MODERN CHRISTIANS WORSHIPPING THEIR HEATHEN GODS--by tossing out the 7th Day Sabbath

[UriahSmith1844]

Pretend phony Christians everywhere. Yes indeed, we are living in the last days.

 

[Kerry]

Tent is eat up with law. He is still stumbling over the stumbling block and will not listen to a gentile or Yashua.

 

[GregoryC]

And don't give me this tripe where you play both sides of the fence and one minute claim its alright to steal, murder, commit adultery with your neighbor's wife and do every other abomination under the sun, then the next minute claim oh no we just wouldn't do that cause we are Christians. You are either allowed to do that sort of thing or you ain't. The Bible says you ain't. You just now read it. PERIOD!

I just spent the last few days trying to convince a pack of intelligent Atheists that just because there are so many hypocritical so-called 'Christians' that act just like worldlings, that this doesn't mean that ALL Christians are that way. Its people like YOU that turn others away from Christ. They are not stupid, they have eyes to see the whited sepulchres everywhere who are professing to serve the Lord.

May I give you a gentle reminder of the true mark of a Christian?
Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

 

[UriahSmith1844]

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It's Jewish
by Uriah Smith
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[TD="width: 318"]When we present God's holy law,
And arguments from scripture draw,
Objectors say, to pick a flaw,
'It's Jewish.'

Though at the first the Most High blessed
And sanctified His day of rest,
The same belief is still expressed,
'It's Jewish.'

Though with the world this rest began,
And thence through all Scriptures ran,
And Jesus said "'twas made for man"--
'It's Jewish.'

Though not with Jewish rites,
which passed,
But with the moral law 'twas classed,
Which must exist while time shall last,
'It's Jewish.'

If from the Bible we present
The Sabbath's meaning and intent,
This answers every argument--
'It's Jewish.'

Though the disciples, Luke and Paul,
Continue still this rest to call
The 'Sabbath day', this answers all:
'It's Jewish.'

The good news teacher's plain expression,
That " Sin is of the law's transgression,"
Seems not to make the least impression--
'It's Jewish.'

They love the rest of man's invention,
But if the LORD's day we mention,
This puts an end to all contention:
'It's Jewish.'

O ye who thus GOD's day abuse,
Simply because 'twas kept by Jews,
The Saviour, too, you must refuse,
He's Jewish.

The Scriptures, then, we may expect
For the same reason you'll reject;
For if you will but recollect,
They're Jewish.

Thus the apostles, too, must fall;
For Andrew, Peter, James, and Paul,
Thomas, Matthew, John, and all
Were Jewish.

So to your helpless state resign
Yourself in wretchedness to pine;
Salvation, surely you'll decline,
It's Jewish.

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[UriahSmith1844]

Just save all the excuses and the trouble and admit you LOVE TO SIN.

 

[GregoryC]

Uriah have you ever heard the gospel?
Can you tell me the greatest Commandment?
On what commandment hangs all the law and prophets?

 

[GregoryC]

Careful Uriah your venom is showing.

 

[UriahSmith1844]

The truth is that phony Christians hate THE SABBATH, I am referring to the real 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord. They aren't going to go right out and claim that they can now steal, murder, commit adultery and worship other gods, oh no" that would be too obvious that it is ridiculous to say such a thing. But what they are really wanting to do is undermine the Sabbath. They claim with straight face that its JEWISH. Therefore they have to make claims the whole law of God is JEWISH. What a slap in the face of GOD that is, that you think your Saviour, your Lord Jesus Christ died so that you could continue in your debauchery and sin. What an insult!

 

[GregoryC]

I think I understand what the problem is Uriah. The written law is your security blanket which you need because you are not led by the Holy Spirit. Otherwise you would't be throwing your childish tantrum.

 

[GregoryC]

Here is your real Sabbath. Are you really keeping it?

