In many contexts, yes. Sometimes "Heaven" refers specifically to the heavens.You don't believe the kingdom of God and heaven are wherever God rules?
To enter the kingdom of Heaven, you must do the will of the father.You don't believe the kingdom of God and heaven are wherever God rules?
Weeellllll... EXCUUUUUUUUUSE ME !I appreciate your responses, but my questions were directed to a specific person for a specific purpose. I forgot how helpful people are around here.
You don't worry, you won't have to be bothered to do the will of the Father to go to that terrible place called hell.No, we do not have to "do" anything to enter His kingdom outside of repentance, which is a gift from Him anyway. As a matter of fact, and I had to change my answer after giving it some thought first, but there is actually nothing we can do to enter His kingdom. I am in the kingdom right now along with everyone else that has been born again in truth since Acts 2. This question is also a little tricky because if we are saved then it was Gods will for that to be so. This comes back down to the osas vs the "we're in charge of our own sanctification by our own power" debate that rages around here.
Is it our "choice" that saves us. Do we "find Him", or does He draw us and grant us repentance? Does He get ALL glory for our salvation, or do we get a little bit because we choose right? I am of the belief that God does it all, every bit of it and gets every last bit of glory for it. I am not denying we have choice and a will of our own, I just don't think "free will" is the best way to describe what we have. His word tells us clearly that we are a slave of sin or slave of Christ, and if you were truly transformed by Jesus blood then you WILL obey (not "have to" obey), and cannot lose salvation. I believe He loses none the Father gives Him, and He will finish the good work He started in us. If He has transformed you then your life will reflect this fact and you will work hard not to sin and to glorify Him. It's not at all like some people on here try to sell, they make salvation a "chance" and say God drops a huge burden on us when we are born again, having to obey in order to "keep" salvation. I believe we work BECAUSE of salvation therefore He gets ALL glory for it, they teach we better obey "FOR" salvation and if they make it they get the credit for obeying better than those who lost theirs. A garbage way of teaching, and completely works based salvation. A false gospel.
So to enter the kingdom I say we have to be in Gods will for that to happen, but as far as having to "do" something, then not at all.
Do you believe it is necessary to do the will of the Father to enter into the kingdom of heaven?
You must be born from above. That's the only requirement. Everything else attends salvation.To enter the kingdom of Heaven, you must do the will of the father.
It is impossible to be born from above without doing the will of the Father.You must be born from above. That's the only requirement. Everything else attends salvation.
Yes. That is the will of the Father.You must be born from above. That's the only requirement. Everything else attends salvation.
You are missing the word "Doing".Yes. That is the will of the Father.![]()
I am not "missing" anything. My statement stands as printed. Split hairs and spin wheels to your hearts delight, though.You are missing the word "Doing".![]()
That's the very definition of a works based salvation. The fact is, one cannot do the will of God apart from a relationship with Christ. Look a little closer at Matthew 7:21-23. They weren't sent away due to disobedience. They were told to depart because Jesus never knew them...never born from above.It is impossible to be born from above without doing the will of the Father.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
I believe it is New Jerusalem, but perhaps this is what you intended.The kingdom of heaven is the restoration of Israel's kingdom come down to earth where the Messiah will rule and reign over all the earth from the throne of David in Jerusalem.
Do you believe it is necessary to do the will of the Father to enter into the kingdom of heaven?
clearly yes
... state of being where Christians who doeth the will...
Doeth? Are you King James only? It comes across as pretentious.
You don't worry, you won't have to be bothered to do the will of the Father to go to that terrible place called hell.
That's the very definition of a works based salvation. The fact is, one cannot do the will of God apart from a relationship with Christ. Look a little closer at Matthew 7:21-23. They weren't sent away due to disobedience. They were told to depart because Jesus never knew them...never born from above.
There exists a reality to salvation. Dead people are made spiritually alive. All things become new. Those who have experienced this obey because their natures have been changed, and not as a result of their personal endeavor...I live, yet not I; Christ lives (or liveth) in me.
That's the very definition of a works based salvation.