King Charles is crowned king

[ZNP]

I have a few questions for ZNP. After all, I started the thread Spare just to get a handle on what the Royal family are saying about themselves.

At various points you mention a statue of King Charles with wings. Where is this statue? Could you post a picture? I don't live in the UK so I wouldn't know too much about it. I do know there is a giant statue called the Angel of...somewhere near the motorway in the North of England.
There are lots of statues of Queen Victoria everywhere.
There has been a statue of Princess Diana meant to memorialise her holding hands with two (unknown) children. I have always wondered who the children were in the original photo where she wore a skirt that was see-through (at the time, she didn't think anyone would see through it) at the Kindy she was working in. I have tried to find the names of these children, a boy and a girl, and what they remember or say about her now they are grown up. Just for my own curiousity really. They would be in their early 50s by now I reckon.

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An imposing statue featuring Prince Charles as a 'winged hero' appeared in South America, with the engraved title "Prince Charles Savior of the World".

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A remote Brazilian town in the Amazon honored the Prince of Wales with a giant bronze statue depicting him as a winged hero "saving the world," a lean, muscular figure in a loincloth with angel-like wings, meant to dominate a town square named after Charles, per a Daily Mail piece archived in The Free Library.

When the Bible says in the prophecy about the anti-christ/the man of perdition (correct me if I am wrong) not regarding women, do you think this could be interpreted to the modern day fact that we know Prince Charles did not prize Diana when they got married. She really had second thoughts once she found out about Camilla. Many many people were saying 'Don't do it, Di!' meaning it was the wrong idea to marry him.
She ended up having bulimia, tried to kill herself by throwing herself the stairs, pregnant with the heir to the throne Prince William. Is he not now 'The Black Prince' as you put it, since he's inherited the title. Diana would never become Queen, and she knew it. Camilla has that title now.

There are many interpretations, one of which is that the man of sin has no regard for the God of his fathers. We see this with King Charles wanting to be the defender of "faith" and not the defender of "the faith". Other interpretations of not regarding women is that he is homosexual. There are a variety of theories.

We know Prince William beat up Prince Harry when he was growing up, and still beat on him when he married Meghan, and is not talking to him at present because Harry is only a 'spare'. Prince William's wife Catherine (or Kate, as she used to be known) has had issues with her health, and as well as having to battle cancer, it seems she might have suffered bulimia as well, she had got so thin and seemed to diminish once she got married. Not just having babies, and being morning sick as a lot of women are, but seriously not being able to eat properly. It must be so stressful being married to the heir to the throne, and bearing his children, and never knowing quite how they are going to turn out.

You have stated several times that you believe Charles is a 33rd degree mason. But what about his sons? How do we know he is one? What about the various male world leaders. Are they all masons too?

The order of the Garter is an order of Free Masons, and both Charles and William have this order on their heraldic achievement.

The islamic connection - how do we know Charles has converted to Islam? Princess Diana was curious about it, read up about it, even went out with two muslim men, and seriously thought about marrying Hasnat Khan, before she took up with Dodi, who perished with her in the car crash. As well as the driver. The only survivor was the bodyguard, Trevor Rees, and he does not remember anything about the crash.

I think this is all for now.

Oh also I do recall when Princess Diana died in 1997, various people claimed she fuffilled prophecy, but it wasn't Biblical prophecy, they were talking about Nostradamus. Do you place any significance on the prophecies of Nostradamus, or is he another false prophet?

Early and sustained scholarly interest

• As prince, Charles praised English Muslim convert and Shakespeare scholar Martin Lings for his work on Islam, writing the foreword to one of his books, and has long studied the Quran directly. Time
• His 1993 lecture "Islam and the West" remains one of the most widely cited speeches by a senior royal on Islam-West relations. In it, he argued the West has underestimated the importance of 800 years of Islamic society and culture in Spain between the 8th and 15th centuries, and that Islamic civilization's scholarly legacy has been erased from Western historical memory. Islam ChannelBritishmuslim-magazine
• He became Patron of the Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies in 1993 and has remained patron for over thirty years, visiting as King in July 2025 to mark its 40th anniversary, where he opened a new wing bearing his name and launched a leadership program for young Muslims — opening his remarks with "Assalamu Alaikum." Islam ChannelChan Abraham

Title and constitutional framing

• Almost 30 years ago, as Prince of Wales, he said he wanted to be a "defender of faith" rather than simply "Defender of the Faith," reflecting Britain's religious diversity. Time
• Shortly after taking the throne in 2022, he described Britain as a "community of communities" and said the Sovereign has a duty to protect religious diversity. Islam Channel