1. No work done at all (Ex. 20: 10; Lev. 23: 3; Jer. 17:21-22). No watering the lawn, no working in the yard, no hobbies, no surfing, no fixing flat tires, etc. By law if a person did not stop all types of activity in honor of the Sabbath, he was breaking the law. In Numbers 15:32-36 a man was caught collecting sticks on the Sabbath, and he was stoned to death.
2 No kindling of a fire (Ex. 35:3). No fellowship cookouts or barbecues. You can't go into a restaurant and get a hamburger that's been flame broiled, you can't cook eggs, or pancakes in the morning because you'd be kindling a fire for cooking. To drive a car would be to "kindle a fire" In the combustion chamber of your engine.
3. No traveling at all (Ex. 16:29). Later the Jews added to this law, allowing only a half mile of travel on the Sabbath which we see observed in the NT. But the pure law says "stay at home." Actually, If you kept this part of the law, you could not travel to your church gathering unless it was less than one-quarter mile away from home. If you had an emergency you could not drive to the hospital.
4. No trading (Amos 8:5). If you happened to need gas to get to church service, you could not "trade" money for gasoline. You would not be allowed to buy a cassette tape of that morning's message or a book at the store. There is to be No exchanging of money for goods. If you worked with stocks and you needed to sell you couldn’t.
5. No marketing (Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19). Make sure you do no shopping whatsoever. You can't buy any ice cream for dessert after dinner or anything else. If you run out of food or drink at home you can’t go out to purchase any, you can’t even by a stick of gum.
6. A holy assembly with double the daily offering along with the other offerings. In other words, you are to give twice as much on the Sabbath (Num. 28:9).Do we practiced this today In compliance with Old Testament law. Do Sabbatarian's really practice the law? I have yet to see people go to Shabbat and give twice as much each week.
7. New showbread In the holy place (Lev. 24:8). Of course this cannot be done today since there is no temple, so this part of the Sabbath cannot be followed by the church. The fact Is the Sabbath was not made for the gentiles, but for the Jews and their generations (Ex. 31:12-17). It's a law given between God and the Jews.
8.The last part of the requirements for keeping the Sabbath day law Is the penalty for breaking It. DEATH


So, which of you are keeping the Shabbat of the 10 commandments?

 

[Kerry]

Can't start your car either. not allowed to kindle a fire on the Sabbath.

 

[Kerry]

Check this out in your bible. More works was done on the Sabbath by priest and levites than any other day. The killed and slaughtered more animals on that day than any other.

 

[theneko]

perhaps I am missing somthing but God is God, and he won't stop being God just because I was doing stuff in the woods instead of a church on sunday, I still spoke to him was with him in nature. In my opinion people over complicate things. God is God and doesn't change just cos there is a change in the week.
I Love God with all my being and it saddens me to see all the misplaced zeal and anger in this thread.

 

[Kerry]

perhaps I am missing somthing but God is God, and he won't stop being God just because I was doing stuff in the woods instead of a church on sunday, I still spoke to him was with him in nature. In my opinion people over complicate things. God is God and doesn't change just cos there is a change in the week.
I Love God with all my being and it saddens me to see all the misplaced zeal and anger in this thread.

I by no means am against going to church on whatever day you go. What I am against is the boasting. I meant where is your faith. In a day, or the cross.

 

[theneko]

I by no means am against going to church on whatever day you go. What I am against is the boasting. I meant where is your faith. In a day, or the cross.

you misunderstand it was not aimed at anyone just the spirit of condemation in this thread.

 

[GregoryC]

you misunderstand it was not aimed at anyone just the spirit of condemation in this thread.

That's what we end up with when you have LAW with no grace.

 

[Kerry]

you misunderstand it was not aimed at anyone just the spirit of condemation in this thread.

Trust me I haven't misunderstood anything. Nor do I condemn. I only ask, where is the faith placed. In a day (that would be self righteousness I know many do not understand). It's like this, Well I go to church erry time the doors open what do you do. thats good and wonderful, but didn't the pharisee's do the same the ones that rejected Jesus?

