Master of Divinity Student

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Do you have any Biblical references of this method of discernment of supernatural claims?

God gives you His Holy Spirit when you're genuinely saved.

John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.


With that said, the Holy Spirit helps you to test the spirits.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

When Paul came to Berea, the Jews searched the Word of God to see if his claims were true.

God gave you His Holy Spirit, not just His Word. I think this is why you lack faith that these gifts of God are still in operation today. Have faith in the Holy Spirit who is also God to give you discernment at least, if you don't want to receive these gifts to serve God. There are so many other ways to serve Him!

But like the Bible says though, God doesn't give these gifts to every believer. It's okay if you don't have them, but you're not to prevent or discourage the people that God wants to give these gifts to.

1 Corinthians 14:39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

If someone claims the ability to heal the sick I will not pray to know if he is truthful.

I will look for the holes in his roof. Luke 5:17-39

Yes, by all means. Test the spirits!

 

[TrustandObey]

With that said, the Holy Spirit helps you to test the spirits.

Can you give an example of the Holy Spirit giving you the knowledge of a certain supernatural claim being of God or a lie?

God gave you His Holy Spirit, not just His Word. I think this is why you lack faith that these gifts of God are still in operation today.

Faith has nothing to do with the lack of evidence that should follow claims of the miraculous. If you need "faith" to believe in physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit then what is the point of the manifestation?

Luke 6:6-11
Jesus Heals a Man’s Hand
6 On another Sabbath day Jesus went into the synagogue and was teaching, and a man with a crippled right hand was there. 7 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees were watching closely to see if Jesus would heal on the Sabbath day so they could accuse him. 8 But he knew what they were thinking, and he said to the man with the crippled hand, “Stand up here in the middle of everyone.” The man got up and stood there. 9 Then Jesus said to them, “I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath day: to do good or to do evil, to save a life or to destroy it?” 10 Jesus looked around at all of them and said to the man, “Hold out your hand.” The man held out his hand, and it was healed.
11 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law were very angry and discussed with each other what they could do to Jesus.

Jesus said: "Stand up here in the middle of everyone"
"Hold out your hand"

Does this look like what is being labeled today as evidence of the continence of this miraculous age??? Be honest.

 

[Dino246]

Can you give an example of the Holy Spirit giving you the knowledge of a certain supernatural claim being of God or a lie?


Faith has nothing to do with the lack of evidence that should follow claims of the miraculous. If you need "faith" to believe in physical supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit then what is the point of the manifestation?

Luke 6:6-11
Jesus Heals a Man’s Hand
6 On another Sabbath day Jesus went into the synagogue and was teaching, and a man with a crippled right hand was there. 7 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees were watching closely to see if Jesus would heal on the Sabbath day so they could accuse him. 8 But he knew what they were thinking, and he said to the man with the crippled hand, “Stand up here in the middle of everyone.” The man got up and stood there. 9 Then Jesus said to them, “I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath day: to do good or to do evil, to save a life or to destroy it?” 10 Jesus looked around at all of them and said to the man, “Hold out your hand.” The man held out his hand, and it was healed.
11 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law were very angry and discussed with each other what they could do to Jesus.

Jesus said: "Stand up here in the middle of everyone"
"Hold out your hand"

Does this look like what is being labeled today as evidence of the continence of this miraculous age??? Be honest.

Is every claim of healing valid? No.

Is every claim of healing therefore invalid?

Again, no.

Stop judging by a ridiculous all-or-nothing standard.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Is every claim of healing valid? No.

Is every claim of healing therefore invalid?

Again, no.

Stop judging by a ridiculous all-or-nothing standard.

That's why I didn't bother to answer him.

He's already decided for himself not to believe what the Bible says.