Yes, including: Heb. 6:4-6, Gal. 5:4, Rom. 11:22, 1Cor. 15:2, Col. 1:22-23, 2Thes. 1:4-5, 2Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6&14, 10:35-36, Jam. 1:12,
2Pet. 1:10-11, 2:20, 1John 2:24-25 and Rev. 2:10.
Is Salvation instantaneous and permanent?
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Yes, including: Heb. 6:4-6, Gal. 5:4, Rom. 11:22, 1Cor. 15:2, Col. 1:22-23, 2Thes. 1:4-5, 2Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6&14, 10:35-36, Jam. 1:12,
2Pet. 1:10-11, 2:20, 1John 2:24-25 and Rev. 2:10.
The 'old nature'* (a term I dislike) doesn't repent or co-operate with God. 'Because the carnal mind is at enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be'. Rom 8:7.
* The unregenerate man does not have a sinful nature (old nature) but rather a human nature, polluted by sin.
I encourage you not to proof-text, but instead to become familiar with the entire teaching of Paul in Romans:
1. Romans 1:16 says the Gospel reveals that (s/e) is for “everyone who believes”, both Jew and Gentile.
2. Romans 1:17 describes s/e as “righteousness from God” that is by faith “from first to last” or from creation until the end.
3. Romans 2:4 teaches that God’s kindness or patience with sinners is meant to lead them toward repentance, which implies that sinners are able to repent because of God’s leading.
4. Romans 2:5 warns that those who do not repent but instead stubbornly resist God’s leading are storing up wrath against themselves for the day when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed, which implies that God enables sinners to repent–or not (cf. Deut. 30:19).
5. Romans 2:6 affirms what is called karma by saying that “God will give to each person according to what he has done”, which (in Gal. 6:7-9) is called reaping what a person sows.
6. Romans 2:7 speaks of the need for “persistence in doing good” and seeking glory, honor and immortality in order to receive s/e or eternal life, which echoes what Jesus commanded (in Matt. 7:7) and connects with the doctrine of perseverance (cf. Heb. 10:36 & Jam. 1:3-4).
7. Romans 2:11 teaches that “God does not show favoritism” (cf. Eph. 6:9, Col. 3:25, 1Pet. 1:17), which is how God judges people justly, so the fact that some sinners ignore God’s Gospel indicates that His will or leading is resistible because of MFW.
8. Romans 2:15 teaches that sinful souls have a conscience or awareness of “the requirements of the law”, which may be combined with Romans 1:20 to teach that God’s power and moral nature or will may be perceived via creation and conscience (called natural revelation), thus those unfamiliar with God’s Word in Scripture have no good reason for resisting divine leading and choosing atheism/evil.
9. Romans 3:20-21 states the law makes souls conscious of sin and that “the Law and Prophets testify” or prepare the way for the new revelation of righteousness from God apart from the Law, which takes up where Romans 1:17 left off.
10. Romans 3:22a says that “righteousness from God” or s/e comes through faith “in Jesus Christ” (cf. Eph. 2:8), a phrase Paul used eleven times in Ephesians 1:3-14 to indicate s/e.
11. Romans 3:22b says that God’s righteousness is given “to all who believe—there is no difference”” signifying that all sinners may believe or be s/e (cf. 1Tim. 2:3-4, John 3:16, Tit. 2:11), because there is no favoritism (#7).
12. Romans 3:23 teaches that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”, meaning that no one can be good enough to earn salvation because of their own merit.
13. Romans 3:24 says sinners “are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus” (via faith per v.22, cf. 3:27-28); s/e is free because Christ paid the price/cost.
14. Romans 3:25a explains redemption as being “a sacrifice of atonement” for those who have faith in Christ’s work of dying in their place.
15. Romans 3:25b further explains that God demonstrated his just patience (#3) or forbearance in leaving unpunished those sins committed before the revealing of the Gospel (foreshadowed in Gen. 22:8 & 13), implying that sinners had/have the opportunity to believe and be s/e thereby demonstrating God’s justice/not showing favoritism (#11).
16. Romans 3:26 continues to emphasize divine justice by declaring it three ways (“justice…, just…, justifies”), which justness is synonymous with righteousness (2Thes. 1:5-6, Heb. 6:10).
17. Romans 4:1-25 presents Abraham as a Gentile who became the physical father of the Jews and the spiritual father of all who choose to have faith in God/Christ.
18. Romans 5:1 echoes Eph. 2:8 by describing s/e as justification through faith, Eph. 1:5 & 7 by using the phrase “through Jesus Christ”, and Eph. 2:14 by describing s/e as having peace with God.
19. Romans 5:2 & 5 also echo Eph. 2:18 & 3:1 by describing s/e as having access to God’s grace via the Holy Spirit.
20. Romans 5:6-10 states that God’s love (cf. kindness in #3) for the ungodly, for sinners and for His enemies is demonstrated by Christ dying for their s/e or justification/reconciliation.
21. Romans 5:12-21 describes s/e in corporate terms, saying that–like the first man–all (many?) men also sinned and died, and God’s grace comes to all (many?) because of Jesus Christ.
22. Romans 6:1-14 describes s/e in terms of Christians being united with Christ’s death and resurrection, so they who are under grace should not allow sin to reign in their bodies but should instead serve God as instruments of righteousness.
23. Romans 6:15-23 describes s/e in terms of being slaves to whom one willingly obeys, whether to sin or to obedience of God’s teaching that leads to righteousness, which results in eternal life “in Christ Jesus our Lord” (cf. #10).