Personal/biographical claims

• The 2018 biography "Charles at Seventy: Thoughts, Hopes and Dreams" suggests his views align with many in the Muslim community, describing how he studies the Quran and thinks Christianity can learn from Islam. Islam Channel
• The same biography notes he opposed the Iraq War, disagreed with niqab bans, and expressed sympathy for Palestinians. Britishmuslim-magazine

Travel and gestures as King

• In February 2025, he and Queen Camilla visited a London restaurant ahead of Ramadan and helped pack iftar meal boxes for hospitals; in March 2025 he authorized the first open iftar in Windsor Castle's 1,000-year history. Chan Abraham
• He's made repeated mosque visits over the decades in the UK, Jordan, Turkey, India, and the Gulf.

 

[Lanolin]

Ok the first link is a facebook link do you have anything substantial like a real photo that's not doctored? Anyone can make a statue and name it anything they like, doesn't mean its them. It could be just a piece of absurdist art.

 

[Lanolin]

Christ the redeemer is an imposing statue in Rio de Janeiro. It's not named after Prince Charles. Besides, he is not a Prince anymore, he's been crowned a King.

 

[Lanolin]

Regarding God of their fathers, do you mean the Lord Jesus Christ, the son of God?
Or do you mean Father God almighty?
Charles father was Prince Phillip, and he was Greek Orthodox. As far as I know the Orthodox worship Jesus Christ and the God of the Bible. The same one the Anglicans do.

 

[Lanolin]

Visiting mosques and learning bout Islam, reading the Koran and being friendly with muslims doesn't mean you have converted to Islam. If you convert to Islam there are requirements, including praying to Mecca five times a day. Does King Charles do this? Has he done a pilgrimage to Mecca and worshipped the kaaba? Does he speak Arabic or learn it?

I've been invited to some eid festival things, and had muslim workmates who observed Ramadan. We have halal food outlets in my country. Doesn't mean I have converted. Does Camilla wear a head covering? If she has converted, she would do this as a sign of respect.

Do you use arabic numbers like 1,2, 3 ,4 ,5 as base 10/decimal or do you still used Roman numerals? I, II, III, IV, V etc, that are base 12?

 

[ZNP]

Ok the first link is a facebook link do you have anything substantial like a real photo that's not doctored? Anyone can make a statue and name it anything they like, doesn't mean its them. It could be just a piece of absurdist art.

Regarding God of their fathers, do you mean the Lord Jesus Christ, the son of God?
Or do you mean Father God almighty?
Charles father was Prince Phillip, and he was Greek Orthodox. As far as I know the Orthodox worship Jesus Christ and the God of the Bible. The same one the Anglicans do.

I found an article in the Guardian that came out the day Prince Charles was crowned king. there are a lot of reliable references to the 18 inch bronze statue and not to the 10 cubit statue. However the articles that provide information about the 18 inch bronze statue do say that a larger statue is planned. That is the extent of what is easy to find and I personally don't care beyond this. I don't think that King Charles is "the Antichrist" and I don't think that line of enquiry is profitable, at least not to me, not telling anyone else what they should and should not be researching. I don't disagree with much of what "Antichrist and the cup of tea" says, I think for the most part they are valid observations, the only issue I have is with the conclusion. I think King Charles is a prophetic figure and that he does serve the "black prince". But I don't care what others think and I am not interested in pushing any particular narrative. If you want to do more research I am not the person to talk to, I would suggest Tim Cohen, and his books as a starting point.

 

[Lanolin]

If King Charles and his sons are freemasons, wouldn't there be an obvious sign like a the compass or eye or something like that on their crests. Instead, they have some feathers and a crown.

 

[Lanolin]

Well you constantly went on and on an on about King Charles being anti-Christ or the possbility of him being one.
Who is 'the black Prince' then? Harry? Phillip?

Someone who's African American? (they call themselves 'Black')
Come on be real.

An 18 inch prototype model in some obscure South American town that isn't even named is not an imposing statue. You can't even give a photo.

 

[ZNP]

If King Charles and his sons are freemasons, wouldn't there be an obvious sign like a the compass or eye or something like that on their crests. Instead, they have some feathers and a crown.

I shared some of the points made in the Antichrist and the Cup of Tea, I did not write the book, I did not do the research for the book, if someone has an issue with anything he said they should take it up with Tim Cohen and the publisher of that book. I do not care about FreeMasons, I do not care about the Royal Family and I have no interest in "the order of the Garter".

 

[Lanolin]

Nobody wants to read a self-published book about a cup of tea. And wild theories. You can't even borrow it from the library. What is Tim Cohen's authority on these matters anyway? Is he Jewish? The name Cohen is. What is his background?

