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Viligant_Warrior
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The thread asks "Is polygamy next?"
Yes, it is. Followed by man-boy love, and following that will be some people inviting their favorite sheep to be their next ex-wife. My only question as to the last scenario is, who handles domestic violence complaints? The local police, or the ASPCA?
Yes, it is. Followed by man-boy love, and following that will be some people inviting their favorite sheep to be their next ex-wife. My only question as to the last scenario is, who handles domestic violence complaints? The local police, or the ASPCA?
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PartyOf3
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A joke came to mind about how to get your sheep to sign divorce papers....
I also think polygamists will be fighting for the right to marry legally.
We really need to pray fervently that these people aren't successful in forcing churches to perform any marriage outside 1 man/woman.
We really need to pray fervently that these people aren't successful in forcing churches to perform any marriage outside 1 man/woman.
Well at least it would be a marriage that the Bible doesn't preach against.
INB4 it does, nope. Not a single verse (other than the special case for deacons) preaches against it. You only see an end to it CULTURALLY when the NT moves toward the West, where polygamy is extremely uncommon and pretty taboo (but homosexuality isn't)
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Tintin
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Just because it was practiced in ancient history, by men of God, doesn't mean it's right. The Bible records humanity as it is. God made marriage for one man and one woman. That's it.
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Siberian_Khatru
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We say this because of our cultural foundations, not religious foundations. There's nothing against it in the scriptures.
Culturally, it's "weird" to Westerners like us because most of us can't comprehend the mindset, so we just write it off as "wrong" spiritually. Eating bugs is weird as well (but also practiced in the Bible and still today).
We can use our spiritual beliefs as a scapegoat for our cultural beliefs and say that God made marriage for one man and one woman, but the scriptures seem to say otherwise, at least for me.
I know my opinion isn't a popular one, but I have yet to see it disputed with the meat and potatoes of scriptural truth.
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tanach
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Viligant_Warrior
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kaylagrl
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HAhahahaahah nothing worse than a baaaaad relationship right? Could-not-resist
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Viligant_Warrior
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HAhahahaahah nothing worse than a baaaaad relationship right? Could-not-resist
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kaylagrl
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Her cat died? I think the dog had something to do with it.Main suspect,no doubt about it.Did he take out any life insurance is what i'd like to know? Its always the life insurance...
You may be able to marry anyone or thing according to the World's law, but I shall remain married married to the love of my life according to God's will, and I shall teach all my children, grandchildren, and the children of God to do the same. One man and one woman joining together to become one in Christ. It doesn't get any better than that.
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AgeofKnowledge
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It will be worse for nations that possess and then maligned and/or rejected the genuine Christian worldview than for those that did not know.
The moral will of God is real. He is not indifferent. The New Testament asserts divine judgment as an unavoidable fact of humanity's future in which the holiness of the biblical God prevails at the second coming of Christ and a separation occurs as well as an end to the angelic conflict.
It is God who judges through his eschatological agent Christ. The standard of judgment is God’s impartial righteousness according to works noting that the final criteria of judgment is one's relation to the Christ. Final judgment is an eschatological fact, even for believers (Rom. 14:10), though we may face it without fear because of our relation to Christ.
Judicium divinum draws closer...
The moral will of God is real. He is not indifferent. The New Testament asserts divine judgment as an unavoidable fact of humanity's future in which the holiness of the biblical God prevails at the second coming of Christ and a separation occurs as well as an end to the angelic conflict.
It is God who judges through his eschatological agent Christ. The standard of judgment is God’s impartial righteousness according to works noting that the final criteria of judgment is one's relation to the Christ. Final judgment is an eschatological fact, even for believers (Rom. 14:10), though we may face it without fear because of our relation to Christ.
Judicium divinum draws closer...
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AgeofKnowledge
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I will argue otherwise. Polygamy was never the biblical design in the bible. There never existed an express biblical permission for such a deviation from the ordinance of God made at the institution of marriage in the Garden of Eden (Gen 2:21–24).
There are at least four passages that conceivably could be construed as giving temporary permission from God to override the general law of marriage found in Genesis 2:24. They are Exodus 21:7–11, Leviticus 18:18, Deuteronomy 21:15–17 and 2 Samuel 12:7–8. But each one falls far short of proving that anything like divine permission was being granted in these passages.
Scripture does not always pause to state the obvious. In many cases there is no need for the reader to imagine what God thinks of such states of affairs, for the misfortune and strife that come into the domestic lives of these polygamists cannot be read as a sign of divine approval.
For example, it is true that Jacob was deceived by Laban on Jacob’s wedding night but that did not justify Jacob in agreeing to Laban’s crafty plan to get him to stay around for another seven years to ensure continued prosperity. Two wrongs in this case did not make a right.
In ancient Israel, monogamy (not polygamy) was the common form of marriage in Israel apart from kings. Samuel and Kings do not record a single instance of polygamy among commoners except that of Samuel’s father.
What we find in scripture is that polygamy was allowed by God for the same reason as divorce, namely as a temporary concession to human weakness and sinfulness before the coming of Christ (see J. Murray 'Principles of Conduct').
The New Testament leaves no room for it. Paul’s parallel between the mystical union of Christ and his church and the union of man and wife ‘in the Lord’ is altogether appropriate (Eph. 5:24–33) and converted pagans who previously engaged in the practice are barred from church leadership entirely.
There are at least four passages that conceivably could be construed as giving temporary permission from God to override the general law of marriage found in Genesis 2:24. They are Exodus 21:7–11, Leviticus 18:18, Deuteronomy 21:15–17 and 2 Samuel 12:7–8. But each one falls far short of proving that anything like divine permission was being granted in these passages.
Scripture does not always pause to state the obvious. In many cases there is no need for the reader to imagine what God thinks of such states of affairs, for the misfortune and strife that come into the domestic lives of these polygamists cannot be read as a sign of divine approval.
For example, it is true that Jacob was deceived by Laban on Jacob’s wedding night but that did not justify Jacob in agreeing to Laban’s crafty plan to get him to stay around for another seven years to ensure continued prosperity. Two wrongs in this case did not make a right.
In ancient Israel, monogamy (not polygamy) was the common form of marriage in Israel apart from kings. Samuel and Kings do not record a single instance of polygamy among commoners except that of Samuel’s father.
What we find in scripture is that polygamy was allowed by God for the same reason as divorce, namely as a temporary concession to human weakness and sinfulness before the coming of Christ (see J. Murray 'Principles of Conduct').
The New Testament leaves no room for it. Paul’s parallel between the mystical union of Christ and his church and the union of man and wife ‘in the Lord’ is altogether appropriate (Eph. 5:24–33) and converted pagans who previously engaged in the practice are barred from church leadership entirely.
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