Jesus was not only GOD but the GOD-MAN.

[posthuman]

Measure direction by intention, No man can serve two master, so if God is an agent of order and creation and his foundation is christ in all then the spirit who demands some be saved others be destroyed denies God in the oppressed. Are we not all of God??? All warfare is deception.

God doesn't serve some other master.

What I am saying is that His intention with a single parable is that those who can see, will see more, and those who cannot, will be blinder still. Just like a single cut with a two edged sword both defends and attacks.

No we are not all of God - as He Himself calls some, sons of Belial, and says, if you were of Him you would believe Him - because you do not believe Him, you prove you are not His.

So what are you saying now?
You are accusing God of being evil because He separates the wheat He sows from the tares the devil sows?

Not all warfare is deception - don't you yourself openly oppose Him?

 

[jcollins]

The two witnesses are witness of God .Not the witness of men what the eyes see. When the graves were opened a (metaphor) the witness were the angels in the new Jerusalem, the city of Christ, prepared as His bride .

No one has received the promise of their new incorruptible bodies all die not receiving it. No eye has seen.

The law and the prophets God's one witness .Prophecy is the witness of God .

Two kinds the witness of God's word. . the greater. (the law and the prophets ). typified by Moses and Elisa

Satan like in all things makes two of God things into one and one into two .What God calls separate he calls together as one .(vice versa)

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this (as it is written) is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Satan like in all things makes two of God things - Because lucifer is described in the bible as an agent of the lord (as in job) and because the bible loves to present the illusion of God sending his servants to condemn (1Kings 22 20) (1 Samuel 16 15) (Isaiah 5 20), and since i cannot attribute to God suffering at my behest or anyone who might treat him with contempt because of me, i use the indefinite articles someone something accuser oppressor narrator.
Lest i "slander celestial beings"

 

[garee]

This is not about "me" or "my" anything. It is about the comments you made in your post.


That's not even a sentence.


You excel at eisegesis.


More irrelevant blather.

I know you are. . . but what am I?

Eisegesis? That's the hope of those who do not rightly divide the parables .(literalist) They remain a mystery . . no gospel understanding. And then men seek after the literal historical .Not mixing faith. No gospel

What's your exegesis of Thomas the doubter? Did Christ teach him how to walk or understand by sight making faith without effect? Is that the teaching lesson? Trust your eyes? That's what the Catholic say. . bow down to the flesh. . venerate it, glory in it. .

I would offer learn what it means to Exegesis mix faith (the unseen eternal ) .

Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

No gospel, no rest. It would seem to become a work of self-righteousness. Those who seek to self-edify and say its a sign from God .

The law of rightly dividing so that we can seek the approval of God not seen informs without parable Christ spoke not . No wondering or doubting is needed when a person is given the faith of a witness who was there, working in creatures to both will and do His good pleasure.

They who do rightly divide have the witness within .No need for lying signs to wonder after . They can only create doubt.

 

[garee]

Satan like in all things makes two of God things - Because lucifer is described in the bible as an agent of the lord (as in job) and because the bible loves to present the illusion of God sending his servants to condemn (1Kings 22 20) (1 Samuel 16 15) (Isaiah 5 20), and since i cannot attribute to God suffering at my behest or anyone who might treat him with contempt because of me, i use the indefinite articles someone something accuser oppressor narrator.
Lest i "slander celestial beings"

I think I understand

Two of God things by counterfeiting the things of God .Like the idea of turning things upside down taking away the understanding inspired from the Potter above . The doctrines of God that do fall like rain the pouring out of His Spirit the water of the gospel .

Or did you have something else in mind?

Deuteronomy 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

 

[jcollins]

God doesn't serve some other master.

What I am saying is that His intention with a single parable is that those who can see, will see more, and those who cannot, will be blinder still. Just like a single cut with a two edged sword both defends and attacks.

No we are not all of God - as He Himself calls some, sons of Belial, and says, if you were of Him you would believe Him - because you do not believe Him, you prove you are not His.

So what are you saying now?
You are accusing God of being evil because He separates the wheat He sows from the tares the devil sows?

Not all warfare is deception - don't you yourself openly oppose Him?

"Hey now wait a minute mister postman!" You who are without sin, cast your stone. Said no man could serve two masters. Read that again...

You say the teachings of christ are a two edged sword, as the bible do. "And a sword will pierce your own soul as well" Now take as an example the epiphany of christ to paul. Did christ cut him to pieces using the laws of the israelites or did he not unscramble his brain by restoring his morality/logic/fellowship principles so that he could be a walking example of what christ is? For any who serve the testament as paul did produce the fruit he did and deny the christ law in hisself leaving a trail of suffering and bloodshed. Paul was a victim. Paul was oppressed. Christ restored him. So if you had lived in you sin and served the god of the living then you would have been put to death, in a sense, but not destroyed. Call Paul a child of the devil if you like, then understand what it was about paul christ destroyed, then walk outside and look around and ask yourself, which of these are the children of the devil who were not created by God? The war is for the souls of men, but for any one of these he will search, and if oppression in manifest in behavior and is observable then those who do not make peace, are not pure in heart, those who betray, those who destroy, are called devil children so they might be, i dunno, ostracized, imprisoned, beaten, killed by men at the behest of someone who sows oppression but if noone can serve two masters, then the destroyer cannot create life. (lol) can you give it to them, frodo?

