Why would you bring a facetious attitude to discussing Scripture?
Everything about you strikes me as being off in one way or another.
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Everything about you strikes me as being off in one way or another.
I had put a certain verse what Elijah was saying to the people to explain why i had spoken facetiously. But I was hinting around that Luke was the young man that had ran off naked and was the follower of Jesus at the cross that had taken Mary into his home, that he himself had made a statue of Whom.
Mary is the mother of the child Christ Jesus,and God is the Father of the child Christ Jesus.Mary is only the mother of the flesh.
God is an omnipresent Spirit,and His Spirit everywhere,which the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain God.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,which means God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
Jesus is a visible manifestation of God,flesh robed around the Spirit,but the Spirit is still through that flesh,for God is in all,and through all.
Take a tub of water,and put a glass in it.The water fills the glass,but the water in the glass is still connected to the water in the tub,all the same substance.That is like Jesus,He is God manifest in the flesh,but the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
God appeared to Abraham twice in human form,once with His 2 angels,and once as Melchizedek,king of Salem,but these were manifestations not born of a woman,but God made Him a body to appear to Abraham,but whether God makes Him a body to appear before someone,or that body is born of a woman,it is still God showing a visible manifestation of Himself,who at the same time is an omnipresent Spirit.God appeared in a bodily manifestation,but at the same time He is an omnipresent Spirit,for the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
Jesus is a visible manifestation of God,and Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves with Him,because the Spirit does not have to move,for the Spirit is already there,and where ever Jesus is at,He has the Spirit.If Jesus is at a certain spot,He has the Spirit that occupies that spot,and if He moves to a spot 10 feet away,He has the Spirit that occupies that spot,the same with us.
We do not have our own personal Spirit that moves around with us,but we move through the Spirit.Jesus has the fulness of God's attributes,where the saints have partial attributes,but the man Christ Jesus,and the saints,move through the Spirit,for the Spirit does not have to move,for He is already there,and where ever we are at,the Spirit is there.
Mary cannot be the mother of God,for God is an omnipresent Spirit,that cannot be separated,for He fills all space.Mary cannot give birth to the whole omnipresent Spirit of God,and if someone says she gave birth to some of the Spirit that is in Christ,this is not so,for the Spirit cannot be born,and the Spirit cannot be separated.
The truth is when the child Christ Jesus was in the womb of Mary,He occupied the Spirit that was in that space,and when He came out of the womb of Mary,He occupied the Spirit that was in that space.The Spirit did not move out with the child Christ Jesus,for the Spirit does not have to move.
Mary cannot be the mother of God,regardless,even if the Spirit could be separated,for the Spirit cannot be born,but the Spirit is omnipresent,and cannot be separated.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,which means that God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated,and Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves with Him,but He moves through the Spirit,and where ever He is at,the Spirit is there in Him.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Jesus dwells in the light which no person can approach unto,and no person has seen Jesus,and no person will ever see Jesus,because Jesus is an invisible,omnipresent,Spirit,that showed us a visible manifestation of Himself,and the Spirit in the man Christ Jesus,is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated,and God is in all,and through all.God does not go through material objects,but He flows through them,for God cannot be separated,and God is not part of the material world,for the material world,and His Spirit are separated,but He flows all through all material objects,for He cannot be separated.
Jesus is an omnipresent Spirit,which He said that He was on earth,and in heaven,at the same time,and told the thief on the cross,that he would be with Him that day in paradise,although He went to conquer death,hell,and the grave.
It is impossible for Mary to be the mother of God,for God is an omnipresent Spirit that cannot be separated,and any other way they try to look at it will not pan out,for God cannot be born.She is only the mother of the flesh.
God is an omnipresent Spirit,and His Spirit everywhere,which the heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain God.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,which means God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
Jesus is a visible manifestation of God,flesh robed around the Spirit,but the Spirit is still through that flesh,for God is in all,and through all.
Take a tub of water,and put a glass in it.The water fills the glass,but the water in the glass is still connected to the water in the tub,all the same substance.That is like Jesus,He is God manifest in the flesh,but the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
God appeared to Abraham twice in human form,once with His 2 angels,and once as Melchizedek,king of Salem,but these were manifestations not born of a woman,but God made Him a body to appear to Abraham,but whether God makes Him a body to appear before someone,or that body is born of a woman,it is still God showing a visible manifestation of Himself,who at the same time is an omnipresent Spirit.God appeared in a bodily manifestation,but at the same time He is an omnipresent Spirit,for the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated.
