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VCO

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You'll have to first explain which 5:24? Ezekiel chap 5 only goes to v.17. (That was the last book being referenced.)
Ezek 5:17 [HCSB]
I will send famine and dangerous animals against you. They will leave you childless, Jerusalem. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring a sword against you. I, Yahweh, have spoken.”

Are you sure you have the Correct verse. This is a verse spoken to Israel the majority, NOT THE FEW WHO HAD IT RIGHT.
 

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Explain all of them. And collect a hundred foreskins.
OUCH

Joshua 5:2-6,8 NET
At that time the LORD told Joshua, "Make flint knives and circumcise the Israelites once again." [3] So Joshua made flint knives and circumcised the Israelites at the Hill of the Foreskins. [4] This is why Joshua had to circumcise them: All the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt died on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt. [5] Now all the men who left were circumcised, but all the sons born on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt were uncircumcised. [6] Indeed, for forty years the Israelites traveled through the wilderness until all the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt, the ones who had disobeyed the LORD, died off. For the LORD had sworn a solemn oath to them that he would not let them see the land he had sworn by oath to their ancestors to give them, a land rich in milk and honey. [8] When all the men had been circumcised, they stayed there in the camp until they had healed.
 

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OUCH

Joshua 5:2-6,8 NET
At that time the LORD told Joshua, "Make flint knives and circumcise the Israelites once again." [3] So Joshua made flint knives and circumcised the Israelites at the Hill of the Foreskins. [4] This is why Joshua had to circumcise them: All the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt died on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt. [5] Now all the men who left were circumcised, but all the sons born on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt were uncircumcised. [6] Indeed, for forty years the Israelites traveled through the wilderness until all the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt, the ones who had disobeyed the LORD, died off. For the LORD had sworn a solemn oath to them that he would not let them see the land he had sworn by oath to their ancestors to give them, a land rich in milk and honey. [8] When all the men had been circumcised, they stayed there in the camp until they had healed.
1 Samuel 18:27
David took his men with him and went out and killed two hundred Philistines and brought
back their foreskins. They counted out the full number to the king so that David might
become the king’s son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage.


Explain all of them. And collect a hundred foreskins.
I thought 200 was the benchmark...
 

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Joshua 5:2-6,8 NET
At that time the LORD told Joshua, "Make flint knives and circumcise the Israelites once again." [3] So Joshua made flint knives and circumcised the Israelites at the Hill of the Foreskins. [4] This is why Joshua had to circumcise them: All the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt died on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt. [5] Now all the men who left were circumcised, but all the sons born on the journey through the wilderness after they left Egypt were uncircumcised. [6] Indeed, for forty years the Israelites traveled through the wilderness until all the men old enough to fight when they left Egypt, the ones who had disobeyed the LORD, died off. For the LORD had sworn a solemn oath to them that he would not let them see the land he had sworn by oath to their ancestors to give them, a land rich in milk and honey. [8] When all the men had been circumcised, they stayed there in the camp until they had healed.
I figured if you were going to have to jump through hoops anyways, you should do it in style. I was thinking more of David collecting Philistine foreskins, but I should have been more specific.
 

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1 Samuel 18:27
David took his men with him and went out and killed two hundred Philistines and brought
back their foreskins. They counted out the full number to the king so that David might
become the king’s son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage.



I thought 200 was the benchmark...
My requests always engender grace. I'll have to check but I thought the original request by Saul was only 100, but I could be wrong.
 

Magenta

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My requests always engender grace. I'll have to check but I thought the original request by Saul was only 100, but I could be wrong.
Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a
hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’”
Ah! You are correct .:D
 

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Ezek 5:17 [HCSB]
I will send famine and dangerous animals against you. They will leave you childless, Jerusalem. Plague and bloodshed will sweep through you, and I will bring a sword against you. I, Yahweh, have spoken.”

Are you sure you have the Correct verse. This is a verse spoken to Israel the majority, NOT THE FEW WHO HAD IT RIGHT.
That verse Ezek 5;17, is not MINE.
 

VCO

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This seal belonged to Nathan-Melech, who was:

Quote:
What is most likely to capture popular interest is the burnt clay seal impression, which features the words: “(belonging) to Nathan-Melech, Servant of the King” 2600 Years Old, "(LeNathan-Melech Eved HaMelech).” The fact that it was written without a surname indicates his fame is on par with celebs of today, such as singers Madonna or Adele. :End Quote.

