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Ben, if I didn't care for you guys I wopuldnt have argued 
God Loves you and I also Love you in Jesus Christ., and He is a witness to that. I will keep you in prayer. and if I offended or insulted you, I was wrong, and I do apologize. I have always maintained that I see good word in you, and I do still maintain that. sorry if this got out of hand or hurt anyones feelings. God Loves you, sorry fopr any careless or emotional responses, I do indeed repent........though I cant promise ill never offend again BUT hahahaha your bound to forgive )
God Loves you and I also Love you in Jesus Christ., and He is a witness to that. I will keep you in prayer. and if I offended or insulted you, I was wrong, and I do apologize. I have always maintained that I see good word in you, and I do still maintain that. sorry if this got out of hand or hurt anyones feelings. God Loves you, sorry fopr any careless or emotional responses, I do indeed repent........though I cant promise ill never offend again BUT hahahaha your bound to forgive )
I didn't like that I tried casting a label on you to dismiss what you had to say, so I apologize for that. I've got the word of God, who needs labels? hahaPS: Thank you HRFTD for pointing that out.
J
"Even so, I have noticed one thing, at least, that is good. It is good for people to eat, drink, and enjoy their work under the sun during the short life God has given them, and to accept their lot in life. And it is a good thing to receive wealth from God and the good health to enjoy it. To enjoy your work and accept your lot in life—this is indeed a gift from God. God keeps such people so busy enjoying life that they take no time to brood over the past."
Guys! I scored dippin' corn chips and salsa! OMNOMNOMNOMNOM!
Delicious AND Nutritious!
Guys! I scored dippin' corn chips and salsa! OMNOMNOMNOMNOM!
Delicious AND Nutritious!
R
It goes back to the cross, the only way we can over come these things is by having our faith exclusivily in the work of the cross. This allows and gives the Holy Spirit the legal right to work in us to produce good fruit. If our faith is turned by some fad in the church to something we do, then the sin nature is revived in us and no matter how hard we try and fast and read and pray we will not overcome it, until our faith is placed in the work of the cross.
J
What Jesus teaches though, is to lay down our selfishness. our greed, price, anger, lust, lies ect.....not trying to argue u or upset you or anything. just that is what the Lord teaches us to do. not that we just all the sudden are Jesus. but were supposed to learn and follow as we learn. and His teachings are all about laying our lives down meaning our inner things opposed to His nature.....it seems nasty and will hurt , but when we begin the walk, it actually fills voids that we never understood we had. when we do it a bit, it gets easier and just feel so renewed and actually see a huge change in us. the things we hold to now, are comforting, but nothing compares to Jesus
Sure ..
John 16
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
You see it's not until Jesus goes, that the Holy Spirit come. When this Holy Spirit comes, He guides and convicts, He is reprove of righteousness and of judgement. It is " He who lives in us "
not not that of our own.. Read Romans 6, 7, & 8 ... Paul explains the dying old flesh man, to the new Spiritual one..
John 16
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
You see it's not until Jesus goes, that the Holy Spirit come. When this Holy Spirit comes, He guides and convicts, He is reprove of righteousness and of judgement. It is " He who lives in us "
not not that of our own.. Read Romans 6, 7, & 8 ... Paul explains the dying old flesh man, to the new Spiritual one..
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Hi JasonJ
I won't be around here for long, but I'd like to encourage you in your endeavor to teach that Jesus did indeed want us to follow what He taught. If some people want to call this "works", then works it is.
Jesus meant everything He said. BEFORE the resurrections and after the resurrection. Do some believe He was just kidding around before the resurrection? I haven't followed this thread well, but you're 100% right.
Jesus meant EVERYTHING He said. He didn't go up on those hill tops in Galilee and in boats off the shore of the sea just to make sure people could hear Him so they WOULDN'T have to follow what He said.
What could be more clear than Mathew 7:17-23
Mathew 7:19
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." NASB
Many will say to Him on the last day: "Did we not prophecy in Your name, cast out demons and perform miracles?"
verse 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice Lawlessness'.
NASB
Jump down to Mathew 7:24 The TWo Foundations.
Jesus says that anyone who hears His words AND ACTS ON THEM , is compared to a wise man who built his house upon the rock.
Are we building OUR house upon the rock? Do we pick and choose which part of scripture we care to believe and adhere to, or do we follow ALL of what Jesus taught?
Works do not save. But works are certainly a part of REMAINING saved.
If anyone disagrees with this, they've read a bible different from the one the Apostles and other writers meant to write.
Fran
I won't be around here for long, but I'd like to encourage you in your endeavor to teach that Jesus did indeed want us to follow what He taught. If some people want to call this "works", then works it is.
Jesus meant everything He said. BEFORE the resurrections and after the resurrection. Do some believe He was just kidding around before the resurrection? I haven't followed this thread well, but you're 100% right.