Jesus is a visible manifestation of God,and Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves with Him,because the Spirit does not have to move,for the Spirit is already there,and where ever Jesus is at,He has the Spirit.If Jesus is at a certain spot,He has the Spirit that occupies that spot,and if He moves to a spot 10 feet away,He has the Spirit that occupies that spot,the same with us.
We do not have our own personal Spirit that moves around with us,but we move through the Spirit.Jesus has the fulness of God's attributes,where the saints have partial attributes,but the man Christ Jesus,and the saints,move through the Spirit,for the Spirit does not have to move,for He is already there,and where ever we are at,the Spirit is there.
Mary cannot be the mother of God,for God is an omnipresent Spirit,that cannot be separated,for He fills all space.Mary cannot give birth to the whole omnipresent Spirit of God,and if someone says she gave birth to some of the Spirit that is in Christ,this is not so,for the Spirit cannot be born,and the Spirit cannot be separated.
The truth is when the child Christ Jesus was in the womb of Mary,He occupied the Spirit that was in that space,and when He came out of the womb of Mary,He occupied the Spirit that was in that space.The Spirit did not move out with the child Christ Jesus,for the Spirit does not have to move.
Mary cannot be the mother of God,regardless,even if the Spirit could be separated,for the Spirit cannot be born,but the Spirit is omnipresent,and cannot be separated.
Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,which means that God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus,and the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated,and Jesus does not have His own Spirit that moves with Him,but He moves through the Spirit,and where ever He is at,the Spirit is there in Him.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Jesus dwells in the light which no person can approach unto,and no person has seen Jesus,and no person will ever see Jesus,because Jesus is an invisible,omnipresent,Spirit,that showed us a visible manifestation of Himself,and the Spirit in the man Christ Jesus,is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God,for God cannot be separated,and God is in all,and through all.God does not go through material objects,but He flows through them,for God cannot be separated,and God is not part of the material world,for the material world,and His Spirit are separated,but He flows all through all material objects,for He cannot be separated.
Jesus is an omnipresent Spirit,which He said that He was on earth,and in heaven,at the same time,and told the thief on the cross,that he would be with Him that day in paradise,although He went to conquer death,hell,and the grave.
It is impossible for Mary to be the mother of God,for God is an omnipresent Spirit that cannot be separated,and any other way they try to look at it will not pan out,for God cannot be born.She is only the mother of the flesh.
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Tintin
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4enlightenment, what are you smoking? I used to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're talking absolute crap of late.
In order to understand what I had put down, you must know the scriptures by heart, from A to Z. Like Jesus spoke of certain things that the only ones that could understand it, ones that had put their heart to it. that is why Jesus said that we has to truly believe without any doubt, because doubt causes a person to be double minded as you are. Are you still trying to chase people from off the site. But it does sound like you are smoking more that just marijuana by your attitude.
I have to agree with Tintin. You make absolutely no sense. I think it's purposeful in order to appear like you know something that you don't know, and to hide what you really believe. I asked you a point blank question earlier, and you responded with obfuscating BS.
John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
It is saying that anyone that is led by the spirit doesn't hold onto a certain pattern or tradition. If you says that you belong to this sect (section) of this religion, that you are doing is dividing up the house. Did the disciples chosen side when the Hebraic Jews were quarreling with the Hellenistic Jews? When you hold onto a certain pattern, as it is called organized religion. That even the non believers that visit this sites and others always speaking about, why is they disputing against each other but they has the same God? they get mad if you doesn't follow this certain pattern. but I tell them that they are not Christians, but the non believers still just categorized them as organize religion and fundamentalist. Jesus did not had no certain pattern that He followed and that verse about one of the disciples had said that he being led by the spirit to go to Jerusalem, but he doesn't know what is going to happen when he get there. All he know is that the wind is blowing him over there. what ever I had put down, it is all scriptures and I mean all of the scriptures, including the ones that were rejected by the church. Believe me that you do not know how much that I know about the scriptures. Some says that whatever that are in this book is all I need to know, that is because they are following that same ole' pattern that was past down to them from generation after generation. And all they know is that Jesus is love and love is Jesus.
You, IMO, are doing what all gnostics/mystics ultimately do in order to hide what they really believe and appear superior in knowledge. Actually, they can't explain what they believe clearly because it's not based on any coherent doctrine, but upon mystical experience, which is entirely personal and therefore non-communicable. That's why they need many words to try to explain what it is they're trying to say. Yet they can never get across what they are trying to say because they have nothing to say.
The truth doesn't need a lot of words to get its point across.
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What [is] the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. [Is] not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer [that] breaketh the rock in pieces? Jeremiah 23:28-29
Ephesians 4
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds[SUP][c][/SUP] and teachers,[SUP][d][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, [SUP]13 [/SUP]until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood,[SUP][e][/SUP] to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, [SUP]14 [/SUP]so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, [SUP]16 [/SUP]from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.
