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76 year old male that has rounded third and headed for home. Searched for over 40 years for answers to why people believe what they believe and the search continues. Thousands of questions but will begin with three.
#1. If God forgives sins when we confess, just exactly what is the disadvantage of sinning?
#2. I can't find anywhere in the Bible of any of the great men and women saying, "I got saved today!" Not even the Apostle Paul. Saved from what?
#3. Why do we call Him "Jesus" when the letter "J" was not a part of the alphabet when He was born? Google the Original 1611 KJV, the Hebrew, and Aramaic writings. Bottom line: Does it matter what we call Him as long as we know who He is and what He's done for us and His promises for our eternity?

Reason for my questions: my math is average but I've found that in the Gospels, Jesus was asked about 183 questions of which he gave definitive answers to only 3. He, Himself, asked about 307 questions. I too believe questions enlist people to think about why they believe what they believe.
Your input is appreciated, friend or foe.
Thank you.
JPT
 
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Welcome and so glad to have you joining the fellowship here at CC! Those are great questions and if you post them in the Bible Discussion Forum (BDF) you will get many answers. I'll take the first one. The disadvantage of sinning is that it is a waste of valuable time that we instead should be sharing the Gospel and building up our faith. Beside when we ask for forgiveness we need to repent. True God's mercies are new every day but God also knows our hearts so we need to respect His goodness.
God bless you and your time here!
 
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JPT said:
#1. If God forgives sins when we confess, just exactly what is the disadvantage of sinning?
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The disadvantage of sinning is you are violating God's principles, put in place to protect you and others from harm, pain, and suffering. If one can really do things that hurt others without experiencing pangs of conscience or sense of wrong-doing, free of an attendant desire to do and be better, I would fear for any in their sphere of influence. We might call such a person a psychopath, or a sociopath. They are truly dangerous, and best avoided. It is not just a matter of confessing, but of repenting also.

JPT said:
#2. I can't find anywhere in the Bible of any of the great men and women saying, "I got saved today!" Not even the Apostle Paul. Saved from what?
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We are saved from God's wrath. That is the short answer. The longer answer is that people know God exists, but due to their pride, refuse Him entry into their lives. Yet they have no excuse, and on the day of judgment at the end of this age, will be condemned under the law, and suffer the second death. Jesus saves. By unmerited grace through faith in His shed righteous blood for the remission of sins, those who believe in Him escape the second death and attain to life ever after. And really, why should God allow into His house and/or extend more life to those who refuse to acknowledge His existence and credit Him for giving them life in the first place?

I did a biblehub search for the word "saved." 1129 verses were found. Check some of them out for yourself here (<= link :))

Co-incidentally, I am working on a panel started earlier today. It is not done yet, but looks like this so far:



JPT said:
#3. Why do we call Him "Jesus" when the letter "J" was not a part of the alphabet when He was born?
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Because we speak English.

Jesus’ name in English comes from the Latin Isus, which is a transliteration of the Greek Iesous,
which is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua, which comes from the Hebrew Yehoshua,
or Joshua. The name comes from the Hebrew verb yasha, which means “he saves,” and the proper name
“Ya,” which is short for the name Yahweh. Put together, Jesus’ name in its original languages means
“Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is salvation.” source


What A Beautiful Name

Joshua is the original Hebrew form of the Greek name Jesus.
Meaning: Yah Saves, Yah Will Save, Yah Is Salvation

Etymology:
(1) יה (yah), the name of the Lord, and
(2) the verb ישע (yasha'), to save or deliver.

A shortened form of Joshua is the name Jeshua (ישוע). The New Testament
was written in ancient Greek, and Yeshua, an Aramaic short form of the
Hebrew name Yehoshua, was rendered as Iesous, which became Iesus
in Latin and Jesus in English. “God is deliverance.”
 
