Job Chapter eight

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WORK!

 

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LEARNING AGAIN AND AGAIN!

 

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Can you speak about your near-death experience if it is not too personal and if you don't mind? I would like to put the puzzle together! Or at least get some elements!

 

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What does he ask of his friends? What doesn't he want from them?

Job wants them to understand his mistake. He wants them to speak honestly and look at him. But he doesn’t want their reproof. And he doesn’t want them to misjudge him. But if we listen to his companions it seems that Job doesn’t know anything and that they know everything.

In fact, Job suffers physically and mentally. Like in the parable of the good Samaritan they could heal his injuries. Then you listen and you listen just asking the right questions showing your concern but you don’t make accusations. It is necessary to be positive not negative. Otherwise it can only be worse. Then you must help him to recover and encourage him and you stay with him.

 

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https://thoughtcatalog.com/holly-riordan/2018/05/ancient-greek-names/

343 Ancient Greek Names And Their Meanings

1. Achilles — Warrior
2. Aegeus — Protector
3. Aeneas — Praising
4. Aeschylus — Shame
5. Agafya — Good hearted
6. Agammemnon — Resolute
7. Agape — Love and affection
8. Agata — Good hearted
9. Agatha — Good hearted
10. Agda — Good hearted
11. Aggie – Sacred, Chaste
12. Agnes — Sacred, Chaste
13. Agneta — Sacred, Chaste
14. Agnete — Sacred, Chaste
15. Agnetha — Sacred, Chaste
16. Agnieszka — Sacred, Chaste
17. Agot — Good hearted
18. Agota — Good hearted
19. Agueda — Good hearted
20. Aileen — Torch of light
21. Aindrea — Manly
22. Ajax — Powerful eagle
23. Alastair — Defender of the people
24. Ale — Defender of man
25. Alec — Defending men
26. Alecta — Ceaseless
27. Alecto — Ceaseless
28. Aleixo — Defender of man
29. Alejandra — Protector of humanity
30. Alejandro — Defender of man
31. Aleksander — Defender of man
32. Aleksanteri — Defender of man
33. Alena — Torch of light
34. Ales — Defender of man
35. Alessa — Protector of humanity
36. Alessandra — Protector of humanity
37. Alessandro — Protector of humanity
38. Aleta — Truthful
39. Alethea — Truthful
40. Alex – Protector of humanity
41. Alexa – Protector of humanity
42. Alexander — Defender of man
43. Alexandra — Protector of humanity
44. Alexis — Helper
45. Alexius — Helper
46. Anaxagoras — Lord
47. Bakchos — To shout
48. Berenike — Bringer of victory
49. Bion — Life
50. Cadmus — The east

 

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51. Caiaphas — To raise up
52. Calisto — Most beautiful
53. Callidora — Gift of beauty
54. Calligenia– beauty born
55. Callisto– Most beautiful
56. Celandine — A swallow bird
57. Chara — Happiness
58. Charalampos — Shining happiness
59. Chariton — Grace, kindness
60. Charon — Fierce brightness
61. Chloris — Green
62. Chrysanthe — Golden flower
63. Chryseis — Golden
64. Cyanea — Sky blue
65. Cymone — Hearkening
66. Damali — Calf
67. Damalis — Calf
68. Damaris — Calf
69. Damokles — Glory of the people
70. Damon — To tame
71. Danae — Parched
72. Dareia — Wealthy
73. Deimos — Fear, terror
74. Demeter — Of Earth
75. Demetra — Earth mother
76. Desma — Pledge, vow
77. Despoina — Mistress
78. Despoine– Mistress
79. Diantha — G0d flower
80. Dianthe — God flower
81. Diona — The goddess
82. Dione — The goddess
83. Dorcia — Gazelle
84. Dorus — Gift
85. Drakon — Dragon
86. Echo — Sound
87. Efimia — Well spoken
88. Efrosyni — Joy, mirth
89. Efthalia — Flourishing
90. Eileithyia — The ready comer
91. Eirene — Peace
92. Elias — The lord is my God
93. Eleftheria — The liberator
94. Elektra — Bright, shining
95. Elene- Torch
96. Eleni– Torch
97. Elisavet — God is my oath
98. Elissa — Wanderer
99. Elpida — Hope
100. Elpis — Hope

 

