More about Israel.

[OMC]

I always find the double standard interesting, Covid was a fabrication, people were not dying, there was no pandemic and everyone suddenly became a doctor or virologist.

Always like the appeal to "consensus" which has become quite meaningless over time because of the very things Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote about.

The word "consensus" by itself doesn't prove something is true.
History is full of moments where the majority got things wrong.
My point wasn't that a claim is true because a lot of people agree with it.
It was that conclusions should ultimately stand or fall on the evidence, not on who is promoting them.
I actually think Bonhoeffer's warnings are relevant here.
One of the dangers he identified was becoming captive to a narrative, whether it's the mainstream narrative or the alternative one.
That's why I try to ask the same question of every position: "What evidence would cause me to change my mind?"
If I can't answer that, then I may have stopped investigating and started defending.
For me, that's the real challenge.
Not whether a view is popular or unpopular, but whether I'm still willing to follow the evidence if it takes me somewhere I wasn't expecting.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Wow, cc to ban people to have different views?
What's next, ban people rejecting vaccine?
Ban people rejecting isreal state policy?
Ban people rejecting trump policy?
Ban people rejecting LGBT?
Ban people in most denominations?
Ban, ban, ban.....
Ban people from American, talking too freely...

Anti-semitism shouldn't even be a consideration for true Christians, much less a topic of debate on a Christian Chat forum.

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[Churchgoer]

Wow, cc to ban people to have different views?
What's next, ban people rejecting vaccine?
Ban people rejecting isreal state policy?
Ban people rejecting trump policy?
Ban people rejecting LGBT?
Ban people in most denominations?
Ban, ban, ban.....
Ban people from American, talking too freely...

Plus, the golden calf worshippers are real anti-Christian, anti-Christ.

 

[HeIsHere]

The word "consensus" by itself doesn't prove something is true.
History is full of moments where the majority got things wrong.
My point wasn't that a claim is true because a lot of people agree with it.
It was that conclusions should ultimately stand or fall on the evidence, not on who is promoting them.
I actually think Bonhoeffer's warnings are relevant here.
One of the dangers he identified was becoming captive to a narrative, whether it's the mainstream narrative or the alternative one.
That's why I try to ask the same question of every position: "What evidence would cause me to change my mind?"
If I can't answer that, then I may have stopped investigating and started defending.
For me, that's the real challenge.
Not whether a view is popular or unpopular, but whether I'm still willing to follow the evidence if it takes me somewhere I wasn't expecting.

1) Like I stated knowing what is reliable and valid "evidence" requires training.

2) There is more at play here than primary source documents because it is connected to scripture.

There are other "entities" who have a vested interest in worldly events because they hate mankind, to see this and known this spiritually, one has to beseech God to show you the truth and He will, for the honest seeker.

Anyway these conversations have occurred before many times on here, and they can never be dispassionate, so I am moving on.

 

[Beekeeper]

There is no genocide being committed against Palestinians, just Islamic terrorists and the people who support them for being terrorists. It's called "defending" oneself. On the other hand, the terrorists are definitely targeting and killing the Jews and/or anyone who doesn't obey the terrorists.

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If you can prove your claims before the whole world in a court of law I will listen.
What I posted are the findings of a court, not just some religiously driven person telling us what is what in a place that they know nothing about.

 

[Revelation1v8]

Plus, the golden calf worshippers are real anti-Christian, anti-Christ.

No, the difference is that we know you can't separate Jesus from God, which you try to do everyday.

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[Revelation1v8]

If you can prove your claims before the whole world in a court of law I will listen.
What I posted are the findings of a court, not just some religiously driven person telling us what is what in a place that they know nothing about.

The world is full of antisemitics, even courts. This is why the Bible says that the whole world will try to turn against Jerusalem AGAIN! That's why God/Jesus cuts down every nation that ever tried/tries to come up against it. Read your Bible.

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[HeIsHere]

The word "consensus" by itself doesn't prove something is true.
History is full of moments where the majority got things wrong.
My point wasn't that a claim is true because a lot of people agree with it.
It was that conclusions should ultimately stand or fall on the evidence, not on who is promoting them.
I actually think Bonhoeffer's warnings are relevant here.
One of the dangers he identified was becoming captive to a narrative, whether it's the mainstream narrative or the alternative one.
That's why I try to ask the same question of every position: "What evidence would cause me to change my mind?"
If I can't answer that, then I may have stopped investigating and started defending.
For me, that's the real challenge.
Not whether a view is popular or unpopular, but whether I'm still willing to follow the evidence if it takes me somewhere I wasn't expecting.

Just to clarify I did not mean you, when I spoke about dispassionate dialogue.

But there are others who are so emotional, I see no reason to ruin a pleasant day.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Wow, cc to ban people to have different views?
What's next, ban people rejecting vaccine?
Ban people rejecting isreal state policy?
Ban people rejecting trump policy?
Ban people rejecting LGBT?
Ban people in most denominations?
Ban, ban, ban.....
Ban people from American, talking too freely...

Yes, people have been banned here. Just like any other forum.

 

[PennEd]

Wow, cc to ban people to have different views?
What's next, ban people rejecting vaccine?
Ban people rejecting isreal state policy?
Ban people rejecting trump policy?
Ban people rejecting LGBT?
Ban people in most denominations?
Ban, ban, ban.....
Ban people from American, talking too freely...

No. Just people that deny or minimize THIS.
These are some of the images my Uncle described seeing. If they disturb you, maybe you should rethink your antisemitism. If they don’t, that says a lot.