Magenta

Magenta

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JPT said:
Searched for over 40 years for answers to why people believe what they believe and the search continues.
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Have you ever humbled yourself before God? Gotten down on your knees and asked Him to reveal Himself to you?


from Deuteronomy 4 and Isaiah 55
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JPT said:
76 year old male that has rounded third and headed for home. Searched for over 40 years for answers to why people believe what they believe and the search continues. Thousands of questions but will begin with three.
#1. If God forgives sins when we confess, just exactly what is the disadvantage of sinning?
#2. I can't find anywhere in the Bible of any of the great men and women saying, "I got saved today!" Not even the Apostle Paul. Saved from what?
#3. Why do we call Him "Jesus" when the letter "J" was not a part of the alphabet when He was born? Google the Original 1611 KJV, the Hebrew, and Aramaic writings. Bottom line: Does it matter what we call Him as long as we know who He is and what He's done for us and His promises for our eternity?

Reason for my questions: my math is average but I've found that in the Gospels, Jesus was asked about 183 questions of which he gave definitive answers to only 3. He, Himself, asked about 307 questions. I too believe questions enlist people to think about why they believe what they believe.
Your input is appreciated, friend or foe.
Thank you.
JPT
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Hello and welcome to Christian chat.

Good questions and there are certainly answers! I hope you make a post on the Bible Discussion Forum at some point.
 
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JPT said:
76 year old male that has rounded third and headed for home. Searched for over 40 years for answers to why people believe what they believe and the search continues. Thousands of questions but will begin with three.
#1. If God forgives sins when we confess, just exactly what is the disadvantage of sinning?
#2. I can't find anywhere in the Bible of any of the great men and women saying, "I got saved today!" Not even the Apostle Paul. Saved from what?
#3. Why do we call Him "Jesus" when the letter "J" was not a part of the alphabet when He was born? Google the Original 1611 KJV, the Hebrew, and Aramaic writings. Bottom line: Does it matter what we call Him as long as we know who He is and what He's done for us and His promises for our eternity?

Reason for my questions: my math is average but I've found that in the Gospels, Jesus was asked about 183 questions of which he gave definitive answers to only 3. He, Himself, asked about 307 questions. I too believe questions enlist people to think about why they believe what they believe.
Your input is appreciated, friend or foe.
Thank you.
JPT
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Hi JPT,

Welcome aboard. How's your day been?
 
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Magenta said:
Have you ever humbled yourself before God? Gotten down on your knees and asked Him to reveal Himself to you?


from Deuteronomy 4 and Isaiah 55
:)
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Yes, and this is what was revealed. Unless I hear the Voice of God in my current troubles, words written thousands of years ago won't help me today. Too many people today believe in Bibliolatry and have elevated the Bible to the fourth level of the Trinity. They won't walk down the hall without a Bible under their arm. My support of this: John 5:39-40. My personal belief, and I may be wrong, is that the Bible is a book of words and words by themselves have no meaning. People give meaning to words so the Bible says what people say it says. Therefore, division, different religions, hate for those that don't worship the way we do, etc. Getting on my knees before God showed me it's all about a relationship with the Creator. The Bible, to me, is a library and not a book. It was written for me but not to me. Forgive me if this is offensive.
 
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blueskies said:
Hello and welcome, it is great to have you here.

For Paul, please see: Acts 9:1- 22.

See what you think about Paul’s experience and what it means.
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blueskies:
I can't find any statement by Paul about being saved today. My view is Paul was pursuing salvation everyday but he had not yet attained that goal and wouldn't until the last day. Does this challenge the "Permanence of Salvation" movement? Give me your thoughts here, please.
 
Magenta

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JPT said:
I can't find any statement by Paul about being saved today.
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Have you read the epistles by John? He said he wrote certain things so that people who believe
in the name of the Son of God may know (present tense) that they have eternal life. One cannot
be in possession of eternal life unless one is saved. Although not written to your specifications,
it amounts to the same thing. Line by line and precept by precept...


1 John 5:11-13
:)
 
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Magenta said:
The disadvantage of sinning is you are violating God's principles, put in place to protect you and others from harm, pain, and suffering. If one can really do things that hurt others without experiencing pangs of conscience or sense of wrong-doing, free of an attendant desire to do and be better, I would fear for any in their sphere of influence. We might call such a person a psychopath, or a sociopath. They are truly dangerous, and best avoided. It is not just a matter of confessing, but of repenting also.

