my study bible and evolution

[Agricola]

It not bad it just said God created everything but could have set things to evolve on their own. A good example is a cacoon or lava that evolve into a butterfly. Evolve take place and it still happing now.

That is just a cop out and an excuse to prevent flack and deflate ridicule from evolutionists. so called Macro Evolution, not really that accurate term as its not really evolving but changing characteristics, your example of stages of butterfly, God created that process from the start, some changes do happen, monkey growing extra long finger some other animals developing distinct features creating a new species, but they are still the same animal and they still function the same. Just look how diverse humans are, look at all the races of humans, short races, tall races, big thick muscluar races, skinny races and so on.

Humans have created thousands of different animals through selective breeding, dogs, cats, horses, birds, pigs and sheep and thats just a few off top of my head, but they remain the same creature and its not really changing much in the DNA or physiology, just the same that happens in the wild.

 

[Butch5]

I don't believe nor preach a theistic Evolution as it is false, but how did the Earth become void and full of darkness and the language of the manuscripts leans to the allowance of the sun to shine rather than being created and the moon also. I meant everything else God created was Good so why wasn't the Earth Good. Yes I suspect that there is a gap, I don't think that God would create something that was void and full of darkness as He is light.

Moses doesn't allow for a gap.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exo 20:8-11 KJV)

In the context of this passage Moses is referring to 24 hour days, then says that in 6 days God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them.

 

[Tintin]

That is just a cop out and an excuse to prevent flack and deflate ridicule from evolutionists. so called Macro Evolution, not really that accurate term as its not really evolving but changing characteristics, your example of stages of butterfly, God created that process from the start, some changes do happen, monkey growing extra long finger some other animals developing distinct features creating a new species, but they are still the same animal and they still function the same. Just look how diverse humans are, look at all the races of humans, short races, tall races, big thick muscluar races, skinny races and so on.

Humans have created thousands of different animals through selective breeding, dogs, cats, horses, birds, pigs and sheep and thats just a few off top of my head, but they remain the same creature and its not really changing much in the DNA or physiology, just the same that happens in the wild.

Yes, natural selection and speciation aren't proof of evolution being true, nor are they the property of such theories. Yes, DNA mutations do allow for differences but there's NEVER an increase in the amount of DNA information present.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Maybe some can read God's Word like a novel but I personally don't recommend that approach. It's so easy to get stuck in the Books of Law, after reading Genesis. Maybe a better approach would be to read a few OT books, then a NT book, then a few more OT books and so on. But really, I guess the best advice is to the let the Holy Spirit lead your reading of God's Word. It's a book unlike any other.

When I came to the Lord my first action was to begin at Genesis. An aunt of mine was a retired college administrator who paid me a weekly allowance for reporting to her my progress reading all college textbooks through in the first month of courses. That way I knew what was coming, what to focus on. I wouldn't have been able to get through it without her advice and support. When it came time to read the Bible it was not a challenge. Yes, the Pentateuch is tough, but once through it I appreciated how people of the Bible, like Joshua, King David, and Daniel dealt with it. When i finally reached the NT it was so refreshing to see God's plan come together. What a salvation we have!

I am speaking of self discipline. I've done a lot of things I didn't want to do, but this side of those has been mostly very rewarding. I've learned not to take the easy way out whenever it presents itself. I have collected a bag of rough diamonds from the Arkansas state Crater of Diamonds park. They helped me pay for college and start a business when young. I found one when the weather was perfect while an army of visitors scoured every square foot, but found the rest while standing in the mud in rain, being there as soon as the sun came out. That taught me a lot about the good things of life. They don't often come without sacrifice of something pleasant.

 

[Ugly]

This bible did not teach evolution. To quote "It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support". It simply acknowledged another point of view. It neither sided with, or against, the concept of God based evolution. Seems you guys are so amped up on preaching your beliefs you didn't bother to read.

 

[Tintin]

I know what you're saying, mate, and we probably were too quick to jump the gun, but still, commentaries today seem to be written by so-called knowledgeable people who don't know where they stand on important topics. Is it really that difficult to say, "I believe X or I believe Z?" Sitting on the fence is just disingenuous and poor scholarship and at worst, lukewarm.

