
 
presidente said:
No magazines under the mattress. There you go with the insinuations again. I suppose you feel if you post it as a comment and don't directly say it, it is not the sin of slander. Do unto others...
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I was obviously exaggerating. you and hungry seem to like to talk about sex fetishes. why don't you pm each other? children can read your smut on this site.

the hypocritical whining of the 2 of you because people have not engaged you in a positive way, is childish. you made the posts...and we responded
 
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Let's not get crude....assuming I am guessing right what a pokey is.
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far less crude than what you have posted. you seem to want to talk about just how kinky a person can get before God frowns on it

I mean, that is all done with the equipment below the belt, right? once again, hypocrisy if someone else just responds to the exact kind of rhetoric you and hungry ask for
 
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I will extend the kindness of not beating to strangers and those who sin against you. My sons wanted to get into boxing. I told them every dude needs to know how to defend himself but intentionally putting yourself into a situation where punching a stranger in the head hard enough so that his brain rattles off the inside of his skull to knock him out just isn’t what Christians do. I believe that there are few times where God permits violence to evil doers and He will tell us when.
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Self defense is one thing. Millitary is one thing. But abuse is a nogo and in no way biblically justifiable
 
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far less crude than what you have posted. you seem to want to talk about just how kinky a person can get before God frowns on it

I mean, that is all done with the equipment below the belt, right? once again, hypocrisy if someone else just responds to the exact kind of rhetoric you and hungry ask for
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He was talking, metaphorically, about another guy's..... and raking him over the coals, metaphorically, of course.

I was obviously exaggerating. you and hungry seem to like to talk about sex fetishes. why don't you pm each other?
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You are posting on this thread also, commenting on sexual fetishes as well.

The Torah has laws about circumcision, menstruation, not having sex with animals, men not having sex with each other, not committing adultery, incest. The New Testament mentions same sex activity, prostitution, incest, and adultery, also. The Torah was to be read to all the people, babies, children, adults, old people, included. Moses and Ezra both read the law to people of all ages. Paul specifically mentions two epistles being read to congregations. It is likely New Testament epistles were all intended to be read to the congregation. Churches teach out of them now.

Victorian sensibilities about socially acceptable topics are not the Biblical standard. Teaching and discussing sexual topics regarding what is permitting and what is not is not forbidden. You seem to treat it as sinful to discuss such topics, even though you are participating in the discussion. I do not consider this inherently sinful, so at least I am not being inconsistent.

But you do not seem to think it wrong to insinuate someone else has porn. Would you like me to suggest on a public forum that you have a porn stash somewhere? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You may also consider whether your posts contribute to the discussion and edify.
 
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Judges 5:15
The leaders of Issachar were with Deborah. The family of Issachar was true to Barak. Those men marched to the valley on foot. “Reuben, there are many brave soldiers in your army groups.
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How is this even remotely related to the OP?
 
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