 

[GregoryC]

Personally I love the forest for worship.

 

[theneko]

my faith is in God and Christ and.my relationship with them, it is not based on any routine or pratice, I am with god where ever I tread and what ever I do. Why should it be any diferent?

 

[UriahSmith1844]

One Hundred Questions on the Ten Commandments

100 Questions on the Ten Commandments

In the fourth century, Satan through the beast power changed one of the Ten Commandments of God; a fact unbeknown to most Christians. With the Second Coming of Christ drawing ever nearer, the enemy has now also in recent times convinced many sincere People that all the Ten Commandments have been abolished and that God and His Son Jesus are responsible for its being “Nailed” to the Cross. Others say that the Ten Commandment Law of God is still in force with the exception of the one that Satan changed many centuries ago. Here are one hundred questions to ask yourself and think very carefully about. If the Ten Commandments have been abolished, how many verses in the Bible are meaningless and should be left out? As you ask yourself the following 100 questions, please remember that your Bible says that God is Holy, Righteous, Perfect, Unchangeable, Just, Kind and Good. See also the Ten Commandments and God's character.

1. How could a perfect God (Matthew 5:48) do away with a perfect Law? Psalms 19:7.
2. How could a Holy God (Isaiah 6:3) do away with a Holy Law? Romans 7:12.
3. How could a Righteous God (Psalms 145:17) do away with a Righteous Law? Psalms 119:172.
4. How could God who is unchangeable (Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8) change or do away with a Law that is unchangeable? Matthew 5:17-19; Psalms 111:7-8.
5. How could a God of Truth (John 14:6) abolish a Law that is the Truth? Psalms 119:142, 151.
6. How could a God who is Just (Acts 3:14; Deuteronomy 32:4) abolish a just Law? Romans 7:12.
7. How could a God who is Good (Psalms 34:8) abolish a Law that is good? Romans 7:12.
8. How could a Spiritual God (John 4:24) do away with a spiritual Law? Romans 7:14.
9. How could God do away with the Law that tells what sin is? 1 John 3:4; Romans 4:15; Romans 7:7.
10. How could God do away with the very Law that Christ came to magnify and make honourable? Isaiah 42:21.
11. How could God abolish a Law which He wrote on stone? Exodus 31:18. The fact that He wrote it on stone indicates that it was to last forever.
12. How could God do away with the Law which tells what His will is? Romans 2:18; Matthew 7:21; Psalms 40:8.
13. How could God do away with the very Law that He commanded to be sealed among His disciples? Isaiah 8:16.
14. How could God abolish the Law that is not made void, but by the Christian's Faith? Romans 3:31.
15. How could God do away with a Law that is “pure” and that “enlightens the eyes?” Psalms 19:8.
16. How could God abolish the Law that He told His people to remember and teach to their children and children's children? Psalms 78:1-7.
17. How could God do away with the Law that the Christian should “meditate in day and night.” Psalms 1:1-3.
18. How could God abolish His holy Law that the wicked have turned away from and made void? Psalms 119:126, 150.
19. How could God do away with His Law which must be fulfilled in the life of the Christian who is led by the Spirit of God? Romans 8:3-4.
20. How could God do away with His Law after promising a “woe” upon them that “cast away the Law of the Lord” and “call evil good, and good evil?” Isaiah 5:20-24.
21. How could God abolish a Law that enters into the very heart of an individual and condemns the secret sins of his life which he must in the judgement? Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
22. How could God do away with His Law that makes people happy when they keep it? Proverbs 29:18.
23. How could a God of Peace destroy a Law that brings peace to troubled hearts? Psalms 119:165.
24. How could God abolish the very Law that Jesus has in His heart? Psalms 40:8.
25. How could God abolish His Law which is to be the standard by which men and women will be judged? Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
26. How could God do away with His Law which is to “stand fast forever?” Psalms 111:7-8.
27. How could God do away with His Law after He said His people have forgotten His Law and are destroyed for lack of knowledge? Hosea 4:6-7.
