Need some input: Feeling totally mistreated

[candycane7]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I'm sorry this happened to you! I don't have any quick answers for you but right now I think you just need to be in company of other Christians, so I hope to see you participate more in these forums. Fellowship among brothers and sisters in Christ can strengthen you and maybe help you with questions about the Bible. So maybe a ministry isn't the answer for you right now, but just fellowship. I think you might need that right now!

 

[tablet123]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

Some people do not have patience to deal with people for too long of a time.

Some people might get busy with their own congregation that they might not have time and the needs of their congregation and community come first.

Some may think that after 2 or 3 encounters they put in enough work to start the journey you seek.

And I hate to say this truly I do but from your post of your attitude do you whine to the point of getting on their nerves to where they cannot take it anymore.

Maybe they think they cannot help you because all you show is negativity instead of starting a positive journey if that is the case.

Get it together man for a person would not want to help you if you do not start being positive at some point.

Even a Psychiatrist would say get out of my office and never come back.

I'm sorry but everything is alright and God will not give up on you.

You do seem to worry too much and do not let it beat you down.

I hate to see people in mental pain when all they want to be is happy.

I feel sorry for all the shy, introverts, not a mean person, timid, who just want to be happy but live in a cruel and mean world built on power and control, and self exaltation, where their feelings do not matter scaring them.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

You have to allow the Spirit to lead you.

The Spirit will not lead you if you hold on to sin and if you have doubt.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Well it's good you can come here and get it off your chest. Don't let yourself get too worked up about it.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Tip for reading the bible. When you get to things that disturb you just pass over them and continue reading. Find those passages that feed your spirit. Then as you grow in knowledge and faith you can tackle those other things.

 

[Chris_1985]

I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!

Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I can assure you, God is not like that guy. God wants us to walk in relationship with Him, and will meet us where we are at. I will tell you, with no hesitation that God does not see you as a hopeless case.

Are you overreacting? Maybe, but pray about it. Have conversations with Him. I do frequently, when I'm having doubts. Ask Him to move in your life. It's tough sometimes I know, but it's in the quiet moments that I've found the still, quiet voice of God speaks with me.

I know that you've said that reading The Bible is hard for you. I believe reading The Bible to be essential to our relationship with God, so I offer you this: Try using a phone app called YouVersion. It's an app that I use, and it offers great daily verses and guided scripture. Smaller "bites" if you will that can offer encouragement and may help you on your journey.

Acting like this is not evil in my eyes. The way you're acting is like someone who is struggling to hold onto their faith, use the fellowship here to help you hold on.

Remember, as brothers and sisters in Christ we're here to uplift one another, and yes sometimes that means that you'll be held to account.

Finally I leave you with this, my favorite piece of scripture:

"Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything." -James 1:2-4

 

[Suze]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions




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and wish me well just to show me that he

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Somebody PLEASE tell me:

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then just give up.

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I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

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It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

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he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicatingfake.

Please try to remember that ministers of any denomination r not qualified therapists . They r ministers of God's Word . U say that u r not able to read His Word , so , u and any minister r not going to have much in common at first glance . Pretty much any denomination u approach is going to emphasize the importance of reading the Bible very regularly . If u really do want to get to know God and Jesus then at some point u r going to have to get into it . Why not start with the Old Testament ? At the begining , Genesis then all the way through . The Old Testament is not so much about Christian doctrine and what we as Christians should b striving for , it's more a narrative about other people and their relationships with God and they often mess up ! God still loves them though . It seems to me that your failure to connect with other Christians is being used by u as an excuse not to get to know your God . Don't put your salvation in the hands of another human , humans r very imperfect , God is perfect , in patience and understanding . Concentrate on getting to know Him and stop blaming the fact that others don't behave as u would wish them to , for your inability to connect with God . He is everywhere , so He knows u and your heart and mind better than u do , u can't fool Him . Reach out to Him with an open heart and mind and read the Bible , that's where u will find Him without the hindrance of having to interact with people that u don't like .

 

[Dino246]

Welcome to CC, Candycane7...

Don't let the "rejection" of one person tear you down. There could be many reasons why that person chose to cease contact with you, and many of them could have nothing to do with you.

With respect, your case does sound like one of demonic oppression, and this is not really the right place to deal with that (the Prayer forum would be better). Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour?

 

[Gideon300]

Hi,

Being bound up by unforgiveness cuts you off from God's help. Please read the article linked. It may be difficult. You need to be willing to forgive, even if you know that you cannot. The article is thorough and you will find the key to true forgiveness from your heart. It saved me when my ex wife disappeared with my children. I did not see them for 15 years.

https://christianlife.au/7-can-you-forgive-from-your-heart/

 

[MsMediator]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

First, have you had medical tests which could indicate anxiety, such as female hormones, thyroid, vitamin deficiencies?