God created all things but lobsters do not yet believe in God, therefore he did not create them. Is that what your saying? Of course not.

I am not accusing God of being evil; i have seen the burden God has laid on men and even when i sleep my mind does not rest. But if i attribute suffering to real things like pain and hunger and lonelyness from whence come the unreal sufferings of evil and oppression?

 

[jcollins]

I know you are. . . but what am I?

Eisegesis? That's the hope of those who do not rightly divide the parables .(literalist) They remain a mystery . . no gospel understanding. And then men seek after the literal historical .Not mixing faith. No gospel

What's your exegesis of Thomas the doubter? Did Christ teach him how to walk or understand by sight making faith without effect? Is that the teaching lesson? Trust your eyes? That's what the Catholic say. . bow down to the flesh. . venerate it, glory in it. .

I would offer learn what it means to Exegesis mix faith (the unseen eternal ) .

Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

No gospel, no rest. It would seem to become a work of self-righteousness. Those who seek to self-edify and say its a sign from God .

The law of rightly dividing so that we can seek the approval of God not seen informs without parable Christ spoke not . No wondering or doubting is needed when a person is given the faith of a witness who was there, working in creatures to both will and do His good pleasure.

They who do rightly divide have the witness within .No need for lying signs to wonder after . They can only create doubt.

/wow look at that christmas tree, in August, but not august. lol

 

[jcollins]

I think I understand

Two of God things by counterfeiting the things of God .Like the idea of turning things upside down taking away the understanding inspired from the Potter above . The doctrines of God that do fall like rain the pouring out of His Spirit the water of the gospel .

Or did you have something else in mind?

Deuteronomy 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

I cannot justify the scripture by observable life. I cannot reconcile what is wrote of God with anything. My hope was to share my concern for my own welfare using my ignorance to reconcile myself to my world.

 

[Dino246]

Eisegesis? That's the hope of those who do not rightly divide the parables .(literalist)

No. Eisegesis is putting things into the text to make it say what you want it to say.

What's your exegesis of Thomas the doubter?

Already provided.

I would offer learn what it means to Exegesis mix faith (the unseen eternal ) .

You can offer, but it really would be better for you to read a dictionary.

 

[bojack]

"Hey now wait a minute mister postman!" You who are without sin, cast your stone. Said no man could serve two masters. Read that again...

You say the teachings of christ are a two edged sword, as the bible do. "And a sword will pierce your own soul as well" Now take as an example the epiphany of christ to paul. Did christ cut him to pieces using the laws of the israelites or did he not unscramble his brain by restoring his morality/logic/fellowship principles so that he could be a walking example of what christ is? For any who serve the testament as paul did produce the fruit he did and deny the christ law in hisself leaving a trail of suffering and bloodshed. Paul was a victim. Paul was oppressed. Christ restored him. So if you had lived in you sin and served the god of the living then you would have been put to death, in a sense, but not destroyed. Call Paul a child of the devil if you like, then understand what it was about paul christ destroyed, then walk outside and look around and ask yourself, which of these are the children of the devil who were not created by God? The war is for the souls of men, but for any one of these he will search, and if oppression in manifest in behavior and is observable then those who do not make peace, are not pure in heart, those who betray, those who destroy, are called devil children so they might be, i dunno, ostracized, imprisoned, beaten, killed by men at the behest of someone who sows oppression but if noone can serve two masters, then the destroyer cannot create life. (lol) can you give it to them, frodo?

God created all things but lobsters do not yet believe in God, therefore he did not create them. Is that what your saying? Of course not.

I am not accusing God of being evil; i have seen the burden God has laid on men and even when i sleep my mind does not rest. But if i attribute suffering to real things like pain and hunger and lonelyness from whence come the unreal sufferings of evil and oppression?

What seems to be the problem jcollins ?

 

[jcollins]

What seems to be the problem jcollins ?

A man betrays his brother to death, a woman discards her own child and you say Christ is God.
I was asking posthuman what he thought we should do about the state of our world, relative to the scripture in a manner which might please God without accusing others of being servants of the devil, in opposition to God.

 

[jcollins]

No. Eisegesis is putting things into the text to make it say what you want it to say.

The text does say what its supposed to say.

 

[Dino246]

The text does say what its supposed to say.

I'm well aware of that, so I don't see your point.

 

[bojack]

A man betrays his brother to death, a woman discards her own child and you say Christ is God.
I was asking posthuman what he thought we should do about the state of our world, relative to the scripture in a manner which might please God without accusing others of being servants of the devil, in opposition to God.

Don't worry, Jesus is keeping score ... Are you on the right team ?

 

[jcollins]

Don't worry, Jesus is keeping score ... Are you on the right team ?

