Jezebel Queen of False Prophets and the Jezebel Spirit

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Instead of shifting blame to some "spirit" or "spiritual dynamic," why don't we call sin what scripture calls it:

"But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death." James 1:14-15

"But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells;" Romans 7:17-18

Let's quit looking for "the devil made me do it excuses" and pray the Lord will help us overcome the flesh by His Spirit.
 
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Just as we are not endorsing any particular evangelical position that asserts the Jezebel Spirit, neither are we endorsing the counter-claim and critical denominations that regard that there may in fact be no Jezebel Spirit and that perhaps the use of the topic in Protestant denominations in modern America's evangelical movement are kind of like charlatans using the topic of Jezebel Spirit for like a pageantry. In a sort of ironic fashion though to their chagrin their argument is somewhat self-defeating because in a sense that they do rightly point out, a lot of the groups both for and against Jezebel Spirit do have like these strong female leaders and this permissive attitude towards committing the worst of the sexual sins, sins the Bible objectively regards as worthy of death for at least the emphasis of their severity if you consider this in a more spiritual light, and of course alot of these groups and Christian preachers and mini-celebrities are well known for being littered with famous modern false prophets, which nevermind their scam, this is itself eerily reminiscent of historical/biblical Jezebel the Queen of False Prophets! Thus deepens then the B plotline of the mystery of the Jezebel Spirit spoken of so much in modern Christianity and even beyond it into the wider secular pop culture. So it is both sides might have some good points of view while at the same time having a sort of poetic chagrin as well.

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Again just going to state the disclaimer that this is not an endorsement of any particular denomination or sect we examine nor any of that as I delve a little deeper into the possibilities of the Jezebel Spirit. It's just merely since it is something of a very popular topic in modern times across many different denominations and points of view in Christianity as well as has some connection to the Bible we logically now look at their points of view that range from some differing points of view you all have even expressed so far. We'll wade into now a point of view that does regard there being a Jezebel Spirit but it is not the more extreme view, which we will cover, but portrays the Jezebel Spirit as a real spirit but maybe not as an outright singular entity, but rather as something of a spiritual dynamic based on sins and behaviors associated to the historical Jezebel of the Bible's story as well as Jezebel of Revelation. This video will list out several evil behavioral disorder traits and sins that we see linked and connected to Jezebel like as some have mentioned before; Jezebel manipulation, persecution of the church, association with idolatry and sexual sins, and so forth.

I see the Jezebel Spirit as the first born flesh that Is in unbelief to God and Son as risen for new life in God's Spirit and truth to learn new in thanks
 
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Well again going to preface like the opening example videos of the other overarching points of view on the Jezebel Spirit that this not an endorsement of them or their sects, consider this merely to try to get the basic pieces on the table in order to see what we got here. While there is a range and nuances internally in the various Protestant denominations regarding Jezebel Spirit we'll break it into three broad camps; First is what we'll call the Non-existence/Skeptical viewpoint whether they outright are hostile to the idea of it as a scam or for just practical reasons of there is not Jezebel Spirit in the Bible indeed, though there is an acknowledged here value in knowing the scriptures and examining society and and the Bible in even a secular rather than spiritual way. The second camp is a sort of what we'll call the Midlleground camp with the idea that there is a valid sorta of spiritual context but not an outright demon, that is to say there's a Jezebel Spirit of sorts in a metaphorical sense or a pattern of behaviors that though not directly a spirit are closely tied to hard canon Jezebel of the Bible. Finally, yes, it is controversial, again not an endorsement by me, but we cannot neglect to put it forth at least for the sake of getting a view of the subject that now must look at the final main camp, the camp that does indeed believe that there is a personalized Spiritual Entity, specifically that of a demon.

 
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Well I think after a brief pause in the Bible study part of the topic to touch on the pop topic of Jezebel Spirit and getting a grasp for the three major camps of it that we will return to the Bible. We will now examine in shortness the possibility of Jezebel Spirit inhabitting someone different or depending on your viewpoint that is to say a character we've already touched on who is both physically related to Jezebel as well as spiritually holds some qualities and sins similar to her. We will now resume the narrative right where we left off with Jehu smiting Joram and Jezebel of the northern kingdom of Israel and king Ahaziah of Judah and thus bringing the prophecy to destroy the dynasty of Ahab nearly to a close and historical Jezebel's personal story definitively to a close. Yet in Judah remains one last powerful member of the Omride dynasty, Athaliah daughter of Jezebel and the only woman in the entire history of Israel to ever outright rule their land.

