Medicines Demonic or a help? HMM

[Johnny55]

The other day I overheard what was probably THE strangest belief I ever heard of when it comes to medicines and anything that comes from a pharmacy. It sounded like they were attempting to state that all pharmacy was demonic and we should never take a single pill for any ailment. I scratched my head on that one for sure. So they mean to tell me that my aspirin will get me thrown into hell? Or how about folks with high blood pressure who have a medical doctor prescribe certain blood pressure meds to help them? Are they all wrong? What on Earth is this about folks? Are they saying that if a doctor prescribes me something for an ailment and I take it I am doomed or something? What do you think? Is an aspirin really bad?

 

[keepingthingsreal]

Gal 5:20
Idolatry, witchcraft, G5331 hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

Rev 9:21
Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, G5331 nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Rev 18:23
And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries G5331 were all nations deceived.

In these three verses, the Greek word that is translated into English as "witchcraft" and "sorceries" is pharmakeia.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g5331/kjv/tr/0-1/

It is from this Greek word that we get our English word pharmacy.

https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=pharmacy

pharmacy (n.)

late 14c., farmacie, "a medicine that rids the body of an excess of humors (except blood);" also "treatment with medicine; theory of treatment with medicine," from Old French farmacie "a purgative" (13c.) and directly from Medieval Latin pharmacia, from Greek pharmakeia "a healing or harmful medicine, a healing or poisonous herb; a drug, poisonous potion; magic (potion), dye, raw material for physical or chemical processing."

This is from pharmakeus (fem. pharmakis) "a preparer of drugs, a poisoner, a sorcerer" from pharmakon "a drug, a poison, philter, charm, spell, enchantment." Beekes writes that the original meaning cannot be clearly established, and "The word is clearly Pre-Greek." The ph- was restored 16c. in French, 17c. in English (see ph).

Buck ["Selected Indo-European Synonyms"] notes that "Words for 'poison', apart from an inherited group, are in some cases the same as those for 'drug' ...." In addition to the Greek word he has Latin venenum "poison," earlier "drug, medical potion" (source of Spanish veneno, French venin, English venom), and Old English lybb.

Meaning "the use or administration of drugs" is from c. 1400; the sense of "art or practice of preparing, preserving, and compounding medicines and dispensing them according to prescriptions" is from 1650s; that of "place where drugs are prepared and dispensed" is recorded by 1833.

I would imagine that this has something to do with what you overheard.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

The other day I overheard what was probably THE strangest belief I ever heard of when it comes to medicines and anything that comes from a pharmacy. It sounded like they were attempting to state that all pharmacy was demonic and we should never take a single pill for any ailment. I scratched my head on that one for sure. So they mean to tell me that my aspirin will get me thrown into hell? Or how about folks with high blood pressure who have a medical doctor prescribe certain blood pressure meds to help them? Are they all wrong? What on Earth is this about folks? Are they saying that if a doctor prescribes me something for an ailment and I take it I am doomed or something? What do you think? Is an aspirin really bad?

You can find people that will say almost everything is demonic. No point in giving them any mind.

 

[GWH]

The other day I overheard what was probably THE strangest belief I ever heard of when it comes to medicines and anything that comes from a pharmacy. It sounded like they were attempting to state that all pharmacy was demonic and we should never take a single pill for any ailment. I scratched my head on that one for sure. So they mean to tell me that my aspirin will get me thrown into hell? Or how about folks with high blood pressure who have a medical doctor prescribe certain blood pressure meds to help them? Are they all wrong? What on Earth is this about folks? Are they saying that if a doctor prescribes me something for an ailment and I take it I am doomed or something? What do you think? Is an aspirin really bad?

Stay tuned, because hopefully RFK Jr. will publicize scientific data that will help us decide whether a medicine is more harmful than good.

 

[shittim]

The other day I overheard what was probably THE strangest belief I ever heard of when it comes to medicines and anything that comes from a pharmacy. It sounded like they were attempting to state that all pharmacy was demonic and we should never take a single pill for any ailment. I scratched my head on that one for sure. So they mean to tell me that my aspirin will get me thrown into hell? Or how about folks with high blood pressure who have a medical doctor prescribe certain blood pressure meds to help them? Are they all wrong? What on Earth is this about folks? Are they saying that if a doctor prescribes me something for an ailment and I take it I am doomed or something? What do you think? Is an aspirin really bad?

friend, our faith is not a list of does and don'ts
Our faith is a relationship with the Savior, who we desire to serve by our
desire to be conformed to His image.

