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Yes you are right, but you are using the mistranslated verse in the one you just gave.
In the original text, and the KJV translation does not say through the blood of his Son.
Jesus is God
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Yes you are right, but you are using the mistranslated verse in the one you just gave.
In the original text, and the KJV translation does not say through the blood of his Son.
I also wish I had fellowship in my secluded area, but alas not many believe as I do.
I pray that one day we all fellowship together with God and his Son.
The word, "own" does not have to mean it is personally His own blood, but rather, the blood of His own Son, a family member. That's why you find translations that say that.
We must use the Bible to interpret the verses and not use the verses to interpret the Bible.
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kennethcadwell
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Exactly, which is why if you take I gave plus the ones where the Pharisees wanting to stone Jesus for making statements that in those days were taken to say one is calling themselves God.
Then on top of that you have John 1;
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus is the word, the way, the truth, and the light.
Our Lord in the flesh was created to begin the new covenant, however the Spirit of our Lord has always existed.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
It appears that the Spirit of God is the same as the Spirit of Christ.
Amen! The the eternal Spirit of God was indwelling Jesus but Jesus also had His own spirit as well.
Hebrews 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Again! How is that we are so quick to use the Pharisee's reply to Jesus to build our doctrines and not Jesus' correction of the their reply to build our doctrines? The Pharisee's misunderstood just about everything Jesus said and we use their misunderstanding to build our doctrines.
Read the context and use Jesus' correction to establish your belief.
John 10:30-36 I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
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I use multiple translations. The important thing is to use the entire Bible to interpret the verses and not use the verses to interpret the Bible.
Amen! The Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God but Jesus also had His own spirit. The Spirit of Him who raised Jesus is different then the spirit of the man Jesus.
Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, (by my great power)
and by my outstretched arm, (and have given it) (unto whom it seemed meet unto me).
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
(for God giveth) (not the Spirit by measure) unto him.
and he shall be (filled with) the Holy Ghost, (even from his mother's womb).
I have put (my spirit) upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit
(The Spirit of God) hath made me, and the breath of (the Almighty) hath given me life.
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
18Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
11But if (the Spirit of him) that (raised up Jesus) from the dead (dwell in you),
he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
and by my outstretched arm, (and have given it) (unto whom it seemed meet unto me).
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
(for God giveth) (not the Spirit by measure) unto him.
and he shall be (filled with) the Holy Ghost, (even from his mother's womb).
I have put (my spirit) upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit
(The Spirit of God) hath made me, and the breath of (the Almighty) hath given me life.
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
18Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
11But if (the Spirit of him) that (raised up Jesus) from the dead (dwell in you),
he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also
Hey when you find out what that is let me know. The link isn't supported by my phone
it's under the forum heading FAQ / Picture and Profile FAQ / Chat Forum Reputation
doesn't fully explain it, but best i could find. there may be some topics buried in the forum history if you search hard enough