Jesus' death justifies believers and we are forgiven through his name

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“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:5‬

Jesus, goes forward to say in verse 6 (first born of flesh as in verse 5) first born of water. For flesh and blood is first born in 93 % water in the mother's womb, as today is known as Amniotic fluid, back then when written then known as water (When the water breaks)
My Point is: Man has taken Baptism in as water Baptism, to be Spirit Baptism. When Jesus was talking about Spirit Baptism from Father, Daddy, PaPa for us to be born new from Father, Daddy, PaPa., by Father in Spirit and Truth. Revealed in John 4:23-24 to me. Belief, then Father reveals born new in each person personally.
One Faith, one Lord, One Baptism, Eph 5 I think, that being Spirit Baptism as stated in Acts 1 before Pentecost about John's water Job over, since Jesus is the Messiah now, as he announced that when he Baptized Jesus, and at first said he needed to be Baptized by Jesus, not him Baptize Jesus. Then, now I see be willing to drink the Spirit of Jesus in us willingly and stand in thankfulness to God as it is done for us to be given new in belief to this truth by God, for us all. Not anyone else. Jesus is the water to drink, not the water of earth. This is the Spirit of Father water, (even though, I have gone through the rituals too and have got water Baptized) where no more thirst is there now in Spirit Baptism, given by Father in risen Son, as in John 4, once one anyone chooses willing belief between God Father, Son and them personally. Are born new from Daddy's view, wow woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7 time to renew the minds and begin to see new from Father's view Romans 12:2

Love the post brother, as we each learn new, to be willing over having to do, there is a big difference to me, thank you
 
Jesus, goes forward to say in verse 6 (first born of flesh as in verse 5) first born of water. For flesh and blood is first born in 93 % water in the mother's womb, as today is known as Amniotic fluid, back then when written then known as water (When the water breaks)
When Jesus was talking about Spirit Baptism from Father, Daddy, PaPa for us to be born new from Father, Daddy, PaPa., by Father in Spirit and Truth. Revealed in John 4:23-24 to me. Belief, then Father reveals born new in each person personally.
One Faith, one Lord, One Baptism, Eph 5 I think, that being Spirit Baptism as stated in Acts 1 before Pentecost about John's water Job over, since Jesus is the Messiah now, as he announced that when he Baptized Jesus, and at first said he needed to be Baptized by Jesus, not him Baptize Jesus. Then, now I see be willing to drink the Spirit of Jesus in us willingly and stand in thankfulness to God as it is done for us to be given new in belief to this truth by God, for us all. Not anyone else. Jesus is the water to drink, not the water of earth. This is the Spirit of Father water, (even though, I have gone through the rituals too and have got water Baptized) where no more thirst is there now in Spirit Baptism, given by Father in risen Son, as in John 4, once one anyone chooses willing belief between God Father, Son and them personally. Are born new from Daddy's view, wow woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7 time to renew the minds and begin to see new from Father's view Romans 12:2

Love the post brother, as we each learn new, to be willing over having to do, there is a big difference to me, thank you

“My Point is: Man has taken Baptism in as water Baptism, to be Spirit Baptism. “

The apostles had baptism wrong because they baptized in water in Jesus name ? Not really following you how is this “ men getting baptism wrong “?

“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:35-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

They were just doing what Jesus told them to do

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. ( he preached Jesus to the man )

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; ( the man believed and was baptized )

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what’s happened is men come along after everything is established and say “ we don’t need to do that thing we’re already saved “ it’s used as a way to removed what he said for us to believe and act upon .

baptism is from God John the Baptist was sent by God he was filled with the Holy Ghost from his birth and appointed by God to prepare the people to receive the messiah through the promise of remission of sins

what I’m saying is baptism for remission of sins is Gods doctrine he’s the one who designed it to be done in water the same baptism Jesus partook of in water and receiving the spirit

Like this

“And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, ( it’s like he’s being born of the womb again ) he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: ( receives the spirit of God )

and there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”( a new born son without sin )
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

at he man never asked how he was born before he asked Jesus how can someone be born second time then Jesus answered “ must be born of water and spirit “ just like Jesus eas shoen there at baptism look what Peter promised later

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water ) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( spirit )
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Our belief that Jesus died formoir sins and rose isn’t the reason to reject the doctrine of things like baptism or communion it’s what gives those things meaning and power.

consider baptism to mean what they say it means that’s faith for instance when someone gets baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins they should believe this about it

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s why people are buried in water in his name and raised up from it in his name ….or consider that it’s the circumcision of the flesh promised by God long ago removing man’s sinful flesh …..

“in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:11-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s not about anyone adding anything it’s about so many people wanting to remove the things he said to do and receive the promises like baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name
 
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It’s not about anyone adding anything it’s about so many people wanting to remove the things he said to do and receive the promises like baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name

So were these water baptized as Paul preached to them Forgivenss of sins Acts 13:38-39

38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.