 

[Johnny55]

You can find people that will say almost everything is demonic. No point in giving them any mind.

You make a great point because I never heard those things from the Lord in my heart. He never said anything to me about it. I know faith-filled, Holy Ghost-filled believers walking with Christ who are on medications. Some of them are on a lot of them pertaining to their medical condition and advancement in years being elderly. I knew one man who survived 5 heart attacks! He was like a walking pharmacy. He had bags of meds just to stay alive! So, when I heard all of that I thought, ok there is no way I am about to go and condemn a whole bunch of folks who I know are my brothers and sisters in Christ over some idea that may not even be of God.

 

[Johnny55]

friend, our faith is not a list of does and don'ts
Our faith is a relationship with the Savior, who we desire to serve by our
desire to be conformed to His image.

The do's and don'ts are aspects or fruits of our faith and love walk with the Lord as He said in His word.; "If you love me obey my commands." That does not mean we are any more or less saved. It pertains to loving God and the way He gave us to express that love to Him. In that He even said we would judge the fruits of someone's walk in words and deeds. It will be clearly evident that they walk in love with Jesus. The whole pharmacy thing I don't think fits within all of this really.

 

[Magenta]

Yes, there are people like that here, too. To hear them speak, if you so much as take an aspirin,
you are basically testifying that you do not believe in God and/or your faith is not great enough.
And many are they who will say such things as vaccines are the mark of the beast.

 

[lrs68]

If we think about illnesses and the Bible example almost every time Jesus healed someone He would say, YOU ARE FORGIVEN OF YOUR SINS.

We even have examples of the Disciples asking Jesus was this person BLIND, SICK, NEED OF SOME MEDICAL HELP, etc.... did this person or was it their parents who sinned?


But in this Thread it's not about the sickness but about what cures the sickness. I think the cures are not evil at all. But I am concerned about the cures because one cure can come with side effects and now you have a bigger problem. That to me is evil.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The other day I overheard what was probably THE strangest belief I ever heard of when it comes to medicines and anything that comes from a pharmacy. It sounded like they were attempting to state that all pharmacy was demonic and we should never take a single pill for any ailment. I scratched my head on that one for sure. So they mean to tell me that my aspirin will get me thrown into hell? Or how about folks with high blood pressure who have a medical doctor prescribe certain blood pressure meds to help them? Are they all wrong? What on Earth is this about folks? Are they saying that if a doctor prescribes me something for an ailment and I take it I am doomed or something? What do you think? Is an aspirin really bad?

I probably get misrepresented as a faith healer who believes all meds are evil. I can defend my positions on certain pharmaceuticals and the Biblical perspective if anyone wants to challenge my statements from the past.

On the other hand There's an American misconception that Medical physicians have some sort of power of healing and expertise in health. This is often bordering on or outright idolatry in many cases, present company excluded.

I've shared many dinners with nurses, Drs, PAs, hospital admins over my lifetime. One famous MD who started his own hospital and professional organization was my best friend. I remember him talking to me about family concerns. I said that I didn't know the answers, but I know Someone Who does and He is The Great Physician. Let's ask Him for the answers and I think He will answer.

After the prayer at dinner, we went our separate ways. I wrote down the 5 questions that needed answered and one was for their dog.
That might I could not sleep.
I decided well after midnight to make proper use of the time and listen to someone I consider a mentor since I was a kid, Dr Joel Wallach. He has random topics in a broadcast and takes questions for consultations. I had no idea what the class was going to be about, but grabbed my journal to write down the answers when I heard the first topic.
One by one, he went through my friends questions in order as if he were reading from the list. He answered each one clearly providing answers to his challenging health concerns.
Only the Lord could bring all of that together!
After the recorded class was over, I slept well.
The next morning I went back to the same broadcast from a different day and he covered the question about my friend's dog to complete them all!
That's not a coincidence, nor would my friend have solutions for his family's health concerns if he spent $50,000 at the top West Virginia hospitals. More than likely, they'd end up with worse problems than when they first made an appointment. I speak from the regretful experiences of many people.
God is good.
He cares about His children, not about the money.
Few medical doctors care what He thinks.
Most MDs are in it for the money and have proven it throughout their careers.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Dr Suneel Dhand MD on the state of Medical Health Care in America and the UK

 

[LeeLoving]

I think you should approach physicians with a sound mind with the resolution to be present with the aim of resolving any medical issue (or mental health issue, I suppose).