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101. Enyo — Horror
102. Eos — Dawn
103. Erato — Lovely
104. Erika — Work power
105. Eris — Strife
106. Euadne– Good and holy
107. Eudokia — To seem well
108. Eudora — Good gift
109. Eudoxia — Good glory
110. Eugenia — Well born
111. Eumelia — Melody
112. Eunike — Good victory
113. Eupheme — Well spoken
114. Euphrosyne — Joy, mirth
115. Eupraxia — Good action
116. Eurybia — Wide, violent force
117. Eurydike — Wide justice
118. Euterpe — Giver of pleasure
119. Euthalia — Well blooming
120. Eutropia — Versatile
121. Evgenia– Well born
122. Fotios — Light
123. Fotis — Light
124. Frona — Self-controlled
125. Gaia — Earth
126. Gennadios — Noble
127. Gerasimos — Old age
128. Gregorios — Watchful
129. Glykeria — Sweet
130. Gorgophone — Murderer
131. Haemon — Bloody
132. Haides — Unseen
133. Halkyone — Kingfisher
134. Harmonia — Harmony
135. Hebe — Young
136. Hecuba — Far off
137. Hekate — Far off
138. Heli — Ascend
139. Helios — Sun
140. Hermes — Of the Earth
141. Hermia — Of the Earth
142. Hermione — Of the Earth
143. Hero — Hero
144. Herodotos — Hero given
145 .Hestia — Fireside
146. Hesiod — To send song
147. Hilarion — Joyful, happy
148. Hippokrates — Horse power
149. Hippolyte — Horse freer
150. Homer — Hostage

 

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151. Horus — The distant one
152. Hyginos — Healthy
253. Hypatios — Supreme
154. Hypatia — Supreme
155. Iantha — Violent flower
156. Ianthe — Violent flower
157. Ioanna — God is gracious
158. Iason — To heal
159. Iduma — Red
160. Iesos — God is salvation
161. Ikaros — Follower
162. Ioannes — God is gracious
163. Iola — Violet
164. Iole — Violet
165. Iphigenia — Strong born
166. Iris — Rainbow
167. Isokrates — Equal power
168. Jonas — Dove
169. Judas — He who is praised
170. Jude — He who is praised
171. Kadmos — The east
172. Kallias — Beauty
173. Kalliope — Beautiful voice
174. Kallisto — Most beautiful
175. Kalypso — Cover, conceal
176. Karpos — Fruit
177. Kastor — Beaver
178. Kephalos — Head
179. Kepheus — Gardener
180. Kerberos — Demon of the pit
181. Khristos — anointed
182. Kleio — Glory
183. Kleitos — Glory
184. Kleopatra — Glory of the father
185. Klotho — Spinner
186. Klymene — Praiseworthy might
187. Klytie — Famous
188. Kore — Maiden
189. Korinna — Maiden
190. Kosmos — Beauty, order
191. Kronos — Horn
192. Kyriake — Of the Lord
193. Lachesis — Apportioner
194. Lazarus — My God has helped
195. Leandros — Lion man
196. Leda — Woman
197. Lefteris — Liberator
198. Leto — The hidden one
199. Ligeia — Shrill voice
200. Lykourgos — Wolf work

 

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201. Lysimachos — Freedom fighter
202. Macedon — The tall one
203. Maeja — Mother
204. Maia — Mother
205. Makarios — Blessed
206. Manasses — Causing to forget
207. Margarites — Pearl
208. Mathias — Gift of God
209. Medeia — Cunning
210. Medousa — Guardian
211. Megaira — To grudge
212. Melaina — Dark
213. Melantha — Dark flower
214. Melina — Honey
215. Melita — Honey bee
216. Melpomene — Choir
217. Mentor — Spirit
218. Methodios — Method
219. Miltiades — Red earth
220. Minta — Defender
221. Mneme — Memory
222. Morpheus — Shape
223. Myron — Myrrh
224. Narkissa — Numbness, sleep
225. Natasa — Resurrection
226. Nemesis — Retribution
227. Nephele — Cloudy
228. Nephthys — Lady of the house
229. Nereus — Water
230. Nestor — Homecoming
231. Nike — Victory
232. Nikephoros — Bearer of victory
233. Nomiki — Relating to the law
234. Nyx — Night
235. Oedipus — Sore feet
236. Oinone — Wine
237. Okeanos — Ocean
238. Olysseus — To hate
239. Onesimos — Beneficial
240. Ophelos — Help
241. Origen — Mountain born
242. Orpheus — Darkness of night
243. Oulixes — To hate
244. Ourania — Heavenly
245. Ouranos — The heavens
246. Paeon — Healer
247. Paris — Wager
248. Pallas — To wield a weapon
249. Pamphilos — Friend of all
250. Pandora — All gift

 

