As much as I dislike Obamas leadership there are far worse leaders that have risen throughout history. If people think Obama is the worst leader that ever existed then they need to open a history book. Obama is a peach compared to many.
Obama's Policies 'Pave the Way' for Antichrist
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Well spoken. forget doctrine that causes us to be dis-involved. That's what is wrong with the modern church, and that's why we are in the falling away. that's why I asked this question in post #13. Is it right to exempt ourselves from the world just because we are not of the world? The answer is no.
It isn't about the leaders themselves, it's about how they came into power. How were these leaders esteemed to be the best possible choice, or at least weren't detected of their deceptions before they became so powerful? The Bible instructs us on how to detect such things, but whoa to the shepherd that doesn't feed the flock and preach the reality of this life related to our Savior Jesus Christ.
Of this thread was about Hillary or Nancy pelosi then I wouldn't argue.
In all seriousness people need to be careful about how they label people. Affiliating someone with biblical prophecy saying they're antichrist could put false ideas in people's heads and lead people to unrighteously rebel against the government. That's also predestining people to eternal torment a judgement no man is allowed to give.
I think the bottom line is that most today preach against the Old Testament law as something that doesn't need to be recognized. Because of that rejection, today's Christian sect doesn't have the education to know deception when in fact it is right in front of us. We have lost these assets of comparisons. We now use another avenue than what God has given us which now leads people into religion instead of the schoolmaster that leads the lost to Christ. If we don't do it the way God has ordained it from the beginning, it always turns out wrong.
As I said It isn't about the leaders themselves, it's about how they came into power. Why is it that their deception wasn't detected? I saw our current president's deception before he became the prime candidate for president.
How many proclaiming Christians noticed this truth? Rhetorically speaking
I refrain from speaking evil of dignities even though I see their deceptions most of the time..
2 Peter 2:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
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Prophets spoke against Kings. Take heed, this is the way God works and exacts righteous judgement. He doesn't change.
Jeremiah 32:26-34 (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then came the word of the LORD unto Jeremiah, saying,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the Chaldeans, and into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and he shall take it:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And the Chaldeans, that fight against this city, shall come and set fire on this city, and burn it with the houses, upon whose roofs they have offered incense unto Baal, and poured out drink offerings unto other gods, to provoke me to anger.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For the children of Israel and the children of Judah have only done evil before me from their youth: for the children of Israel have only provoked me to anger with the work of their hands, saith the LORD.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]For this city hath been to me as a provocation of mine anger and of my fury from the day that they built it even unto this day; that I should remove it from before my face,
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.
Jeremiah 32:26-34 (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Then came the word of the LORD unto Jeremiah, saying,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the Chaldeans, and into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and he shall take it:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]And the Chaldeans, that fight against this city, shall come and set fire on this city, and burn it with the houses, upon whose roofs they have offered incense unto Baal, and poured out drink offerings unto other gods, to provoke me to anger.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For the children of Israel and the children of Judah have only done evil before me from their youth: for the children of Israel have only provoked me to anger with the work of their hands, saith the LORD.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]For this city hath been to me as a provocation of mine anger and of my fury from the day that they built it even unto this day; that I should remove it from before my face,
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it.
Daniel 2:20-21
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
Psalms 75:7 But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.
God Bless
Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
Psalms 75:7 But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.
God Bless
We know that God loves us and wants only good for us. We also are watching the world turn very wicked and immoral. If you doubt me, just look at the immodest clothes worn by people photographed for MSN.
God gave the rulers of Babylon power to take the Hebrews from their homeland, God tried to train Hebrews to obey Him. God used the Hebrews as an example time and again to show how God reacts to our actions.
Scripture tells us of how God will react to how we obey Him, today. It is even popular for our churches to say that just put Christ in our hearts and follow that, it cancels out scripture.
Something to consider. If all proclaiming Christians boycotted the liberal news media, and the TV shows, and movies that were clearly anti Biblical (not talking secular here) but such as Miley Syrus, and Bieber, and the like, and the purchase of seductive clothes, etc. how many anti Christ persuasions would come to a halt?