Oh you mean he's keeping a record of wrongs? Making a list, checking it twice, gonna find out... Wait; .Job 24 12. Didn't he, i think it, yeeees, it does say; I have come so they might have life and have it to the fullest. Forgive my.... sarcasm at your dismissal but even paul has a future hope, not to pick on him, but your illusory statement marches right in line with the world minds condescending reassurance, useful for calming a crying child, i know, jack -what patience is. I think three days and nights in the womb of earth is too long for the progenitor to suffer in soul, let alone 3000 years, and my hope, i guess, is that you and i can find the truth in others so they might recognize it in themselves and turn and he would heal them, then there is no team of cannon fodder to throw stones at us and themselves in the mirror while we go out and look with pity on them for their worm will not die, and the fire is never extinguished and their is no peace for anyone.

 

[bojack]

Oh you mean he's keeping a record of wrongs? Making a list, checking it twice, gonna find out... Wait; .Job 24 12. Didn't he, i think it, yeeees, it does say; I have come so they might have life and have it to the fullest. Forgive my.... sarcasm at your dismissal but even paul has a future hope, not to pick on him, but your illusory statement marches right in line with the world minds condescending reassurance, useful for calming a crying child, i know, jack -what patience is. I think three days and nights in the womb of earth is too long for the progenitor to suffer in soul, let alone 3000 years, and my hope, i guess, is that you and i can find the truth in others so they might recognize it in themselves and turn and he would heal them, then there is no team of cannon fodder to throw stones at us and themselves in the mirror while we go out and look with pity on them for their worm will not die, and the fire is never extinguished and their is no peace for anyone.

You sound angry, who are you angry at ?

 

[jcollins]

You sound angry, who are you angry at ?

Not angry, disappointed. One more group of people i have forced my fears upon only to have the sensation of teeth being sharpened upon me. From the religious i have so often heard, like i mentioned above, i was pitiful and should find christ or had to beg him on my knees to come into my life and heal me, but recognizing this genuflection as likely undesirable to a loving and understanding greater power, and coming to the conclusion there is no hidden city of light where the broken toys hide from persecution under the protection of the stuffed lion king until the full measure of devil weeds are destroyed, I have foolishly concluded we as men have a job to do, and we are responsible for every other person who is broken and we have failed yet another day and the oppressed are dying in our jails, in our mental wards, in their flesh without ever having lived, any of us...

The world accuses us of wrongdoing if we eat not to be eaten, then it breaks its own laws commanding we be ate. Meanwhile, the confluence of life, the discovery and spiritual reality of life we were given, the, true building and sharing of life and the coveted theophany sfumato which is every moment of every day is relegated to a moment here, a moment there, and those who refuse to do evil are made into a prey. How can i love my brother fully, knowing i have never met him? How can i demand you love me, when what i have shown you is only what i had to, in reaction to the context of my bitterness. For every heart knows its own bitterness, and no man can share its joy>

 

[bojack]

Not angry, disappointed. One more group of people i have forced my fears upon only to have the sensation of teeth being sharpened upon me. From the religious i have so often heard, like i mentioned above, i was pitiful and should find christ or had to beg him on my knees to come into my life and heal me, but recognizing this genuflection as likely undesirable to a loving and understanding greater power, and coming to the conclusion there is no hidden city of light where the broken toys hide from persecution under the protection of the stuffed lion king until the full measure of devil weeds are destroyed, I have foolishly concluded we as men have a job to do, and we are responsible for every other person who is broken and we have failed yet another day and the oppressed are dying in our jails, in our mental wards, in their flesh without ever having lived, any of us...

The world accuses us of wrongdoing if we eat not to be eaten, then it breaks its own laws commanding we be ate. Meanwhile, the confluence of life, the discovery and spiritual reality of life we were given, the, true building and sharing of life and the coveted theophany sfumato which is every moment of every day is relegated to a moment here, a moment there, and those who refuse to do evil are made into a prey. How can i love my brother fully, knowing i have never met him? How can i demand you love me, when what i have shown you is only what i had to, in reaction to the context of my bitterness. For every heart knows its own bitterness, and no man can share its joy>

So you're saying we all have a calling and some don't fulfill their calling, in fact neglect it totally .. I agree ...

 

[garee]

No. Eisegesis is putting things into the text to make it say what you want it to say.


Already provided.


You can offer, but it really would be better for you to read a dictionary.

I know what Eisegesis is.

Already provided where?

Better to look in the dictionary than mixing faith ?

 

[GyO]

Trinity (every person in the trinity has divine attributes):
1. God the Father
2. God the Son (Jesus Christ)
3. God the Holy Spirit

Before 0. Year --> Jesus Christ is God
Between 0. and 33. --> Jesus Christ is man
After 33. Year (resurrection). --> Jesus Christ is God

Remember!
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one"
Thus He is God because He is in the Father and the Father is in Him.

So who is Jesus Christ?
Answer: both God and man

 

[posthuman]

I was asking posthuman what he thought we should do about the state of our world

seek Him. believe Him.
walk humbly before God, instead of cursing Him and denying His word to you.
love justice and mercy, and look for it.