It was found in western Givati Parking Lot Dig, and is further evidence of Temple being in the OPHEL. Nathan's Office was West of the Temple.



2 Kings 23:11 (YLT)
11 And he causeth to cease the horses that the kings of Judah have given to the sun from the entering in of the house of Jehovah, by the chamber of Nathan-Melech the eunuch, that is in the suburbs, and the chariots of the sun he hath burnt with fire.
 

VCO

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I have never heard the Song before, BUT I REALLY LIKE IT!

That is the Oak Ridge Boys.
 

VCO

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Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a
hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’”
Ah! You are correct .:D
About two weeks ago, I found out what is wrong with me. It is a Value in my heart, the bottom value just before it leaves the heart. It is not closing all the way, letting some of the blood back in the heart the wrong way. After several tests, they are going to fix it with a stint, day after tomorrow, 6-4-24. It goes in my leg and they inflate once it is in the Correct place in the heart. Say a prayer for it to go smoothy.
 

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About two weeks ago, I found out what is wrong with me. It is a Value in my heart, the bottom value just before it leaves the heart. It is not closing all the way, letting some of the blood back in the heart the wrong way. After several tests, they are going to fix it with a stint, day after tomorrow, 6-4-24. It goes in my leg and they inflate once it is in the Correct place in the heart. Say a prayer for it to go smoothy.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery my friend.
 

VCO

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THE SURGERY WAS A SUCCESS! I still have 10 days of recovery to go true, no Lifting of anything over 10 pounds. But it is as good as done. THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS! The Valve in my heart has been Corrected.
 

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THE SURGERY WAS A SUCCESS! I still have 10 days of recovery to go true, no Lifting of anything over 10 pounds. But it is as good as done. THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS! The Valve in my heart has been Corrected.
Praying for you this morning, I came on to read this wonderful news. Prayers will continue for you. Be well, and always know (you do) you are loved...................
 

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THE SURGERY WAS A SUCCESS! I still have 10 days of recovery to go true, no Lifting of anything over 10 pounds.
But it is as good as done. THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS! The Valve in my heart has been Corrected.
That is good news, indeed! I hope your recovery goes smoothly...
 

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THE SURGERY WAS A SUCCESS! I still have 10 days of recovery to go true, no Lifting of anything over 10 pounds. But it is as good as done. THANKS FOR THE PRAYERS! The Valve in my heart has been Corrected.
rejoice in the name Lord Jesus!!!
 

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Has anyone analyzed what the term "works" meant when it was written????

Many do not.

Many assume that no work is acceptable by God.
Try to tell them anything that even resembles a 'work?'
They end up with ear wax coated finger tips.

Works in Jesus day was decreed by the Pharisees who would invent deeds one must do to inherit eternal life.
They taught a system of works for and earning one's salvation... (its one reason Jesus hated the evil of the Pharisees)

The term "works" was a religious, man-made system for earning one's salvation.
"Works" when read about did not mean that God rejected works of men automatically.
God rejects only the man made works found within a system decreed by self righteous religious men.

With that in mind..

The disciples decided to ask Jesus what works he would require (vs the works that the Pharisees arrogantly decreed for men)

Jesus said that there is one acceptable work. A work we must do to gain eternal life.




Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


John 6:28-29


We are saved by one *work!* Not by works....

grace and peace to those who walk in it..
 

Genez

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About two weeks ago, I found out what is wrong with me. It is a Value in my heart, the bottom value just before it leaves the heart. It is not closing all the way, letting some of the blood back in the heart the wrong way. After several tests, they are going to fix it with a stint, day after tomorrow, 6-4-24. It goes in my leg and they inflate once it is in the Correct place in the heart. Say a prayer for it to go smoothy.
Excellent! ....

God wants you to continue your "stint" in His army. (y)
 

VCO

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Excellent! ....

God wants you to continue your "stint" in His army. (y)
Well if the "stint" in my heart, maybe if the Rapture is within 10 years, I have been praying that way, that if the Rapture is within 10 years, may all who are GOING will make it, will make it in perfect health.