Jesus meant EVERYTHING He said. He didn't go up on those hill tops in Galilee and in boats off the shore of the sea just to make sure people could hear Him so they WOULDN'T have to follow what He said.
What could be more clear than Mathew 7:17-23
Mathew 7:19
"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." NASB
Many will say to Him on the last day: "Did we not prophecy in Your name, cast out demons and perform miracles?"
verse 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice Lawlessness'.
NASB
Jump down to Mathew 7:24 The TWo Foundations.
Jesus says that anyone who hears His words AND ACTS ON THEM , is compared to a wise man who built his house upon the rock.
Are we building OUR house upon the rock? Do we pick and choose which part of scripture we care to believe and adhere to, or do we follow ALL of what Jesus taught?
Works do not save. But works are certainly a part of REMAINING saved.
If anyone disagrees with this, they've read a bible different from the one the Apostles and other writers meant to write.
Fran
R
I totally understand and if the object of our faith is right then we will be helped by the Holy Spirit to live according to His morals. But I don't like spinach and I love chicken livers(fried) I don't like roller coasters (I used to when I was young) Heights bother me. But do like beets and collards and mustard greens. Isn't that myself?
My hero. (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little)
Not long ago you were posting some good stuff, Brainfreeze. When did your brain go from freezing to falling out?
Is Jesus God?
Most ppl here can give a yes or no answer to this question.
You've been asked this 3 times.
Can you give a yes or no answer to this question, jj?
Is Jesus God?
Not long ago you were posting some good stuff, Brainfreeze. When did your brain go from freezing to falling out?
Is Jesus God?
Most ppl here can give a yes or no answer to this question.
You've been asked this 3 times.
Can you give a yes or no answer to this question, jj?
Is Jesus God?
J
Sorry as well. I didn't like that I tried casting a label on you to dismiss what you had to say, so I apologize for that. I've got the word of God, who needs labels? haha
PS: Thank you HRFTD for pointing that out.
I didn't like that I tried casting a label on you to dismiss what you had to say, so I apologize for that. I've got the word of God, who needs labels? hahaPS: Thank you HRFTD for pointing that out.
we both were wrong in how we reacted a times ben. all is well and forgiven....and remember sometimes, often actually, things can start out as a clash, But wherethe Lord resides, He is able to make sense even in chaos and all things work together for the good of those who love God" God bless bro, there are no worries left press on in faith and in your Love for the only one who is worthy
J
3 times lol I only read 1. is Jesus God? Jesus is the son of God, He is the a=exact representation of God. scripture identifies Him as many things, He refered to Him self as I AM. oit also names Him : the word of God, the Holy one, the alpha and omega, the king of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Lord of hosts, it calls Him " the image of the invisible God in bodily form" it calls Him the first born over all creation, and about 50 other names. I see Him as the Son of God. But your not really hearing me. If God says "This is my son with whom I am well pleased listen to Him" and that's what God says of Him, then I take Gods word as Jesus is Gods son. so Jesus is Gods son, with all authority Given to Him by His father God. so yeah the son of God, but His words are Gods words. He gods son said " my words are not my own they are the fathers words who sent me"
so if your point is that hes not God so were not supposed to follow, your waaaaay off. that's all God does say. and if God says it, I believe is. simple answer He is Gods son.
VVhat they are, basically, getting at is a question. "Do you believe in the Trinity?" Is Jesus Christ divine, is He your God? They aren't asking if He is the Son of God, they are asking you if He, Jesus, is YOUR GOD [capitalization added for emphasis]?
Basically, is Jesus just as equally God as God, the Father or the Holy Spirit? They are one, so the question they are asking you is inquiring about your belief in Jesus as God, Himself.
Basically, is Jesus just as equally God as God, the Father or the Holy Spirit? They are one, so the question they are asking you is inquiring about your belief in Jesus as God, Himself.
J
Again I believe what Jesus said, Gods son. but scripture says many more things about him. He is Gods son. its a pretty clear response. He called God His father, its Gods son. whay the question? honestly whats that got to do with anything? the trinity father son holy spirit yeah I believe in them lol. Jesus is Gods only begotten son. But, He was with God before all creation and He was the word that created all things. cant really just label Him as God though. He is Gods son.
J
yes I'm not denying the holy spirit john 14-16 is a very rich scriptural polace to gain understanding on the spirit. that spirit is our new Life, comes through the word. " you are born again through the ever living incorrubtable seed of the word of God"
all things come by Gods word for the believer, not only hearing it but applying it to life as we learn it. its not like a spirit on tv like a transparent form of Jesus. its the spirit of Jesus, the spirit of His nature we receive through the gospel. his words remember what the sopirit does? He will remind you of everything I have said to you....that's one of the spirits roles in our life. and Jesus said " my word is spirit and it is Life" and the word of God is living and active"....
remember God spoke and light came forth? Gods word is living, and active. His word is Life