Most people probably do not enjoy reading the difficult passages and have some fear (if they are being honest), but your reaction to these verses could be exacerbated by some medical issues.

Second, this person you have been communicating is a nobody. I would try to forget about him.

 

[GWH]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

I can understand that the way some Christians brag about their experience with God is a drag,
so I encourage you to ignore them and concentrate on learning God's Word, asking someone
whose opinion you respect about the meaning of any problematic passages you read.

I have posted my entire life's learning on our website, <truthseekersfellowship.com> to give folks
like yourself a spiritual boost. If you have doubts due to the arguments of atheists, read Lesson 1.
Lesson 2 seeks to explain God's requirement for salvation both simply and in detail. The third lesson
regarding the Holy Spirit was prompted by posts made on CC and is still under construction.
Lessons 4 & 5 list the teachings of Jesus and Paul/Peter. And so forth.
Please feel free to ask for clarification if needed.
Happy Bible studying!

 

[candycane7]

Hello all,
thank you for your answers!

Even if I am being to "whiney" then this is not how you should treat hurting people!

Seriously, can ANYONE imagine Jesus acting like this?

And this guy acted like he wanted to help me. I feel like this was all a show!

I mean if I have the stance that I'll just drop anyone who doesn't DIRECTLY accept EVERYthing I suggest then

I should not even deal with people!


People like this guy cause much more damage than they do good.

I was building up trust to him and really considered getting a "deliverance" and then he just drops me like trash.


I cannot wrap my mind around how someone can be a christian and act so incredibly heartless and inconsiderate and treat

people like trash. This is simply beyond me!


I could NEVER treat people like this. If I noticed that their problems are too big for me then AT LEAST I would tell them

and let them know and wish them well, so that they know that I do NOT treat them like dirt!


This decency should be expected ESPECIALLY from CHRISTIANS!!!!


Really, I am SOOOOO disillusioned. Experiences like this make me want to avoid christians cause now I think that most of

them are as cold and heartless as this guy.


Like I said I made MANY similar experiences with ministries. First they act like "yay, we want to help" and then they are like

"you don't want to get better! you don't even want to be free" and that's it.

----

No, I don't think that I have any deficiencies. Thyroid hormones are okay. I have been having depression,anxiety and ocd

since childhood. Medication also never helped me at all. Been to many doctors over the years some of them even forsook

me and told me that they can't help me. Can you imagine how this feels?

I was even rejected once by a psychologist who complained that I was "dragging him down" with my problems. Oh excuse me

for having problems! I am so sorry.... *facepalm*

I don't wish such devastating experiences upon anyone.


Maybe this guy is even right with the deliverance but I could NEVER EVER get deliverance from such a person which I know

doesn't give a damn about me. NOW WAY!

 

[rrcn]

Hello all,
thank you for your answers!

Even if I am being to "whiney" then this is not how you should treat hurting people!

Seriously, can ANYONE imagine Jesus acting like this?

And this guy acted like he wanted to help me. I feel like this was all a show!

I mean if I have the stance that I'll just drop anyone who doesn't DIRECTLY accept EVERYthing I suggest then

I should not even deal with people!


People like this guy cause much more damage than they do good.

I was building up trust to him and really considered getting a "deliverance" and then he just drops me like trash.


I cannot wrap my mind around how someone can be a christian and act so incredibly heartless and inconsiderate and treat

people like trash. This is simply beyond me!


I could NEVER treat people like this. If I noticed that their problems are too big for me then AT LEAST I would tell them

and let them know and wish them well, so that they know that I do NOT treat them like dirt!


This decency should be expected ESPECIALLY from CHRISTIANS!!!!


Really, I am SOOOOO disillusioned. Experiences like this make me want to avoid christians cause now I think that most of

them are as cold and heartless as this guy.


Like I said I made MANY similar experiences with ministries. First they act like "yay, we want to help" and then they are like

"you don't want to get better! you don't even want to be free" and that's it.

----

No, I don't think that I have any deficiencies. Thyroid hormones are okay. I have been having depression,anxiety and ocd

since childhood. Medication also never helped me at all. Been to many doctors over the years some of them even forsook

me and told me that they can't help me. Can you imagine how this feels?

I was even rejected once by a psychologist who complained that I was "dragging him down" with my problems. Oh excuse me

for having problems! I am so sorry.... *facepalm*

I don't wish such devastating experiences upon anyone.


Maybe this guy is even right with the deliverance but I could NEVER EVER get deliverance from such a person which I know

doesn't give a damn about me. NOW WAY!

Have you prayed about a solution? Discouragement is a tool of the devil. While the solution is quite complex it lasts a lifetime. Over the last 61 years (since I began reading the Bible) I have found that prayer is the beginning of the end of hopelessness.