24. Romans 7:1-6 describes s/e in terms of a wife’s remarriage after the death of her husband, saying that Christians have been released from the dead letter of the law so that they may serve God in the new way of the Spirit.
25. In Romans 7:7-25 Paul describes s/e in terms of struggle between what a person’s conscience wants to do and what his sinful nature causes him to do until he is rescued by Christ.
26. In Romans 8:1-25 Paul describes the s/e struggle in terms of Christians–who are indwelt by the Spirit and freed from living in accordance with the sinful nature—as putting to death sinful deeds, because they are God’s children and co-heirs of Christ’s glorious resurrection.
27. In Romans 8:28-30 Paul says that those who love God were foreknown and “predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son”, which is akin to what Paul said in Ephesians 1:4-14, that before creating the world God chose or predestined those sinners “in Christ” to be blameless sons and receive the Holy Spirit.
28. Romans 8:31-39 elaborates on the previous point by saying that there is nothing that can separate “we” believers (who reflect God’s love per v.28) from Christ’s love.
should I present myself to the faith community for instruction in the faith?
ok
I'll present myself to the one, holy, Catholic & apostolic church founded by Jesus Christ! Amen?
Christians must be taught or instructed, according to the sense which the perpetual consent of the Catholic Church hath held and expressed, as commanded by Christ! Matt 28:19-20 acts 1:1-8
Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
The Holy Spirit leads the apostles into all truth (Jn 16:13) they must teach us! (Matt 28:19)
Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
matt 16:18-19
matt 18:17-18
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
1 tim 3:15
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…
No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs! “One faith” Eph 4:5 Thee faith once handed to the saints” Jude 1:3
Our Holy Religion "truth & the church" are revealed by God and have a divine origin and cannot be reformed, they are immutable!
thks
why does St. Paul warn christians not to sin or be lost?
(( will never inherit the kingdom of God or attain to eternal salvation ))
mt 25:30
Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(what if they walk after the flesh?)
Gal 6:7-8
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
thks
Yes. Under normal circumstances learning GW would prevent being prodigal per Eph. 6:10-17.
There are two elements to the Christian's salvation.
One is permanent.
Not going to Hell.
One is to be gained while alive on earth.
Gained by means of our obedience to God's unique plan for our lives,
One either finds himself eventually walking into blessings, or stuck in suffering via discipline from God while on earth.
Peter calls it the "salvation of our soul."
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has
given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from
the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance
is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the
coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. In all this you
greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all
kinds of trials. These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith—of
greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in
praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. Though you have not seen him,
you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are
filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the goal of your faith,
the salvation of your souls. 1 Peter 1:3-9
Please, note...Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now,
you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving
the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Now
... That is the salvation that can be lost!
Don't confuse the two salvations as being one and the same!
Salvation from the Lake of Fire s by means of the Cross.
It is God's set deal.
He did the Work perfectly!
No one takes our salvation from the Lake of Fire away from Him!
Now... On the other hand?
If we please God by means of obedience to keep on growing in grace and knowledge of sound Bible teachings?
Not false doctrines!
For that obedience? Is rewardable.
We will be allowed to share with God more and more of His own life as our blessing for all Eternity!
That is why it says...
Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction;
whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life." Galatians 6:8
That eternal life to be granted will be directly from God, granting us access to God sharing with us His Life in us, and us in Him.grace and peace!
Gehenna refers to eternal hell where the worm (immortal soul) never dies
perhaps this is a little clearer
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
thks
eternal salvation upon one microscopic / split second act of faith alone? where's that in scripture?
thks
eternal salvation upon one microscopic / split second act of faith alone? where's that in scripture?
thks
Ephesians 2:6-7
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed
in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.
It is a done deal!
You miserably fail to see what God sees the believer as already being!
We are dumbfounded by how you keep being dumbfounded.
God is not a man that He should react to a believer who fails to be virtuous, like you see God being as if you were God.
You would make a lousy God.
The Greek word translated in your English Bible version as “everlasting” is aiOnios, which does not mean “everlasting”. It is an adjective formed from aiOn, an eon or an age, and means “having the nature of an age/aeon, i.e. age-long/aeon-long. The Greek word for "without end" is “aperantos”, i.e. a- not, + perantos finished (used in 1Tim. 1:4) and "eis to diEkenes” (continually, lit. into the through-carried/into the continuity) used in Heb. 7:3; 10:1, 12, 14.
So your proof-texts simply don’t say what you want them to say, unless you arbitrarily read your opinion into the biblical text.
My mistake, I clicked a like which it seems I can't remove. I don't actually agree with what you said.
You do not know the difference between the born again experience, which is irreversible, and the ongoing salvation of the soul. The first is God's doing and requires us to be convicted of sin and to seek to be saved. The salvation of the soul is a lifetime of God's working that requires our active cooperation. Some make great progress because they are willing to forsake their own self will for the sake of the Kingdom. Others cling to their self will and so make little progress. Both will be in heaven. What is at stake is placement in God's kingdom and everlasting rewards.
Do you mean aiOnios at the end of Matt. 25?
Yes, the reward is called aiOnios (age-long), and the punishment is called aiOnios (age-long). I think they are referring to what the sheep and goats end up receiving during the age to come, the 1000 year reign of the saints on the earth. I also think the sheep are unbelievers who survive Christ’s return and who had showed compassion to the persecuted saints; while the goats I would see as the unbelievers who survive Christ’s return who had ignored the plight of the persecuted believers.