Titus 1
[SUP]9 [/SUP]He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound[SUP][f][/SUP] doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party.[SUP][g][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach.
James 1
[SUP]5 [/SUP]If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. [SUP]6 [/SUP]But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; [SUP]8 [/SUP]he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
1 Timothy 6
[SUP]3 [/SUP]If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound[SUP][a][/SUP] words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, [SUP]4 [/SUP]he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, [SUP]5 [/SUP]and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
1 Corinthians 14
[SUP]33 [/SUP]For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Not all tradition is bad. There is a such thing as fundamentally sound doctrine. It's traditions of men that are bad.
actually it doesn't say anything of the kind. it says that the person who is born of the Spirit is so because the Spirit has chosen to work within him in bringing about the new birth regardless of human activity,
God is at work, not man
4enlightment, have you ever accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
Most if not all of what you are saying is from men, not from the Holy Spirit.
You may think you know what the Scriptures say and you may have read all the Scriptures. But without the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you cannot understand what the Holy Spirit is saying in the Scriptures.
1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
We do not need to listen to what you say for we who have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit are taught by the Holy Spirit.
Until you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit, you cannot see nor know the Truth from God.
Most if not all of what you are saying is from men, not from the Holy Spirit.
You may think you know what the Scriptures say and you may have read all the Scriptures. But without the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit you cannot understand what the Holy Spirit is saying in the Scriptures.
1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
We do not need to listen to what you say for we who have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit are taught by the Holy Spirit.
Until you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit, you cannot see nor know the Truth from God.
Everyone must understand we are not to ever judge, least of all by appearances.
It is written some people will be disobedient by God's will.....a warning for all not to judge.
It is written that some pagans have the truth in their hearts and their own consciences accuse and excuse them as they act, another recommendation not to judge, especially by appearances.
Also we are taught the most important and meaningful lesson from the Word is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His Crucifixion, all leading to salvation.
We should never be overly concerned with points of Scripture unless it is detrimental to Salvation, the Gospel or Jesus for they are all the same.
Let us keep our hearts and eyes on these important facets of familial interaction. God bless all in Jesus Christ.....amen
It is written some people will be disobedient by God's will.....a warning for all not to judge.
It is written that some pagans have the truth in their hearts and their own consciences accuse and excuse them as they act, another recommendation not to judge, especially by appearances.
Also we are taught the most important and meaningful lesson from the Word is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, His Crucifixion, all leading to salvation.
We should never be overly concerned with points of Scripture unless it is detrimental to Salvation, the Gospel or Jesus for they are all the same.
Let us keep our hearts and eyes on these important facets of familial interaction. God bless all in Jesus Christ.....amen
It says in John, that darkness did not comprehended the light. but the Roman, Canaanite woman, Tax collector and prostitute were the only ones that understood Him.
Matthew 13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
Matthew 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’
John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.
2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Well to me, it sounds as Jesus was speaking mystical. But I doesn't know why, that it is written clear as day what Jesus is saying, but some are unable to understand it. Maybe if they has ears, they be able to hear.
Matthew 13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
Matthew 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’
John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.
2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Well to me, it sounds as Jesus was speaking mystical. But I doesn't know why, that it is written clear as day what Jesus is saying, but some are unable to understand it. Maybe if they has ears, they be able to hear.
mystical
- : having a spiritual meaning that is difficult to see or understand
- : of or relating to mystics or mysticism : resulting from prayer or deep thought
Mystical | Definition of Mystical by Merriam-Webster
I had went on another online discussion site that doesn't deal with Christianity, but mysticism. But some understands and accepted and compared their belief with Christianity. because they focus on the spiritual meanings of the words like a poet does, but not by the letter or by the natural. But the purpose that I had went to this site, that is to let others become aware of GMO foods that is causing all sorts of ailments that these corporations knows about it, but instead of trying to remove it from the shelves, they went and merged with pharmaceutical company (Pzier) to profit off of these ailments that their products are causing.
Not only does this not answer my question; Do I have accountability issues if I don't view Jesus's mom, as Catholics do? I might have to disagree with your "Judgement" statement. Also from Jesus's mouth?
"Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 7:24. "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man" 1 Cor 2:15
No, she isn't the Mother of God, because God is the Father; but you are supposed to honor your mother as well as the Father. But if you want to go ahead and disrespect her, then do what you want.
That last part was sort of, not nessessary. My mother and father weren't my question. There was no reason to talk like that. I never said a word about disrespecting Mary. But thanx for that.
I think they totally misunderstood what you said. They
seem to have read the opposite of what you meant into it.