 

[Angela53510]

Do you think I should send this bible back? it was like 38 dollars

I think you should return it! It is not just that it presents evolution as an alternative. What worries me is the rest of the commentary. If you get evolution in the opening pages, who knows where it will go?

Perhaps a regular study Bible would be better? You seem like an intelligent and wise teenager. Why limit yourself to a so-called "teen" commentary? In 6 years you are gong to be 20, and this Bible won't even be relevant. While that may seem like a long time now, you will be surprised how fast the years will pass.

I know I was reading the KJV when I was 12, so I bet you could read a modern version without commentary, and get a lot out of it!

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Yes, natural selection and speciation aren't proof of evolution being true, nor are they the property of such theories. Yes, DNA mutations do allow for differences but there's NEVER an increase in the amount of DNA information present.

It is absolutely amazing what this old man is seeing in that field. What a marvelous tool God made for life to stay alive, that DNA. As for evolution of man, the current charts are so crafty, so disarming. Piltdown Man came and went, so did Lucy. It is now very hard for grade schoolers to not accept the tree branches showing apes going one way, man another from the same branch Y, demonstrating their common ancestry hypothesis. What the two have in common is being created in a single week of 7 days by the same God using the same technique of making lifeforms, with important differences the Bible calls "kinds". The definition of "species" certainly has taken a bad twist, too. It's important that parents and otehrs take time to explain all that to the children. If unable, start learning enough now, parents and grandparents, and others in the family. Start by reading their textbooks! It doesn't require knowing genetics or any specific science branch. A little common sense goes a long way, too.

 

[phil112]

Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??

Throw that bible away and stay away from whomever is endorsing it.

Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

 

[Tintin]

I think you should return it! It is not just that it presents evolution as an alternative. What worries me is the rest of the commentary. If you get evolution in the opening pages, who knows where it will go?

Perhaps a regular study Bible would be better? You seem like an intelligent and wise teenager. Why limit yourself to a so-called "teen" commentary? In 6 years you are gong to be 20, and this Bible won't even be relevant. While that may seem like a long time now, you will be surprised how fast the years will pass.

I know I was reading the KJV when I was 12, so I bet you could read a modern version without commentary, and get a lot out of it!

Kaitlyn, Angela is a very wise, godly woman. You'd do well to consider her advice. I also think, at this stage, it's probably best if you just get a good Bible without any commentary. Maybe an ESV (English Standard Version) or an NASB (New American Standard Bible) or a HSCB (Holman Christian Standard Bible). Even the NLT (New Living Translation) would be better than that teen Bible. Just some options to look into. Bless you, sister.

 

[4enlightment]

Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??

Mostly the whole entire Bible is filled up with supernatural events; but if you try to figure it out by logical reasoning from our perception, then you will not profit anything from the scriptures. Remember, God is spirit and spirits are considered as supernatural beings, and if you doesn't believe in the supernatural and then how can you believe in someone that has risen from the grave?

Luke 16:27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” ( Being risen from the grave isn't logical but an supernatural event, but we all trusted in man over God's word, like Eve had trusted in the devil over the Truth. ) Jeremiah 17:5 This is what the Lord says: “Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the Lord. 1 Timothy 6:20 Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,

John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 

[dalconn]

It takes faith (which is supernatural) to believe the bible (which is also supernatural). As you grow in age and wisdom you will see more clearly the folly of man. Be patient, pray about everything and God will light your path.

[h=1]1 Corinthians 1:18-20[/h]18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

 

[JackH]

Hi allI recently bought a new bible - teen life applications study bible. As I flipped through the first few pages of genesis they had this box that said 'ultimate issues the origin of humanity' it then went on to talk about evolution and said this


"The christian, then turns to the supernatural: God did it. It is a simple but utterly profound rationale. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and that sums it up. It does not rule out some kind of God directed evolution, neither does it give it any support"


I'm really confused, is this bad, is this true??

In my opinion, you got some real bad advice from most of the responses.

The statement on evolution is basically the position of those like the Catholic Church and Pat Robertson, among many others.

On the other hand, what is being expressed by many of the responses here is the Young Earth Creationist position. As in, the world is 6000 years old, dinosaurs coexisted with man, and a poor understanding of evolution.

