Isaiah and the end times and Isriael

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Definitely an interesting prospect for sure.....God does call the Jews back into the land before the end of the age and I for one believe that any Jewish person that remains outside the land of Israel will probably not survive what is to come......as far a Christian goes...I believe in post tribulation/pre-wrath in-gathering of the saints....so....get ready for it to get real hard for believers as we draw near to the end of the age and the body presence of Christ and our gathering together unto him.....!
 
I really believe we're living in the last days. Everything's going to get worse. People need to be prepared spiritually to overcome the trials we will go through..And as Christians we need to start witnessing to others...it's serious,people will perish..friends,family....I'm not trying to scare you but the Lord showed me America being invaded and we didn't stand a chance. There is No fear in Christ but we need to do what we are called to do as Christians and that is to witness to everyone and live a Godly example...I also believe in the post-tribulation rapture...
 
Jruiz said:
I really believe we're living in the last days. Everything's going to get worse. People need to be prepared spiritually to overcome the trials we will go through..And as Christians we need to start witnessing to others...it's serious,people will perish..friends,family....I'm not trying to scare you but the Lord showed me America being invaded and we didn't stand a chance. There is No fear in Christ but we need to do what we are called to do as Christians and that is to witness to everyone and live a Godly example...I also believe in the post-tribulation rapture...
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Wait...what did he show you exactly?
 
Why do you think that Isaiah 11 contains an end-times prophecy? This is blatantly taking verses out of context. Not only does verse 11 of your citation list several countries that no long exist, but verses 6 and 7 includes things that Christians don't cite as part of the "end times" but rather after the end times in the Millennial Kingdom.
 
Starcrash said:
Why do you think that Isaiah 11 contains an end-times prophecy? This is blatantly taking verses out of context. Not only does verse 11 of your citation list several countries that no long exist, but verses 6 and 7 includes things that Christians don't cite as part of the "end times" but rather after the end times in the Millennial Kingdom.
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She's just trying to learn, she's been asking a lot of good biblical questions lately. Your critical tone was unnecessary (though typical of the bible discussion people).
 
Starcrash said:
Why do you think that Isaiah 11 contains an end-times prophecy? This is blatantly taking verses out of context. Not only does verse 11 of your citation list several countries that no long exist, but verses 6 and 7 includes things that Christians don't cite as part of the "end times" but rather after the end times in the Millennial Kingdom.
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*Shrug* Well I thought it was a coincidence...
 
Ugly said:
She's just trying to learn, she's been asking a lot of good biblical questions lately. Your critical tone was unnecessary (though typical of the bible discussion people).
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Why does it have to be the atheist that points out the mistake? Is she going to learn if anything being stated positively about the bible is accepted by her community? My bias against the bible makes this easy, but it still ought not to be impossible for you.
 
Real quick, and i won't go into detail...I saw the American flag off in the distance it was huge like a monument or something, I don't know it's what he showed me...anyway as I'm looking at the flag it started to crumble and fall and out from behind the flag I saw war planes coming up over the flag...they started bombing us and I saw bullets from the planes going everywhere...No one stood a chance....No one expected it...we were unprepared...it happened within a blink of an eye,but most importantly he showed me the people who were not saved...that's why we need to start witnessing to people...it's no joke..
 
Jruiz said:
Real quick, and i won't go into detail...I saw the American flag off in the distance it was huge like a monument or something, I don't know it's what he showed me...anyway as I'm looking at the flag it started to crumble and fall and out from behind the flag I saw war planes coming up over the flag...they started bombing us and I saw bullets from the planes going everywhere...No one stood a chance....No one expected it...we were unprepared...it happened within a blink of an eye,but most importantly he showed me the people who were not saved...that's why we need to start witnessing to people...it's no joke..
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I had a dream similar to that....not gonna lie...that's a little creepy....do you remember what the weather was like?
 
JFSurvivor said:
Netanyahu calls for 'massive immigration' of European Jews to Israel - Israel News, Ynetnews

if you click the link then look at isaiah 11:11-12 it looks like more than a coincidence. What do you think?