Also, men will always fail you, trust in Jesus.

 

[Karlon]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

i wish for you to resolve all the hurt very soon. it seems you are absorbed in yourself & what you want & that you want people to react the way you want them to. it doesn't even sound like you believe in God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit. you said you were going to try to make it short. i did not read the whole posting, i skipped here & there. you are overreacting. you have an issue with forgiveness i see. i think you are your worst problem. too, it sounds like you are desiring more that people come to your rescue. do not engage the "cry baby" mode. most people i know would say something like this: "get your head out of bed, wake up, no one is going to help you, help yourself, sit down with your brain & figure this out yourself, now"! i don't mean to sound mean but all the people i know figure out their own problems & move forward, never being in the problem. blessings to you!

 

[Howdy]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

My recommendation is to turn off the internet and all social media and spend some time on your knees in prayer and much time in the Bible.

 

[candycane7]

My recommendation is to turn off the internet and all social media and spend some time on your knees in prayer and much time in the Bible.

Thank you.

 

[Leastofall]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

If I may be so bold as to tell you there is no such thing As a deliverance ministry. You will not find such a ministry in the Bible.
Yes demons were cast out and so forth in the Bible but you will not find a ministry strictly for deliverance.
It may be oppression which is quite common for Christians to experience.
The Holy Spirit convicts.....Satan and his minions condemn. That's the difference.
Be truthful before God in your prayers on how you feel and ask of him to do that which you seek.

 

[aChristian2]

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.[/QUOTE]


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Well Hello there,

read your post, I found the topic very interesting... couple of things come to mind

1st if you read the Bible and it scares you, this is a blessing, and to think it may apply to you is a blessing.... however I think you must face your fear in this regard

2nd if you look for the fault in man, surely you will find it, meaning man will let down man again and again... there is a story in the Old Testament that really teaches me this ( another reason for you to read the Bible to get an education to life

paraphrase
so G-D tells this prophet to go and warn the king (people) and instructs him to enter one way and exit another way after he delivers his message. to which he is obeying..

also he is not to eat or drink with the people of this territory. So another prophet comes to him (after hearing the Miracle G-D did thru this man of G-D)

and tells him to come home with him, the prophet replies no I can not, G-D has instructed me not to... To which the other prophet says an angel told me to come and get you and bring you home with me and to feed you....

so the prophet goes home with him, and G-D sends a message thru the (lying) prophet (as I understand things). that the prophet that listen to the other prophet and disobeyed G-D Almighty was going to be killed and was killed by a lion shortly after..

ouch, been awhile since I read the story, yet even your own Christian family can betray you.. make no mistake....

3rd you have inspired me this night, for I do hear a lot from G-D or His Messengers, at least up until now, and you hoping for this helps me hopefully stay the course... I can tell you to be a servant of G-D is tremendously beautiful, and serious, "to whom much has been given, much will be expected" ( for one) in all I understand. yet I do advised you to Love G-D with all your heart in JESUS

I think we have to count our blessing and not worry about what G-D has in store for us, as opposed to our other family members in CHRIST JESUS.

As for if you think G-D thinks some negative thing about you, G-D is Love and always thinks from LOVE, when we think from the negative this is of the flesh, G-D Speaks from HIS LIGHT ( in all I understand) and of course G-D Loves you, HE Sent JESUS, and The BIBLE Tells me so!!! scripture cannot be broken, and a sure guide to all creatures.

prayer, worship, sing unto G-D in JESUS GREAT NAME.... avoid the worldly lusts , go and find out what this means....

Seek the LORD and you shall find, knock and the door will be answered, G-D's Definition of knocking not ours....
reading your Bible, prayers, separation from the worldly lusts (Egypt) may be a must, yet I digress that is between you and JESUS. your videos are a start, for certain I would say, yet as you grow..... so will your prayer and Bible Life...

again care only what JESUS thinks of you, not man,,, pray, acts/words of kindness and wait on The LORD,,, I am sure you are finding friendly voices, and help here.

take care, you will have a prayer from me shortly

Bruce

 

[aChristian2]

This decency should be expected ESPECIALLY from CHRISTIANS!!!!


No, I don't think that I have any deficiencies. Thyroid hormones are okay. I have been having depression,anxiety and ocd

I was even rejected once by a psychologist who complained that I was "dragging him down" with my problems. Oh excuse me

====================================

I have heard it said rejection is very hard on us humans, it is on me!

maybe something happened to this contact in the ministry, perhaps not yet we don't know.....

you are right that we should expect better From Christians, and perhaps Christians that treat others poorly will have regrets, as I do from many interactions with others, when I should have acted much better...

avoiding Christians may not be the answer, especially in the long run, however, if you spend time with CHRIST, then let HIM guide you to the right Christian or group.. I am sure you know this, yet sometimes we do not do what is good for us... Perhaps it's time to turn to JESUS, The Master, and not HIS Servants....

like I heard someone say here, if the enemy can get you to think poorly of Christians whispering in your ear, they do not care, turn to the world it cares.... ouch!! your in the fight, we Christians are mandated to love, and that goes for you to us...haha.. in Love

we are a family yet with many faults, I speak for myself...