I wouldn't personally make a statement about any Bible without knowing more about it. Like who published it and what translation it is. I suspect it's probably a New Living Translation. And I suspect it's probably a good Bible for a young person like yourself.

Do you attend church? If so, what does your pastor say about the Bible? Are you in a study group with others who use the same Bible?

 

[Word_Swordsman]

In my opinion, you got some real bad advice from most of the responses.

The statement on evolution is basically the position of those like the Catholic Church and Pat Robertson, among many others.

On the other hand, what is being expressed by many of the responses here is the Young Earth Creationist position. As in, the world is 6000 years old, dinosaurs coexisted with man, and a poor understanding of evolution.

I wouldn't personally make a statement about any Bible without knowing more about it. Like who published it and what translation it is. I suspect it's probably a New Living Translation. And I suspect it's probably a good Bible for a young person like yourself.

Do you attend church? If so, what does your pastor say about the Bible? Are you in a study group with others who use the same Bible?

Yes, it is NLT, which is flawed, though better than no Bible at all. I have most commentaries in hardbound, on old omputer magnetic tapes, CDs, DVDs, cellphone apps and internet links. I am convinced now they can become a great distraction, often contradicting one another. Simple Bible reading is by far superior in the beginning, and I have returned to that instead of worrying about what men say about it. When a Christian does that, faith develops from reading or hearing the Bible words, even if not understanding. The Holy Spirit is right alongside as tutor, friend, comforter. Let God speak directly to you through that word. Continue reading while God is quiet, then slow down when your heart leaps a bit. His sheep hear His voice. You will benefit to read a paragraph over and over, or a chapter for two days when that small still voice utters within you, then move on. Once having become acquaited with the whole of the Word, add some education from one good commentary. Mark places that seem to disagree, check them out elsewhere. Finding understanding through agreement adds to your faith.

It is a bad idea to inject controversial science concepts inside a youth Bible. For that matter that doesn't belong in any Bible whatever age the reader. Learn what God says, then go study what men say if you must know.

 

[JackH]

It is a bad idea to inject controversial science concepts inside a youth Bible. For that matter that doesn't belong in any Bible whatever age the reader. Learn what God says, then go study what men say if you must know.

Is a young person this age exposed to "controversial" science concepts in a typical public middle/high school?

What you think God says does not equal what I think God says.

Mostly what you and others who have posted here is have done is promote the Young Earth Creationist propaganda.

Probably the best way to turn off young people to the Bible I can think of.

 

[Tintin]

Is a young person this age exposed to "controversial" science concepts in a typical public middle/high school?

What you think God says does not equal what I think God says.

Mostly what you and others who have posted here is have done is promote the Young Earth Creationist propaganda.

Probably the best way to turn off young people to the Bible I can think of.

No, trying to reconcile evolution with the Bible is probably the best way to provide a stumbling block for young people. They love authenticity, not compromise. Sitting on the fence for too long either leaves you with a sore bum or a massive splinter in a very sensitive region. Also, you're still 97? Why do you bother faking your age?

 

[newbirth]

I don't believe nor preach a theistic Evolution as it is false, but how did the Earth become void and full of darkness and the language of the manuscripts leans to the allowance of the sun to shine rather than being created and the moon also. I meant everything else God created was Good so why wasn't the Earth Good. Yes I suspect that there is a gap, I don't think that God would create something that was void and full of darkness as He is light.

man does not even know where his thoughts come from or where they go...and all we know is what God has revealed to us....and we have the choice to believe or not to believe......

 

[kaitlyn76]

it is a NLT bible

 

[Kerry]

Moses doesn't allow for a gap.

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exo 20:8-11 KJV)

In the context of this passage Moses is referring to 24 hour days, then says that in 6 days God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them.

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Show keeping the Sabbath in the new testament the commandments are repeated in the NT with the exclusion of keeping the Sabbath day and what is the motive behind keeping?

Man the flesh is constantly looking for works to be self righteous. Well bless God I go to church erry Saturday or Sunday, so what the devil goes every day.

The question is where is your faith is it in what you do or is it in what God did?

 

[Tintin]

it is a NLT bible

The NLT is a reasonable translation but it sounds like the commentary is questionable. Pray about it, let God speak as to what happens next.