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1 Corinthians 6:9-11 clearly says that drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God and we should not be deceived into believing they would. Because the true washed believer does not engage in the things listed therein anymore.
This is an example of how OSAS makes scripture void and of none effect.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 clearly says that drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God and we should not be deceived into believing they would. Because the true washed believer does not engage in the things listed therein anymore.
This is an example of how OSAS makes scripture void and of none effect.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
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Okay, so in the CONTEXT of the passage under discussion, it contrasts "ye" and "them" (vv.3-4), and contrasts "ye/we/us" with the "G3062 ['others' in kjv; 'left, left behind, the rest'--same Greek word as in 1Th4:13 speaking of the 'unsaved' who 'have no hope']" (vv.5-6), and contrasts "they" and "us, who are of the day" (vv.7-9), and you are telling me that verse 10 is communicating the EXACT SAME message [thought/idea/expression] that those other 12 verses are communicating (with regard to the word "WATCH"--that this verse is virtually IDENTICAL to what the other 12 verses are saying, in conveying the SAME THOUGHT/SAME "DIRECTION/instruction"/SAME MESSAGE) ??
I would say they are conveying completely DISTINCT things (regarding the word "WATCH").
And we are called to distinguish the things that differ and that it is a right and good thing to be "CORRECTLY APPORTION[-ing] the word of truth"... applying it properly to whom it properly applies in any given context (this is not to say we do not learn from ALL of it, things of value and application, but I'm referring to "application" in a primary sense, like the "SEE-[then]-FLEE" in the Lk21:12-24 section of the Olivet Discourse pertains to the events surrounding 70ad [NOT saying other parts of the Olivet Discourse aren't "FAR-future," they are!]--but are not for us to "SEE-[then]-FLEE" Lk21:23,20
THAT would be a WRONG APPLICATION, applying things willy-nilly, not that there is NO lesson in it for us, just like our viewing the Exodus does, as well).
So I am not persuaded by your explanation, which sounds to me only like so much human reasoning.
I would say they are conveying completely DISTINCT things (regarding the word "WATCH").
And we are called to distinguish the things that differ and that it is a right and good thing to be "CORRECTLY APPORTION[-ing] the word of truth"... applying it properly to whom it properly applies in any given context (this is not to say we do not learn from ALL of it, things of value and application, but I'm referring to "application" in a primary sense, like the "SEE-[then]-FLEE" in the Lk21:12-24 section of the Olivet Discourse pertains to the events surrounding 70ad [NOT saying other parts of the Olivet Discourse aren't "FAR-future," they are!]--but are not for us to "SEE-[then]-FLEE" Lk21:23,20
THAT would be a WRONG APPLICATION, applying things willy-nilly, not that there is NO lesson in it for us, just like our viewing the Exodus does, as well).So I am not persuaded by your explanation, which sounds to me only like so much human reasoning.
“shall not inherit” - this has nothing to do with a persons salvation. Salvation is a “FREE GIFT” while your rewards are “EARNED.” (See Col. 3:24)
The Kingdom of God is a “Spiritual” Kingdom, that has an inheritance attached to it. Your Millennial Rewards (inheritance) is at stake. A Christian can lose his inheritance, and not reign with Christ during this Millennial Kingdom. (2 Jn. 8)
In this passage Paul is speaking of the unsaved. They “are” the things listed here, but in the text in (Gal. 5:19), Paul is speaking about the “works of the flesh” in a saved person. (6:9) Notice how Paul words it in (vs. 11)… “An such were some of you…”
Before a person gets saved, they are the things that they do. When a person gets saved, they are no longer those things, even though they may do them.
The Kingdom of God is a “Spiritual” Kingdom, that has an inheritance attached to it. Your Millennial Rewards (inheritance) is at stake. A Christian can lose his inheritance, and not reign with Christ during this Millennial Kingdom. (2 Jn. 8)
In this passage Paul is speaking of the unsaved. They “are” the things listed here, but in the text in (Gal. 5:19), Paul is speaking about the “works of the flesh” in a saved person. (6:9) Notice how Paul words it in (vs. 11)… “An such were some of you…”
Before a person gets saved, they are the things that they do. When a person gets saved, they are no longer those things, even though they may do them.
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Notice that 1 Corinthians 6:9 says the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. These are those who practice such sins/unbelievers (Galatians 5:19-21) and is not talking about a believer who temporarily stumbles. 1 Corinthians 6:11 clearly points out that such were some of you.. So it’s the unrighteous who practice such sins and not the righteous who are born of God. (1 John 3:9)
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