Also as a Christian, what should we do to...uh...get ready...and what can we expect in the days to come?
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Remember that Satan likes to pretend to be God.
Netanyuhu is not the "root of Jesse", and his calling out to people is not the calling of God.
Satan is setting up for his grand finale. It is called "the great deception".
This doesn't fulfill the millennial Kingdom, or even set up for it. It is setting up the false kingdom of the antichrist.

The current nation of Israel does not fulfill the OT promises to Israel. It tries to, to make itself look like God's Kingdom, but it is built by human hands. It is a false fulfillment.
Christ will come and restore the Kingdom. The current one will be destroyed in the Wrath of God... but many will remove themselves from Babylon before-hand, recognizing the abomination, and will run to the hills. They will turn to Christ, and away from the Satanism of the Talmud.

What is happening today was prophecied about, but it is NOT the restoration foreseen by the Prophets, but instead it is part of the falling away.

Satan is trying to get people to be physically minded, and looking to simple, temporal, physical things as fulfillment. Don't buy into his deceptions. The true fulfillment will not be mistakable! It will be world changing.
 
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More importantly, it will be established by Christ Himself,
not by the UN, or a group of men in the 1940s, or by Israeli militants, or by Netanyahu.
 
Sophia said:
Remember that Satan likes to pretend to be God.
Netanyuhu is not the "root of Jesse", and his calling out to people is not the calling of God.
Satan is setting up for his grand finale. It is called "the great deception".
This doesn't fulfill the millennial Kingdom, or even set up for it. It is setting up the false kingdom of the antichrist.

The current nation of Israel does not fulfill the OT promises to Israel. It tries to, to make itself look like God's Kingdom, but it is built by human hands. It is a false fulfillment.
Christ will come and restore the Kingdom. The current one will be destroyed in the Wrath of God... but many will remove themselves from Babylon before-hand, recognizing the abomination, and will run to the hills. They will turn to Christ, and away from the Satanism of the Talmud.

What is happening today was prophecied about, but it is NOT the restoration foreseen by the Prophets, but instead it is part of the falling away.

Satan is trying to get people to be physically minded, and looking to simple, temporal, physical things as fulfillment. Don't buy into his deceptions. The true fulfillment will not be mistakable! It will be world changing.
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Her interpretation may have been out-of-context, but yours has no context. What is your citation for any of these claims? Can you name one known instance where "Satan pretended to be God"? How do you know that Netanyuhu isn't of David's lineage? What does it even mean for Israel not to "fulfill the OT promises"? In what way does it "[try] to make itself look like God's Kingdom"?
 
Starcrash said:
Her interpretation may have been out-of-context, but yours has no context. What is your citation for any of these claims? Can you name one known instance where "Satan pretended to be God"? How do you know that Netanyuhu isn't of David's lineage? What does it even mean for Israel not to "fulfill the OT promises"? In what way to it "[try] to make itself look like God's Kingdom"?
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It's not possible to debate eschatology with an unbeliever. Let us discuss salvational issues, or you will remain without Spirit to understand such things. They are foolishness to those who don't have the Spirit.

What believer would question Satan masquerading as a being of Light?
What believer does not know who the root of Jesse refers to?
What believer thinks that we look for an earthly kingdom to fulfill what Christ called Heavenly?
 
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Just like giving a book of Shakespeare to a child who doesn't yet know the alphabet,
discussing eschatology, and debating it, is useful only to those who have already received the tool by which to read it: the Spirit.
 
Sophia said:
Just like giving a book of Shakespeare to a child who doesn't yet know the alphabet,
discussing eschatology, and debating it, is useful only to those who have already received the tool by which to read it: the Spirit.
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So I already have to believe the bible to understand it? How could anyone ever become saved if the tools for salvation, laid out inside it, could only be understood by those who already have salvation?

Your argument implies that the citations are all within the bible. Even if they weren't useful to me, you could still link to them if they existed. But it's probable that you avoided doing that because they don't exist.
 
JFSurvivor said:
*Shrug* Well I thought it was a coincidence...
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You were right in recognizing the article as profound, and right in wondering "what should we expect in the days to come". These are signs of the Last Days, and you saw that well.

I was only pointing you to how it relates. It doesn't relate to the Coming Kingdom and the New Jerusalem,
but rather to the false prophet and the city of Babylon.
 
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