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251. Panos — All holy
252. Pantheras — Panther
253. Paraskeve — Preparation
254. Parthenia — Virgin
255. Parthenope — Virgin voice
256. Pavlos — Small
257. Pelagios — The sea
258. Penelope — Weaver of cunning
259. Persephone — Person slayer
260. Persis — Persian woman
261. Phaidra — Bright
262. Phaidros — Bright
263. Phile — To love
264. Philemon — Affectionate
265. Philomena — Sweet singer
266. Photine — Light
267. Phyllidos — Foliage
268. Phyllis — Foliage
269. Platon — Broad, flat
270. Polydeuces — Sweet
271. Polyxene — Hospitable
272. Poseidon — Distribution lord
273. Psyche — Animated spirit, soul
274. Ptolema — Aggressive
275. Pyrros — Flame like
276. Rhea — Menstruation
277. Rhoda — Rose
278. Roxane — Dawn
279. Sappho — Saphire
280. Sara — Princess
281. Selene — Moon
282. Semele — Of the Earth
283. Sethos — Dazzle
284. Smeme — Knowledge
285. Sofia — Wisdom
286. Solon — Wisdom
287. Sophos — Clever
288. Sophronia — Self-controlled
289. Sostrate — Safe army
290. Sotiria — Salvation
291. Sousanna — Lily
292. Spyridoula — Spirit
293. Spyro — Spirit
294. Stamatia — Stop
295. Stelios — Pillar
296. Straton — Army
297. Syntyche — Common fate
298. Takis — All holy
299. Tanis — Serpent lady
300. Tedora — Gift of God

 

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301. Telamon — Support
302. Teris — Liberator
303. Terpsichore — Enjoying the dance
304. Thais — Bandage
305. Thalia — Flourishing
306. Thales — Blossom
307. Than — Death
308. Thanos — Immortal
309. Thecla — Glory of God
310. Thekla — Glory of God
311. Themis — Law
312. Therapon — Servant
313. Theron — Hunter
314. Thoth — He who balances
315. Timaios — Honor
316. Timo — Honor
317. Tisiphone — Avenging murder
318. Titos — White clay, white earth
319. Tobias — God is good
320. Tryphaina — Delicate, soft
321. Tryphosa — Delicate, soft
322. Tychon — Hitting the mark
323. Urias — God is my light
324. Usiris — Good tidings
325. Vasilis — King
326. Vasiliki — King, queen
327. Xanthe — Yellow
328. Xanthia — Yellow
329. Xanthippe — Yellow
330. Xanthippos — Yellow horse
331. Xene — Stranger
332. Xenophon — Strange voice
333. Xerxes — Ruler over heroes
334. Yanni — God is gracious
335. Yorgos — Farmer
336. Zacharias — God has remembered
337. Zebedee — God has given
338. Zoe — Life
339. Zona — Belt
340. Zephyr — West wind
341. Zopyros — Glowing
342.Zosime — Survivor
343. Zotikos — Full of life

 

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Is Zophar making the same argument as Bildad (chapter 18)? In what sense does Zophar answer Job's previous speech? Or does he?

Yes, the wicked man will be destroyed by God. So it is the same argument. So he tries to answer Job again by saying he is wrong and he is wicked.

With the third and final speech by Eliphaz, the debate takes a nastier turn. What does Eliphaz accuse Job of?

He says that God doesn’t care about Job and his integrity. On the contrary, Job is wicked and made many errors and he makes a summary of all his false accusations against Job (seize a pledge from his brothers, strip people of their garments, didn’t give water to a tired one or food to the hungry one and let the widows and fatherless children empty-handed).

 

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According to Elihu, Job is like the wicked.(34:7-8, 36) Why? What has Job done which is so reprehensible?

Because he has said there is no benefit trying to please God and he speaks against God.

Do people have any power to manipulate God, according to Elihu?

Human actions can’t affect God !

 

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Do you find the arguments of Eliphaz, Bildad and Zophar credible today? That is, do you believe that wickedness and righteousness get their reward in this life? Is there a "moral structure" to the universe which is centered upon compensating or punishing human behavior?

That’s really a good question. A drug dealer can make a lot of money but he must always be careful, he spends his life using violence but like a boomerang it can also be struck by violence. He can be caught by justice. He can kill and be killed. Usually you need to be a shark if you want to become rich and the atmosphere is artificial. Of course, we live in an artificial world with many simulations, is that happiness. It seems to be an empty world with no hope, just illusions as we see the world going down. When you try to be right as far as it is possible in this world, you may not be rich, but having moral values help a lot to be in peace with oneself and the hope of having the possibility to work one day for God in a world controlled by him feels the heart and the mind with serenity.