Smile JESUS LOVES YOU!

 

[PennEd]

Hi,

I am not sure if this forum section is right for this topic or not.

I try to make this short.

I am VERY upset and offended and to be honest also speechless.

What happened is this:

I decided to contact a deliverance ministry which has videos on youtube. I approached them with some

questions and issues which I struggle with. I described that I suffer from doubts and anxiety and that I have been

having this for many many years and that I am also very dissatisfied because unlike these christians who appear in their

testimony videos which they show on youtube I am not able to experience God, which drags me down.

Then I wonder what's wrong with me? Why do other people see Jesus or hear God or simply

experience God in supernatural ways and I don't?

This is really dragging me down. Because of this watching these testimonies is also hurtful to me.

Anyway, that's what I basically described in my first email.

Then I got a reply indicating that I might require deliverance and that they would offer it to me for free.

The person also made a few suggestions, like I should study the bible every day. To that I replied

that one of my problems is that

I am also scared of reading in the bible (yes, I know this sounds weird) cause every time when I

come across a verse which scares me, like

for example the many parables of the lazy servant or the bad soil, then I ALWAYS become

afraid and start to worry if this could be applying to me. To me it really makes no sense to read in the

bible if the result is ALWAYS that I feel bad afterwards.


I tried to describe to this person that I cannot "just read the bible".

For me reading the bible usually leads to frustration. This is why I don't really

get into it. The "best" I can do is listen to sermons from grace preachers, which I can tolerate.

Anything else only messes me up.


I was basically starting to build up some trust with this deliverance person.

I also explained that I'm scared of being alone and that I have made

the experience many times that I went to a minister for help either in person or via internet or phone and that

this person made a few suggestions

and then I was on my own again and if his "advice" didn't work for me then I'd be alone again.


But now here comes the REALLY disturbing part.

After 2 or 3 emails back and forth this person simply cut me off! He simply stopped replying alltogether.

HOW SICK AND MEAN IS THIS? Seriously, I am just speechless.

I mean even if this guy realized that I'm "too complicated" then could he not at least tell me this

and wish me well just to show me that he

actually gives a damn?

But simply cutting a hurting person off is absolutely sick and twisted, is it not?????


You cannot imagine how much this messes with my mind! I am so angry and also hurt.

I just keep thinking and wondering how on earth can

a person be a christian and at the same time be SO mean and inconsiderate?

I feel totally mistreated.

This is like a doctor opening up an infested wound only to look at it and then do nothing else and then close it again.

This feels exactly the same.


My whole exchange with this person has ONLY caused me more pain and grief.

1) I had to describe my struggles, which is already painful cause I bring up all this stuff

2) He didn't offer ANY help or comfort

3) He cut me off and made me feel like dirt or like a totally hopeless case


I even wonder what if God is like this guy? What if God feels like I'm a totally hopeless case, too?

This is just AWFUL!



Somebody PLEASE tell me:

Is this just me? Am I overreacting?

Or is acting like this simply evil?

I am becoming so disillusioned cause I have made similar experiences many times now with "ministries".

At first the people are like "We want to help you" and then you quickly notice that they become frustrated and

then just give up.

It's like they don't REALLY want to help, or at least not if it requires effort on their part.


I don't think I will ever contact any ministry again.

Being disappointed in such a way totally messes with my mind.

It makes me become really bitter and resentful which is not good at all. I still feel so angry at this person.

I wish this guy was a fake then at least I knew he's not a real christian.

This would explain him acting in such a cold manner, but I don't think

he's a fake. I couldn't find anything online indicating that he or his ministry are fake.

TBH, If a Dr. gives you the medicine that will help you get better, and you refuse to take it because you are afraid or it initially makes you feel bad, what else is the Dr supposed to do?

The person told you to read your Bible every day. The Word is our Daily Bread. The Israelites had to collect Manna DAILY. So you need the Word DAILY.

The enemy wants to keep you away from the medicine. He's the one putting evil thoughts in your head as you read it.

He does this to depress God's children, so they will be a less effective witness.
If you believe God became flesh, in the form of Jesus Christ, who suffered and died for your sins, and rose to life on the 3rd day, YOU are one of His Children.

Believe it. Live it. And as God says 365 times in Scripture FEAR NOT!