We are saved from God's wrath. That is the short answer. The longer answer is that people know God exists, but due to their pride, refuse Him entry into their lives. Yet they have no excuse, and on the day of judgment at the end of this age, will be condemned under the law, and suffer the second death. Jesus saves. By unmerited grace through faith in His shed righteous blood for the remission of sins, those who believe in Him escape the second death and attain to life ever after. And really, why should God allow into His house and/or extend more life to those who refuse to acknowledge His existence and credit Him for giving them life in the first place?

I did a biblehub search for the word "saved." 1129 verses were found. Check some of them out for yourself here (<= link :))

Co-incidentally, I am working on a panel started earlier today. It is not done yet, but looks like this so far:




Because we speak English.

Jesus’ name in English comes from the Latin Isus, which is a transliteration of the Greek Iesous,
which is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua, which comes from the Hebrew Yehoshua,
or Joshua. The name comes from the Hebrew verb yasha, which means “he saves,” and the proper name
“Ya,” which is short for the name Yahweh. Put together, Jesus’ name in its original languages means
“Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is salvation.” source


What A Beautiful Name

Joshua is the original Hebrew form of the Greek name Jesus.
Meaning: Yah Saves, Yah Will Save, Yah Is Salvation

Etymology:
(1) יה (yah), the name of the Lord, and
(2) the verb ישע (yasha'), to save or deliver.

A shortened form of Joshua is the name Jeshua (ישוע). The New Testament
was written in ancient Greek, and Yeshua, an Aramaic short form of the
Hebrew name Yehoshua, was rendered as Iesous, which became Iesus
in Latin and Jesus in English. “God is deliverance.”
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Magenta
I'm in total agreement that we speak English and not trying to generate frustration but the thought comes to mind that when we pronounce the Latin name Jesus for our named friends south of us, we use their dialect of Hay-sus. Interesting.
 
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JPT said:
Magenta
I'm in total agreement that we speak English and not trying to generate frustration but the thought comes to mind that when we pronounce the Latin name Jesus for our named friends south of us, we use their dialect of Hay-sus. Interesting.
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They do not speak Latin but Spanish.

In modern languages, there are differences in the pronunciation of Jesus. In English, the name is pronounced with a hard “J,” while in Spanish, even though the spelling is the same, the name is pronounced with what would be an “H” in English.

It is precisely this type of transliteration that has evolved “Yeshua” into the modern “Jesus.” source
 
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Magenta said:
Have you read the epistles by John? He said he wrote certain things so that people who believe
in the name of the Son of God may know (present tense) that they have eternal life. One cannot
be in possession of eternal life unless one is saved. Although not written to your specifications,
it amounts to the same thing. Line by line and precept by precept...


1 John 5:11-13
:)
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Magenta:
I'm in perfect agreement with your wisdom about John, however, my concern is about "may" instead of "will". But the challenge remains that I can't find anywhere in the Bible where any of the great men and women stated, "I got saved today." Please help me out here. Thank you for your response.
 
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JPT said:
Magenta:
I'm in perfect agreement with your wisdom about John, however, my concern is about "may" instead of "will". But the challenge remains that I can't find anywhere in the Bible where any of the great men and women stated, "I got saved today." Please help me out here. Thank you for your response.
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You will have the same problem in regard to many issues, one of which some
like to bandy about because Jesus never said the exact words "I am God." And
yet is is made plain for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. In regards to
"You may know..." Yes, I do see your point. You may but you may not. Some
people are like that with their faith. Never quite sure. They are sadly blown
about and question their salvation at every juncture, turn, and challenge.
 
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Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood
the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who
love Him. James 1:1-2 I suppose it comes down to whether or not we believe
God's promises, how we understand what has been given us in Scripture,
and what we believe God's character to be. And what we believe about Jesus.
 
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