 

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https://www.olivetree.com/blog/big-questions-from-the-book-of-job/

Is God responsible for what Satan does?

God permitted Satan to attack Job, so in that sense God was responsible (1:12; 2:6). But God is not morally responsible for Satan’s wickedness. Since the Bible teaches that God is holy (Lev. 11:45) and righteous in all His ways (Psalm 145:17), we know He does not devise evil (James 1:13–15). He cannot be made a scapegoat for Satan’s destructive activities.


Satan is the great liar who chose to defy God and was banished from God’s presence with the other fallen angels (Luke 10:18). Satan is called the prince of this world (John 12:31). Christ’s entrance onto the stage of human history was the long-promised part of God’s plan to redeem the world from his tyranny. Satan’s final judgment awaits the return of Christ and the consummation of the age when Satan is cast into the abyss (Rev. 20:10).


Tracing evil back to God has been much debated throughout the centuries. Theologically, we know that God is holy and reigns supreme, yet Satan has limited power within the parameters of God’s sovereignty. Evil in no way can be traced back to God in terms of culpability for it. Although God knows good and evil (Gen. 3:22), He is good (Psalm 100:5) and is good to all (Psalm 145:9); He takes no pleasure in evil (Psalm 5:4).


I have nothing to say against this answer! For sure one day God will eradicate evil from the universe and no one will have the right to discuss his authority on all his creation!

 

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https://www.kevinathompson.com/37-questions-answers-book-job/

8. Did God ever tell Job of the conversation that happened between God and Satan?

Not that we know of. It’s one of the great questions I’ve had about the book—why didn’t God let Job know? I assume it was one of the great experiences of heaven as Job saw what had happened. So it will probably be for us; when we get to heaven we will see all the times God was working in ways we did not understand.

Yes, the book of Job doesn’t say anything about it. But most important God blessed Job a lot more and not only that but he condemned Job’s three companions and he put them in his hands and he was careful when he spoke to job as he never did with any human being in the Bible and he took the time to explain him there are matters human beings have no idea at all !

 

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Considering how hard the book of Job is to read and understand the first time, what is the best way to communicate the lessons to someone else?

I wouldn’t feel pressure to explain everything. I would try to understand these lessons for ourselves, live by them, and be prepared to assist people in the midst of suffering. However, my goal would not be for the person to completely understand as much as it would create in them a desire to know. Pray that God would give you the words to say which will whet their appetite for more.

I like the expression « whet their appetite for more » ! Yes the more we read the Bible and think about it the more we need to keep doing it ! And the book of Job goes in this direction ! It is an invitation to a journey that will turn our thoughts into something else or help us open our eyes !

 

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Job was an adult; what do we as adults tell children about the suffering they experience?


All we can do is to assist them in the midst of suffering. It’s important that we are not an Eliphaz, Bildad, or Zophar as a parent. Our children do not need trite answers or parents who deny the realities of life. They need God in the midst of their suffering. This world hurts and they will be stung by the sorrows of this world. In those moments, our children need us to be able to point them toward truth. We may not be able to understand everything, but we can provide deep truths—God is in control; He loves us; He uses suffering to reveal himself to us; and this world is not our home and won’t be made right until Jesus returns. The experience of suffering by our children should drive us to know God more so that we can tell them about him.

There are good ideas here. Personally I would start listening to them and let them express their suffering because it must go out again and again And I would try to pray with them to show them how important the prayer is to get in touch with God and how real it is to me. And I would like to go out and walk with them and be one with nature and do things together to be active and build something, they must know I will always be there for them !

 

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37. I have never suffered like Job, how does this book apply to me?

Everyone suffers. We should never compare one suffering to another. While each suffering has unique characteristics, they also share common qualities. Even if we haven’t suffered to Job’s extent, we can learn from his experience. We should never diminish someone’s suffering as insignificant because it appears less than ours.

We have a lot to learn about Job’s experience and we must also prepare ourselves because when it happens, if it happens, it can be destructive ! And it is always easier when we are mentammy prepared !

 

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Final Conclusion

When we are feeling stressed and frustrated and wounded by this world may we step back and take a look at all of God’s creation. Get outside under the big sky and remind yourself who your God is. Then, get into His word and learn more about God’s love for you. Trust that if he can create and sustain the entire universe, surely He will take care of you.

Yes, but not only look at but observe carefully God’s creation and the daily miracle of life and then we do the same with God’s word the Bible, we must get deep inside day after day !