 

[ZNP]

Well you constantly went on and on an on about King Charles being anti-Christ or the possbility of him being one.
Who is 'the black Prince' then? Harry? Phillip?

Someone who's African American? (they call themselves 'Black')
Come on be real.

An 18 inch prototype model in some obscure South American town that isn't even named is not an imposing statue. You can't even give a photo.

That is fine, if there is any post of mine you have an issue with by all means, quote it and I will respond to that. I am interested in what is in the Bible. I thought that Tim Cohen's book was a fascinating interpretation of some fanciful language in the book of Revelation that I had previously been very confused about.

 

[Lanolin]

Well that settle it then you have posted a bunch of hoeey about nothing that nobody is interested in least of all yourself.

 

[Lanolin]

If you want to discuss the Bible, go to the Bible discussion Forum and don't post conspiracy stuff in the Christian News Forum then. You are the one who started this thread.

 

[ZNP]

Nobody wants to read a self-published book about a cup of tea. And wild theories. You can't even borrow it from the library. What is Tim Cohen's authority on these matters anyway? Is he Jewish? The name Cohen is. What is his background?

The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea. Messiah, History, and the Tribulation Period. The REAL Prince Charles. The Left Behind LIE. Coming World War. Exobiology.

This is verbatim from that website:

Called by God in 1987 to be "him who has understanding" (Rev 13:18) — while a United States Air Force Academy cadet — Timothy Cohen is today an internationally recognized Christian author, speaker, and teacher. He has researched and written what many are now coming to view as Christendom's foremost prophetic and theological works (Rev 19:10), to include The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea as well as the Messiah, History, and the Tribulation Period multi-volume series.

Would you like to understand where we are in the timeline of Bible prophecy, without having to guess? In The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea, Tim Cohen presents the fascinating saga of the British Monarchy's centuries-long endeavor to establish a "New World Order," and gives hard-evidence to suggest the actual identity of the coming AntiChrist. Learn the remarkable truth concerning the "man of sin," the "son of perdition," in The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea.

Along with The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea (Rev 13:18), Tim Cohen's forthcoming Messiah, History, and the Tribulation Period series offers a real and deep insight into the prophetic scriptures. Tim's teaching therein represents a genuine paradigm shift in Christian understanding of both The Person and the work of The Messiah — the testimony of Yeshua (Rev 19:10). As such, it illuminates biblical theology and will, over time, redefine the best in Christian understanding and teaching. The saints will understand both the written and living Word of God more deeply and more fully than previously. Within Cohen's volumes, you will see many hidden treasures of God's Word and learn biblical wisdom; you will be taught things that few understand, what some obstinately or ignorantly refuse to investigate or consider, or even perilously choose to ignore — despite the great strength of the evidence. Future theologians and historians will, we believe, come to recognize Cohen's books as the new theological standard in several areas of study. For example, Cohen unveils the first-ever unified school (and theory) of Christian theology, one that encompasses the whole of eschatology and eschatological interpretation — a true Messiah-centered approach called the "Messianic view" — in Messiah, History, and the Tribulation Period. This is well beyond the "scholarship" of today's Christian seminaries and Jewish schools, and yet Tim Cohen makes it biblically testable and easy to grasp. This will change the way you think about and perceive God and Yeshua.

Tim's books are written for all levels of Christianity, from the babe in Christ to the "scholar of scholars." They are clear and easy to follow, yet packed with more information than would typically be found in several times as many pages of other authors' writings.

From now on, do your own research.

 

[ZNP]

If you want to discuss the Bible, go to the Bible discussion Forum and don't post conspiracy stuff in the Christian News Forum then. You are the one who started this thread.

Fortunately for Christian Chat.com you are not a moderator. The moderators correctly realized that King Charles being crowned king was a news story and belonged in the news forum.

 

[Lanolin]

Do your own research too.

Don't just copy-pasta someone elses dubious research.

 

[Lanolin]

Fortunately for CC forum, I am not a moderator, and I'll just forgive you for posting a whole bunch of hooey lol.

 

[Lanolin]

Anyone would think you are promoting a book. For 19 pages. Not the Bible, a book that interprets the Bible. Its almost as bad as the ones who promoted 'The Late Great Planet Earth' or 'The Left Behind Series'.

 

[ZNP]

Do your own research too.

Don't just copy-pasta someone elses dubious research.

I did and his interpretation of this one portion of Revelation relating it to Prince Charles heraldic achievement is by far the most credible. No one else even comes close.

 

[Lanolin]

Or..88 signs the rapture will be in 1988.