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Thread Topic:
Medicines Demonic or a help?

Is THIS Face of Medicine
of God or Demonic?

Many Medical Doctors and other drug pushers, Nurses and Pharmacists, do the will of their leader for the love of money. What is the love of money? 🤔
Please remind us.

Do you all know that the same Medical Doctors you trust for everything you see them for, get over $150,000 for killing our family members in West Virginia? Your state may vary.
They literally get paid by a federal grant to commit murder.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think you should approach physicians with a sound mind with the resolution to be present with the aim of resolving any medical issue (or mental health issue, I suppose).

All due respect to you Lee, I have none left for them.

The ones I dealt with at Ruby Memorial, Mon General and Select Specialty Hospitals are to be approached with utter contempt.
May God judge them before they commit more contemptible treatments upon innocent victims.
They are the cause of physical and mental health harms.

 

[Dino246]

There is certainly much corruption and error in the practice of medicine, as Dr. Dhand is exposing, but that by itself has nothing to do with the thread topic.

To the thread title, no, literal medicine is not demonic. God created solutions for our physical problems, and using them is well within His general will. He also endowed humans with the ability to investigate, which has led to both “folk” and commercial medicines.

 

[homwardbound]

friend, our faith is not a list of does and don'ts
Our faith is a relationship with the Savior, who we desire to serve by our
desire to be conformed to His image.

I hit the wrong button at first, I corrected it, so you know thank you

 

[homwardbound]

If we think about illnesses and the Bible example almost every time Jesus healed someone He would say, YOU ARE FORGIVEN OF YOUR SINS.

We even have examples of the Disciples asking Jesus was this person BLIND, SICK, NEED OF SOME MEDICAL HELP, etc.... did this person or was it their parents who sinned?


But in this Thread it's not about the sickness but about what cures the sickness. I think the cures are not evil at all. But I am concerned about the cures because one cure can come with side effects and now you have a bigger problem. That to me is evil.

I see, what you say. I see especially when Christ stated in was your Faith that healed you. Asked many a time, do you believe? =Yes was the answer and so it was so. As I see when he left his own home town, many were not healed because of their unbelief

Believe, receive and see. If not yet, might want to take a prescription to get by for now. I am on prescriptions also
Not as much as was at first, yet I take over the counter St John's wart and Insulin for diabetes and blood pressure meds to keep pressure not too high or too low
Per my Doctors in VA thanks yes I am a Vet also
I see to trust God and do as led and see and find out. As I have been doing for a long tine now, making it through my adversities I have been through
Whenever my time is to go home, then I will go there and see me as there already in trust humbly thank you

 

[Sipsey]

Isn’t the question about medicine also one that could be asked of money? Is all medicine bad, is all money bad? It would seem to be based on if it’s used correctly with the proper motives.

 

[homwardbound]

Isn’t the question about medicine also one that could be asked of money? Is all medicine bad, is all money bad? It would seem to be based on if it’s used correctly with the proper motives.

If used wisely, thank you, I know w sone meds, I ha d to let go of, were not good for me and did not help me.
Oh and healing, like a broke leg. The Doctor puts the cast on it. The Doctor does not heal it. Naturally we heal, Might be time to heal inspirit too
I know not to when I see it not good for me.
Thanks for that insight Sipsey

 

[Blain]

there are people who I knew who had a kid this kid had thyroid cancer he was only five years old but they believed medicine was evil since it was man made and refused treatment no chemo therapy no medicine nothing they prayed for healing and prayed and prayed all the while this poor kid was suffering and dying well guess what? he did not make it they lost their faith and became athiests and all this because they thought medicine was evil

I had cancer before as well and it was the doctors and the treatments that helped save my life I had a blood cancer luekemia if my mom was like that I would not be here today.