Nothing in my hand I bring. . . . Titus 3:3-6

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Titus 3:3-6 (NKJV)
3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Your thoughts. . . . .
 
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Sincerely, assuredly, never coincidentally. God loves us all, otherwise the cross of Son, would not have ever happened, would it have?
He is risen where new life in love and mercy is received from Father and then learned to do, willingly, not ever having to do it as is said to do by first born flesh and blood, which will never please God at all Romans 7,8 expresses this to me, thank you very much Lord for you Love beyond measure to understand in first birth flesh nature, Need the new the born new in Father's Spirit and Truth thank you wow, woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7
 
Titus 3:3-6 (NKJV)
3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Your thoughts. . . . .
To God be the glory. Forever and ever. Amen.
 
Titus 3:3-6 (NKJV)
3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Your thoughts. . . . .
We have nothing to offer but the faith which is itself a gift from God. He saves us by His mercy, not by our efforts or righteousness.
 
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Titus 3:3-6 (NKJV)
3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Your thoughts. . . . .
And even though God foreknew us, knowing us from before the gospel called us to Christ, having known us from conception, before we began to be formed in the womb -

Jer 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”

- knowing us when we had become dead in our trespasses and sins -

Eph 2:1
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and short-comings,
Eph 2:2
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
Eph 2:3
among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
Eph 2:4
But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
Eph 2:5
even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
Eph 2:6
and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

- knowing that we do not deserve an offer of reconciliation -

2Co 5:18
Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
2Co 5:19
that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20
Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God.

Col 1:21
And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled
Col 1:22
in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—
Col 1:23
if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

- yet God does come to us and call us and justify us and sanctify us and glorify us, through the cross and resurrection -

Rom 8:29
For whom He foreknows, He also predestines to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30
Moreover whom He predestines, these He also calls; whom He calls, these He also justifies; and whom He justifies, these He also glorifies.

- and through the work of the Holy Spirit poured out upon all flesh.

Act 2:16
“But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
Act 2:17
‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and
your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.

Act 2:18
And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.
 
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We have nothing to offer but the faith which is itself a gift from God. He saves us by His mercy, not by our efforts or righteousness.
You are the one who claims to have nothing to offer. We give everything to God.
 
No. I could see @Solitude's point. If we give ourselves to God and He accepts us, I can't see how that does not mean we give God something.
We only give in response, and only from what He has already given us. In and of ourselves, we have nothing that earns, warrants, or assists salvation.
 
We only give in response, and only from what He has already given us. In and of ourselves, we have nothing that earns, warrants, or assists salvation.
I would agree to some extent. However, we have nothing to give that we did not receive.

1 John 4:19 - We love Him because He first loved us.
 
Born of water and born of the spirit

Ever notice right after Jesus said born of water and Spirit, he stated next verse to Nicodemus, Born of flesh then born of Spirit
Water is flesh in this case from the view I see, (noting the water and blood, that gushed out of Jesus, when the soldier pierced his side, blood and water gushed out. Thank you, does not mean one has to get water Baptist. To me it means for me to willingly do it as my good conscience to God personally, for going to that cross willingly in Son for us all, to save us in the resurrected life of Son for us all, to me thank you. Father reveals this to me personally and does to all that do believe too as well.
Having to do anything, takes away free choice to choose to do it, and that becomes under Law, that no other flesh but Son's flesh can and did do perfect. He did that for us all to believe it or not, thank you very much
God loves us all period, 1 Cor 13:4-7, 13 respond thank you between God and you personally, then you will know and be new in God Father's Spirit and Truth by God for you too
 
Titus 3:3-6 (NKJV)
3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Your thoughts. . . . .
In Titus 2:11-13, the content of our gift of salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so doing those works in obedience to the Law of God has absolutely nothing to do with trying to be good enough to earn our salvation as the result, but rather God graciously teaching to experience being a doer of those works is part of the content of His gift of salvation.
 
In Titus 2:11-13, the content of our gift of salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so doing those works in obedience to the Law of God has absolutely nothing to do with trying to be good enough to earn our salvation as the result, but rather God graciously teaching to experience being a doer of those works is part of the content of His gift of salvation.
Thanks for your comment. And I agree that any works that are done by us are not for salvation purposes, but are done out of love and thankfulness to God, who has provided for our needs [especially that of His son].
In James 2:26 we are told that faith without works is dead.
 
Thanks for your comment. And I agree that any works that are done by us are not for salvation purposes, but are done out of love and thankfulness to God, who has provided for our needs [especially that of His son].
In James 2:26 we are told that faith without works is dead.
Works have nothing to do with trying to earn our salvation as the result but that doesn’t mean that there is no connection between work and salvation. Jesus saves us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God’s law (1 John 3:4), so Jesus graciously teaching us to be a doer of the law is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it. In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith alone.
 
Works have nothing to do with trying to earn our salvation as the result but that doesn’t mean that there is no connection between work and salvation. Jesus saves us from our sins (Matthew 1:21) and sin is the transgression of God’s law (1 John 3:4), so Jesus graciously teaching us to be a doer of the law is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it. In Psalms 119:29-30, he wanted to put false ways far from him, for God to be gracious to him by teaching him to obey His law, and he chose the way of faith by setting it before him, so this has always been the one and only way of salvation by grace through faith alone.
Your error renders faith irrelevant.