Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.
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His theory does not fit into the confines of the parameters of the 70th week of Daniel, which any presentation of end time eschatology must. Hopefully he will pick up on this.
The historist-premillennial view is of course faulty. Hopefully the onlookers to this thread can see this. Only the pre-trib premillennial futurist view presents an iron clad case. Buttoned down tightly no loose ends very tidy. In terms of Scripture of course.......
No, that is not the other reason. Another big reason is the context: Jesus ascensding and sending the Holy Spirit down. One must not pull that first seal out of its context. However, the color what is a very good reason why it cannot be anything but something righteous.
I am not sure exactly what you're talking about but Paul is clearly referring to the time of tribulation/70th week here. Not final judgment/damnation.
OF COURSE it don't! John and God don't get to the 70th week until the 7th seal.His theory does not fit into the confines of the parameters of the 70th week of Daniel, which any presentation of end time eschatology must. Hopefully he will pick up on this.
The historist-premillennial view is of course faulty. Hopefully the onlookers to this thread can see this. Only the pre-trib premillennial futurist view presents an iron clad case. Buttoned down tightly no loose ends very tidy. In terms of Scripture of course.......
God "marked" (His word not mine) the 70th week with 7's for our assistance.
Sorry,, but making John's calling to heaven in 95 AD the rapture still future of us is ANYTHING but "ironclad" unless someone melted the iron. It is extremely poor exegesis.
Tell us all - since you think you know - WHEN did Jesus ascend and send the Holy Spirit down?
The crown is the type given to winner at the games: a victor's crown. Sorry, but that kind of crown does not fit the Beast. The Greek word behind "conquer" was, in every other case, translated as "overcome." DID the church have anything to "overcome" as the gospel went forward? Just look at the life of Paul! Look at the martyrs (the 5th seal). The weapons of our warfare are spiritual: the written word of God!
On the contrary I think we have laid out a very compelling case. The 70th week kicks off when the man of sin is revealed. Paul could not be more compelling on this point. I don't see any man of sin being revealed at the seventh seal.
There are more Jewish believers who survive when Jesus touches down and creates a new escape route out of Jerusalem with a new valley!
In your opinion, what other wrath is there? Please explain.
"Fantasy!" Thanks. Good word!Truth7t7 said:
A "Parable" is a simplified teaching of a literal event that will take place in the great white throne judgement, it appears your ignorant of this fact
I would add 'fantasy' to the list.
I believe the "invite" comes after the sheep and goat judgment - i.e. the "judgment of the nations."
I think after all judgments before the millennial reign, men are going to be very scarce compared to women.
Any Jewish believer would be a Christian, believer before or after the Tribulation. Their a new creature, reborn in the SPIRIT
Same rules apply to a;ll, Jesus has no favorites and the rules apply to all and everyone. Again its called equality
The WRATH PERIOD is after the coming of the Lord in the clouds. Its a period of 45 ays after His return in the air. He dpoesnt touch down until the Battle of Armeggeddon, with us behind HIM
1335 days minus 1290 days equals 45 days
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Not exactly. Christians are a type of firstfruits. The archetype being the resurrected Christ. The Church, the Bride of Christ, is one and done. Starts at Pentecost ends at the rapture. Paul wrote extensively on the fact that the Church is a mystery not revealed until Paul was given his commission....and revelation.
The martyred tribulation saints are.......Tribulation saints. They are definitely not included in the specific category of the Bride. The 144, 000 are another type of firstfruits. And they aren't Christians either. Neither are any of the OT saints.