Jeremiah 23:11 For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the Lord. 12 Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the Lord.
Methodist Church continues to split.
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I'm not a Methodist, nor have I ever been. But, 2 years ago I attended a UMC church in Atlanta with someone who is Methodist. The preacher at this particular UMC taught that Christ could have came as a woman. He also mentioned that part of our brains are reptilian. Furthermore, he said that we don't have to believe in Christ, that it's okay if we just believe in God. Say what?? Of course, I have never went back to that church again. Meanwhile, in another area of Atlanta, is/was a UMC with a LGBT flag flying.
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I was raised Methodist and I can remember attending my mom's adult Sunday school class back in the '70s; this kind of ridiculous speculation was going on even back then. Everyone seemed to be trying to outdo the other in casting doubt on God's word. No doubt we're seeing the chickens coming home to roost.
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My family used to go to a Methodist church. In my first Sunday school (1st grade), my teacher was a pedophile. Whenever I was sitting next to her, she would keep touching my knee and that made me feel uncomfortable. When I needed to go to the bathroom once, she insisted on going with me IN THE STALL and she actually watched me pee. When other kids sat next to her, they all had the same uncomfortable look and I would see her arm go under the table. I KNEW she was touching them on the knee.
We were all too young to understand what was going on so it was quite a few years before a Sunday came and the elders asked us about. They asked me if she ever touched my knee and I said yes (because it was true and I saw no reason to make that up). She never came back.
Then in my pre-teen years, I had a Sunday school teacher that didn't believe in any of the miracles in the Bible. If he couldn't explain one, he'd ignore it. For the feeding of the 5,000 though, he actually said that the 5,000 and their families were actually fed because other people quietly contributed food, that Jesus had nothing to do with that.
Needless to say, as soon as I got confirmed at 13, my parents allowed me to choose whether to keep going to the church or not. So I didn't!
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We were all too young to understand what was going on so it was quite a few years before a Sunday came and the elders asked us about. They asked me if she ever touched my knee and I said yes (because it was true and I saw no reason to make that up). She never came back.
Then in my pre-teen years, I had a Sunday school teacher that didn't believe in any of the miracles in the Bible. If he couldn't explain one, he'd ignore it. For the feeding of the 5,000 though, he actually said that the 5,000 and their families were actually fed because other people quietly contributed food, that Jesus had nothing to do with that.
Needless to say, as soon as I got confirmed at 13, my parents allowed me to choose whether to keep going to the church or not. So I didn't!
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My family used to go to a Methodist church. In my first Sunday school (1st grade), my teacher was a pedophile. Whenever I was sitting next to her, she would keep touching my knee and that made me feel uncomfortable. When I needed to go to the bathroom once, she insisted on going with me IN THE STALL and she actually watched me pee. When other kids sat next to her, they all had the same uncomfortable look and I would see her arm go under the table. I KNEW she was touching them on the knee.
We were all too young to understand what was going on so it was quite a few years before a Sunday came and the elders asked us about. They asked me if she ever touched my knee and I said yes (because it was true and I saw no reason to make that up). She never came back.
Then in my pre-teen years, I had a Sunday school teacher that didn't believe in any of the miracles in the Bible. If he couldn't explain one, he'd ignore it. For the feeding of the 5,000 though, he actually said that the 5,000 and their families were actually fed because other people quietly contributed food, that Jesus had nothing to do with that.
Needless to say, as soon as I got confirmed at 13, my parents allowed me to choose whether to keep going to the church or not. So I didn't!
🍦
We were all too young to understand what was going on so it was quite a few years before a Sunday came and the elders asked us about. They asked me if she ever touched my knee and I said yes (because it was true and I saw no reason to make that up). She never came back.
Then in my pre-teen years, I had a Sunday school teacher that didn't believe in any of the miracles in the Bible. If he couldn't explain one, he'd ignore it. For the feeding of the 5,000 though, he actually said that the 5,000 and their families were actually fed because other people quietly contributed food, that Jesus had nothing to do with that.
Needless to say, as soon as I got confirmed at 13, my parents allowed me to choose whether to keep going to the church or not. So I didn't!
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But, as understandable as such reactions are, we cannot let our emotions ruin the day for us. We must continue until we find a church that's actually right with God.
In Los Angeles, while church-hunting, I came across a few weird places. One pastor said that we should not take Genesis literally, that plants could not have been created before sunlight. Another kept emphasizing, to the point (for me at least) of weirdness, that the people were to sign up for some kind of church activity (might have been a small group thing, I don't recall). But, after 5 emphatic repetitions, I was turned off.
Here in AZ, in Chandler, I visited a Cornerstone church. I think I counted at least six women at the service who'd make women at the gym blush because of their skin-tight and revealing outfits. The "worship" was essentially a rock concern, complete with dry ice "smoke" and floodlights swinging through them. The sermon was, in my estimate, about 75% secular (mental health), and 25% about Christ. That was the first and last time for me.
And, there were other churches as well that did some weird thing. But, I kept looking. I finally found what I believe to be a solid church. The leadership ain't playing around with the Word of God, and they're also not afraid to discuss culture war issues. My only issue with it is that it's bordering on mega-church status, with a nearly 2,000-member congregation. It's hard to get to know people and make friends, which seriously want / need to do.
In Los Angeles, while church-hunting, I came across a few weird places. One pastor said that we should not take Genesis literally, that plants could not have been created before sunlight. Another kept emphasizing, to the point (for me at least) of weirdness, that the people were to sign up for some kind of church activity (might have been a small group thing, I don't recall). But, after 5 emphatic repetitions, I was turned off.
Here in AZ, in Chandler, I visited a Cornerstone church. I think I counted at least six women at the service who'd make women at the gym blush because of their skin-tight and revealing outfits. The "worship" was essentially a rock concern, complete with dry ice "smoke" and floodlights swinging through them. The sermon was, in my estimate, about 75% secular (mental health), and 25% about Christ. That was the first and last time for me.
And, there were other churches as well that did some weird thing. But, I kept looking. I finally found what I believe to be a solid church. The leadership ain't playing around with the Word of God, and they're also not afraid to discuss culture war issues. My only issue with it is that it's bordering on mega-church status, with a nearly 2,000-member congregation. It's hard to get to know people and make friends, which seriously want / need to do.
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