28. How could God abolish His Law after accusing the religious leaders of hardening their hearts against His Law, and deceiving the people? Malachi 2:7-9.
29. How could God abolish His Ten Commandments when Jesus promised the Holy Spirit to those who would keep them? John 14:16-17, 26; Acts 5:32.
30. How could God have done away with His Law at Christ's death, and then later be with Stephen as he was stoned for having told his murderers that they had not kept God's Law? Acts 7:53-56.
31. How could God abolish the same Law that is to be the standard by which we measure the teachings of every teacher, and every preacher, and every church? Isaiah 8:20, Compare 1 Peter 4:11 and Acts 7:38.
32. How could God abolish the Law when Jesus suffered and died to redeem us from the curse of the Law? Galatians 3:13. Jesus came to redeem them that were under the Law. Galatians 4:4-5.
33. How could God abolish His Law when the Bible says “Where no Law is, there is no transgression?” Romans 4:15; Romans 5:13.
34. How could God do away with His Law when His followers delight in it? Psalms 1:1-3; Psalms 119:70, 77, 92, 174.
35. How could God have the Ten Commandments abolished at the cross when Jesus told His disciples to pray that they might be able to keep the Sabbath command forty years after the crucifixion? Matthew 24:20. See also Sabbath in the New Testament.
36. How could God abolish the Commandment that says, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy,” when Jesus said that He Himself was Lord of the Sabbath, and that it was made for man? Mark 2:27-28.
37. How could God do away with the very Law that helps in converting the soul? Psalms 19:7.
38. How could God abolish the Law that helps a sinner to realise his need? When a sinner realises that death is the penalty for transgression, and in sorrow he comes to God for forgiveness, he receives a pardon through Jesus. That pardon is Grace. Would God abolish the very Law that Christ died for to make it possible to give grace to the sinner? If God abolished His Law there would be no transgression and therefore no need of forgiveness or grace. Grace is not something apart from the Law; it is necessary. Paul said to the Christians: “you are not under the law but under grace.” Romans 6:14. Then he said, “shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? God forbid.” Verse 15. In Galatians 3:21 Paul says “the law is not against the promises of God.” How could God abolish His Law and thus do away with Grace too?
39. How could God abolish the Sabbath command when Jesus said He Himself was Lord of the Sabbath? Mark 2:27-28. And Jesus Himself made the Sabbath. John 1:1-3; Mark 2:27. And it was Christ's custom to keep it. Luke 4:16.
40. How could Christ abolish His Law and the Sabbath day that He made and not say a single word about it to His closest followers? At the same time of His death they kept the Sabbath according to the Commandment and this was after the New Covenant begun. Luke 23:55-56. Compare Matthew 24:20.
41. How could God abolish the Sabbath when Jesus said: “It is easier for Heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the Law to fail?” Luke 16:17.
42. How could God abolish His Commandments when Jesus said that those who worship in vain have the commandments of men? Mark 7:7, 9. The worship which is accepted of God must be where the Ten Commandments of God are taught and obeyed. John 14:21.
43. How could God forsake His Law when that is the very thing that the Bible says the wicked have done? Psalms 119:53.
44. How could God do away with His Law when the Bible says, “The way of transgressors is hard?” Proverbs 13:15. Where there is no law there is no transgression. Romans 4:15.
45. How could God do away with His Law when the Bible says, “He that turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination?” Proverbs 28:9.
46. How could God do away with His Commandments when the Bible says, “The whole duty of man is to fear God and keep His Commandments.” Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
47. How could God do away with His Commandments after He promised to show mercy to all who would keep them? Psalms 103:18.
48. How could God abolish the Ten Commandments that the angels keep? Psalms 103:20.
49. How could God do away with His Law which is so perfect and high that it points the believer to Christ as the end for righteousness-the very highest standard of a perfect sinless life? Romans 10:4. Compare Isaiah 51:7 and James 5:11.