Here's an interesting subplot to keep in mind after looking at the Jezebel Spirit side of the topic too from the videos for the camp that believes there is a Jezebel Spirit the Entity camp as we're terming it that there's this interesting idea and a strong central to many evangelical and pentecostal type denominations of protestantism, especially ones dealing with deliverance minsitry or exorcism as it is known. This is an idea, and I am not endorsing ait at all, but personally actually oppose it, but nevertheless for the sake of the discussion and plot I want to call attention to this idea of "generational curses" thus in their camp's view they think they inherit evil spiritual entities. The Middleground might be of mind to point out that sin is not inherited, but to spare us devolving into that milk topic stake out a position that Athaliah does not have a demon but has a Jezebel Spirit in a sense because she commits sins like and is related to Jezebel, that she is basically a continuation of Jezebel's overall culture and influence into the southern kingdom of Judah now this time. Finally the Skeptical camp could easily maintain that there is no Jezebel Spirit and any likeness to Jezebel can be explained by the fact that Athaliah is very likely her very own daughter and her reasons are not really spiritual but are very secular in manner and her conenction to Jezebel is secular in manner and of course her impending death will herald a definitive end to Jezebel and any spiritual qualities surrounding her or her house or her culture in Israel and Judah.

Whatever camp you may be, feel free to drop your two cents, and even any nuances you think. I will now progressively finish off Athaliah's story in parts, but she will not be so long to rule as a wicked queen as her mother Jezebel did reign. For the positive aspect too, take note of the, in my opinion, most underrated good biblical female protagonists as well in the person of Jehosheba. Besides just to bring value to remembering God and the good guys side in it is all Jehosheba becomes interesting in her own right to the topic of the Jezebel Spirit as it is is she may herself be related to Athaliah and may be her own daughter and consequently the granddaughter of Jezebel thus providing an interesting foil to the 3 camps views of the Jezebel Spirit and the idea of generational curses, learning the way or turning forom the sins of one's parents, and skepticism of the spiritual qualities to it all when they're very present to be studied but perhaps just misunderstood.

2 Kings 11:1-3


1 And when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal.

2 But Jehosheba, the daughter of king Joram, sister of Ahaziah, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king's sons which were slain; and they hid him, even him and his nurse, in the bedchamber from Athaliah, so that he was not slain.

3 And he was with her hid in the house of the Lord six years. And Athaliah did reign over the land.

2 Chronicles 22:1-12

1 And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.

2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

3 He also walked in the ways of the house of Ahab: for his mother was his counsellor to do wickedly.

4 Wherefore he did evil in the sight of the Lord like the house of Ahab: for they were his counsellors after the death of his father to his destruction.

5 He walked also after their counsel, and went with Jehoram the son of Ahab king of Israel to war against Hazael king of Syria at Ramothgilead: and the Syrians smote Joram.

6 And he returned to be healed in Jezreel because of the wounds which were given him at Ramah, when he fought with Hazael king of Syria. And Azariah the son of Jehoram king of Judah went down to see Jehoram the son of Ahab at Jezreel, because he was sick.

7 And the destruction of Ahaziah was of God by coming to Joram: for when he was come, he went out with Jehoram against Jehu the son of Nimshi, whom the Lord had anointed to cut off the house of Ahab.

8 And it came to pass, that, when Jehu was executing judgment upon the house of Ahab, and found the princes of Judah, and the sons of the brethren of Ahaziah, that ministered to Ahaziah, he slew them.

9 And he sought Ahaziah: and they caught him, (for he was hid in Samaria,) and brought him to Jehu: and when they had slain him, they buried him: Because, said they, he is the son of Jehoshaphat, who sought the Lord with all his heart. So the house of Ahaziah had no power to keep still the kingdom.

10 But when Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all the seed royal of the house of Judah.

11 But Jehoshabeath, the daughter of the king, took Joash the son of Ahaziah, and stole him from among the king's sons that were slain, and put him and his nurse in a bedchamber. So Jehoshabeath, the daughter of king Jehoram, the wife of Jehoiada the priest, (for she was the sister of Ahaziah,) hid him from Athaliah, so that she slew him not.

12 And he was with them hid in the house of God six years: and Athaliah reigned over the land.

 

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There is variety of opinions on jezable Spirit. From lust to false doctrine. In 1 kings chapter 16.

Jezable brought baal priests to Israel She was heathen. Satan heads baal worship. She forced people to worship baal.
Now a characterize of her, may define what is meant by jezebel Spirit. Domineering and control of others. Especially in the spiritual realm. She ordered the murder of prophets.

Second example. She had righteous Naboth killed for his vine yard.
Jezebel was actually power behind the throne. Ahab was wicked man, and Weak. He went along with the wicked.

Revelation chapter 2
Church of Thratira could be said to be acting in the Spirit of jezebel. Priests don't teach repentance, and promote false teachings.

1 Timothy chapter 4
Now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the Faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrine of devils.

Some false shepherd's teach tradition of men and false doctrine. We must practice spiritual discernment.

There are some good churches left. But there's also dead churches.

Beware of false brethren/shepherds.

Peace.