Noahide Laws and the anti-christ

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dcontroversal said:
Nor is there a Roman king.........but there will be a 12th IMAM/Madhi ;)
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Thats not what scripture says.. I will go with Scripture.

Rome is defeated By Christ at his return, when the ROCK hits and total destroys the final gentile kingdom.
 
dcontroversal said:
OK.....Should be simple enough....quote a verse that states the Holy Spirit restrains the rise of the Beast.

I will wait......
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Quote me one that says he does not

I will wait also.

Are you denying that God is not restraining as we speak?
 
dcontroversal said:
There ya go, now you are getting it....the bible does not say the Holy Spirit restrains.....let it speak where it speaks and lay silent where it lays silent.......
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It does not say he is not restraining

But it does say the antichrist is being restrained,

I mean WHo but God can hold Satan back from doing everything he could do. Could you imagine if God removed his hand how bad it would be. I do not think people realize this.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
It does not say he is not restraining

But it does say the antichrist is being restrained,

I mean WHo but God can hold Satan back from doing everything he could do. Could you imagine if God removed his hand how bad it would be. I do not think people realize this.
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I do realize this and I also know his advent is by the power and enabling of SATAN.....the one who will be empowered CANNOT be empowered until HE arises or arrives on the scene......it is all about timing.......and SATAN cannot empower the man if the man is not on the scene.....exactly why he will HOLD that power until it is time for him time relinquish THAT POWER.....
 
dcontroversal said:
I do realize this and I also know his advent is by the power and enabling of SATAN.....the one who will be empowered CANNOT be empowered until HE arises or arrives on the scene......it is all about timing.......and SATAN cannot empower the man if the man is not on the scene.....exactly why he will HOLD that power until it is time for him time relinquish THAT POWER.....
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Yes your right

But he also can not be empowered until he who restrains is taken out of the middle

Satan can not do anything without gods permission
 
jaybird88 said:
I didn't watch it.
So does anyone know how the two are connected? Seems like a very strange marriage.
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It's not long. It answers your question.

It's like when you send out an email to people, and when they see you they ask a ton of questions THAT ARE IN THE EMAIL! Are we that lazy?
 
PennEd said:
It's not long. It answers your question.

It's like when you send out an email to people, and when they see you they ask a ton of questions THAT ARE IN THE EMAIL! Are we that lazy?
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I can't watch from phone.
So the people in video think the antichrist made the covenant with Noah, is this what you believe?
 
jaybird88 said:
I can't watch from phone.
So the people in video think the antichrist made the covenant with Noah, is this what you believe?
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They believe their coming messiah, who I believe is THE Antichrist, will enforce the Noahide laws in all nations. Breaking of the laws is punishable with death by decapitation.
 
PennEd said:
They believe their coming messiah, who I believe is THE Antichrist, will enforce the Noahide laws in all nations. Breaking of the laws is punishable with death by decapitation.
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Boy are they going to get a suprise.

I do have a question though. Why does this “messiah” go after the jews. And why does God need to protect them (the woman) causing him to go after her offspring, (the gentile church)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Boy are they going to get a suprise.

I do have a question though. Why does this “messiah” go after the jews. And why does God need to protect them (the woman) causing him to go after her offspring, (the gentile church)
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I can certainly speculate if you like.

I'm convinced their messiah will be Jewish, partially Jewish, or at least have credible evidence that he is.

I think we need to look at this in light of what happened right after Jesus' Ascension, where SOME Jews, namely Pharisees and Sadducees persecuted and killed other JEWS, who had accepted their Messiah, and spread His Gospel. We must remember that we have been grafted in to THEM, the True Jews, not the other way around. Obviously I am NOT suggesting we need to follow Jewish Law.
I think a similar scenario will shape up at that time. You will have those CLAIMING to be Jews, but are of the synagogue of satan, persecuting and killing not only other Jews, but Christians as well.
 
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PennEd said:
I can certainly speculate if you like.

I'm convinced their messiah will be Jewish, partially Jewish, or at least have credible evidence that he is.

I think we need to look at this in light of what happened right after Jesus' Ascension, where SOME Jews, namely Pharisees and Sadducees persecuted and killed other JEWS, who had accepted their Messiah, and spread His Gospel. We must remember that we have been grafted in to THEM, the True Jews, not the other way around. Obviously I am NOT suggesting we need to follow Jewish Law.
I think a similar scenario will shape up at that time. You will have those CLAIMING to be Jews, but are of the synagogue of satan, persecuting and killing not only other Jews, but Christians as well.
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How do they come to power in rome. And become so powrful they can control the earths finances, and not only this, convince the world they are a bringer of peace. So the world grants him use of their armies, their finances, their resources, everything (even Islam evidently grants the jewish people the ability to rebuild the temple. Or at the least. This leader is so powerful. He controls Islam by the sword so they can not stop Isreal from rebuilding this temple)

No matter what kind of Jew he is, I can not fathom the world accepting this (considering how much the world HATES the jewish people)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
How do they come to power in rome. And become so powrful they can control the earths finances, and not only this, convince the world they are a bringer of peace. So the world grants him use of their armies, their finances, their resources, everything (even Islam evidently grants the jewish people the ability to rebuild the temple. Or at the least. This leader is so powerful. He controls Islam by the sword so they can not stop Isreal from rebuilding this temple)

No matter what kind of Jew he is, I can not fathom the world accepting this (considering how much the world HATES the jewish people)
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It would be too much speculation to say how he will accomplish all this, but I'm confident he will be tied up with Rome and the Pope in some fashion.
 
PennEd said:
They believe their coming messiah, who I believe is THE Antichrist, will enforce the Noahide laws in all nations. Breaking of the laws is punishable with death by decapitation.
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Aren't the laws of Noah already on the nations.
 
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