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Think about these truths...
A. He emptied himself of glory and did not use the advantage he had as being equal with God, but BECAME A MAN
B. He was the second ADAM and BOTH were SINLESS but in flesh <--Christ the likeness of SINFUL FLESH
C. He was tempted IN ALL points as we are tempted for at least 40 days PLUS the three we read about.
D. IT was the Holy Spirit that drove him into the wilderness to be TEMPTED
E. HE WAS ALL MAN
F. IF HE HAD NO ability to SIN, there WAS NO PURPOSE for the temptations which the SPIRIT drove him into the wilderness for
He was TEMPTED IN ALL POINTS AS WE ARE TEMPTED YET WITHOUT SIN. <-this implies he had the ability to sin! BUT DID NOT!
The conclusions are obvious regardless of what MacArthur thought.
A. He emptied himself of glory and did not use the advantage he had as being equal with God, but BECAME A MAN
B. He was the second ADAM and BOTH were SINLESS but in flesh <--Christ the likeness of SINFUL FLESH
C. He was tempted IN ALL points as we are tempted for at least 40 days PLUS the three we read about.
D. IT was the Holy Spirit that drove him into the wilderness to be TEMPTED
E. HE WAS ALL MAN
F. IF HE HAD NO ability to SIN, there WAS NO PURPOSE for the temptations which the SPIRIT drove him into the wilderness for
He was TEMPTED IN ALL POINTS AS WE ARE TEMPTED YET WITHOUT SIN. <-this implies he had the ability to sin! BUT DID NOT!
The conclusions are obvious regardless of what MacArthur thought.
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Don't take this as an insult it is only an observation: you are one of the worst Bible scholars on this board. And I am not making any claims of heresy when I say that.
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5254.htm
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5254.htm
No, I don't agree...ADAM WAS PERFECT and GOOD when he was created. Without The sin nature but STILL could choose, did so and SINNED...JESUS was the 2nd ADAM with the SAME ABILITY...you can forget it...you will not convince me Jesus could not sin....the scriptures, when added = he had the ability as a MAN, THE SECOND ADAM to sin but DID NOT and your use of him being GOD falls flat on it's face in light of him EMPTYING himself, becoming a MAN in the likeness of Sinful flesh and NOT USING HIS EQUALITY WITH GOD to his advantage to overcome.....so....might as well move on to someone else or just accept the truth I just gave you man.
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This is in reference to Exodus 12:13:
...and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
And this action lead to this testimony:
Exodus 15:13
You in your mercy has led forth the people which you have redeemed.
And
Exodus 15:16
...the people...which you have purchased.
But these same individuals, that were redeemed, purchased, and covered by the blood, ended up like this after disobedience:
Numbers 14:
[27] How long shall I bear with this evil congregation...[30] Doubtless you shall not come into the land, concerning which I swore to make you dwell therein...[32] But as for you, your carcasses, they shall fall in this wilderness. ...[34] ...and you shall know my breach of promise.
Now take grave heed to this new testament passage that uses the very scriptures I just quoted in the old testament:
1 Corinthians 10:
[10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. [11] Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition...[12] Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
...and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
And this action lead to this testimony:
Exodus 15:13
You in your mercy has led forth the people which you have redeemed.
And
Exodus 15:16
...the people...which you have purchased.
But these same individuals, that were redeemed, purchased, and covered by the blood, ended up like this after disobedience:
Numbers 14:
[27] How long shall I bear with this evil congregation...[30] Doubtless you shall not come into the land, concerning which I swore to make you dwell therein...[32] But as for you, your carcasses, they shall fall in this wilderness. ...[34] ...and you shall know my breach of promise.
Now take grave heed to this new testament passage that uses the very scriptures I just quoted in the old testament:
1 Corinthians 10:
[10] Neither murmur ye, as some of them murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. [11] Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition...[12] Wherefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Why do you think I disagree with the above at least the bit that is clear??? There is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ.
Do you think the body is now completed? Is that a statement of faith? I mean you certainly don’t think his works in me are completed in his body (although Im not quite sure what that exactly means as I said. Is the church completed? What else do you mean?
Do you think the body is now completed? Is that a statement of faith? I mean you certainly don’t think his works in me are completed in his body (although Im not quite sure what that exactly means as I said. Is the church completed? What else do you mean?
I consider Jesus the expert on how to address God. Don’t need a lesser view.
What God actually said has been lost and no one who walked with Him since Jesus ever used a false handle. Sorry but that is certainly not what God says. It’s made up.
Wont hurt. They might know Greek but I know God. He didn’t tell anyone to use that word since Jesus and including.
But of course one needn’t learn to pray from Jesus. One can prefer theologians.
What God actually said has been lost and no one who walked with Him since Jesus ever used a false handle. Sorry but that is certainly not what God says. It’s made up.
Wont hurt. They might know Greek but I know God. He didn’t tell anyone to use that word since Jesus and including.
But of course one needn’t learn to pray from Jesus. One can prefer theologians.
Is there an example in the Bible of a man taking a name for himself that honors his own character and God is thereby honored? Doesn’t it speak more of your character that you are a grateful person? The object of your gratitude is not mentioned.
But I will stop. It is just that when a person judges another to be proud, they ought to consider how they talk of themselves to people. One member thought your names cool, not that God is good.
But I will stop. It is just that when a person judges another to be proud, they ought to consider how they talk of themselves to people. One member thought your names cool, not that God is good.