I agree and personally believe that the U.S. is about to be judged and brought low. A nation, people, house or individual that embraces the (styles) of life that have been embraced in this country, while the truth is stamped out of all vestiges of public view and application can only mean one thing. The embracement of sexual perversion is the last straw of a (reprobate) mind and all that is left for God to do is judgment (wrath) according to Romans.
2 Chronicles 7:13-14 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
God is saying this to His people. He isn't saying it to the world.
And then of course some will say the above 2 verses were for Israel back then and don't apply to us Gentiles for today. Their comments will be something like this; "That was the law to Israel only and then and the law has been abolished on the cross," Never taking into account that we live by all God has ever said, and will say.
Some will ask, "am I not humble enough?" And then say that others should not be so judgmental of them, and follow it up with; "Jesus told us not to judge each other."
Others will say they pray, and then complain when they don't get what they asked for.
And others will say; "why should I? God already knows what I need," and continue on, never really having that necessary private conversation every day with our Lord and Savior.
And then we have people that claim they have been saved, defining it as a thing that took place years ago, and that's good enough.
And finally we have a belief system that God will forgive without daily repentance from continuing sinful actions because that's all been done after going through the motions of the salvation experience, and being baptized in water. That's good enough isn't it?
When being reminded of these things, do we respond with a certain arrogance saying; "Seeking God's face after becoming a Christian? Huh???? I'm saved, what more is there?: That's a works doctrine, and we are not saved by works."
And then of course we don't want to forget about hashing over doctrinal issues. Not only is that entertaining, arguing is what edifies to clarify the division in the ranks.
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Now, with all that said is it any wonder why the Bible calls the true believers in Christ the "remnant"?
2 Peter 1:5-10 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
Hebrews 4:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
[SUP]14 [/SUP]If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
God is saying this to His people. He isn't saying it to the world.
And then of course some will say the above 2 verses were for Israel back then and don't apply to us Gentiles for today. Their comments will be something like this; "That was the law to Israel only and then and the law has been abolished on the cross," Never taking into account that we live by all God has ever said, and will say.
Some will ask, "am I not humble enough?" And then say that others should not be so judgmental of them, and follow it up with; "Jesus told us not to judge each other."
Others will say they pray, and then complain when they don't get what they asked for.
And others will say; "why should I? God already knows what I need," and continue on, never really having that necessary private conversation every day with our Lord and Savior.
And then we have people that claim they have been saved, defining it as a thing that took place years ago, and that's good enough.
And finally we have a belief system that God will forgive without daily repentance from continuing sinful actions because that's all been done after going through the motions of the salvation experience, and being baptized in water. That's good enough isn't it?
When being reminded of these things, do we respond with a certain arrogance saying; "Seeking God's face after becoming a Christian? Huh???? I'm saved, what more is there?: That's a works doctrine, and we are not saved by works."
And then of course we don't want to forget about hashing over doctrinal issues. Not only is that entertaining, arguing is what edifies to clarify the division in the ranks.
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Now, with all that said is it any wonder why the Bible calls the true believers in Christ the "remnant"?
2 Peter 1:5-10 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
Hebrews 4:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
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If the coming of the anti-Christ is sometime in the future, couldn't every action that everyone takes be seen as "paving the way for the anti-Christ"? After all, everything we do brings the future.
This strikes me as anti-Obama propaganda, and the fact that it comes from FOX News makes that clear.
This strikes me as anti-Obama propaganda, and the fact that it comes from FOX News makes that clear.
One could argue that anything from CNN and MSNBC is anti-christian propaganda.
I would rather be anti-obama than anti-christian.
I would agree with the above post. For real....for sure against the policies of the man and (in honor prefer my brothers and sisters in Christ even over my own extended family!)
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I was laughing when Obama said he cut the deficit in half. The reason why is because Obama doubled the deficit for years and then simply let it fall back to where it was. It's like when a market raises prices 50% and then has a "sale" slashing prices 50%. Lol. Only what Obama did was worse because he doubled the national debt in the process.
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"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." (1 John 2:15-16)
Revelation 13:7-10 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Jeremiah 15:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the LORD; Such as are for death, to death; and such as are for the sword, to the sword; and such as are for the famine, to the famine; and such as are for the captivity, to the captivity.
Jeremiah 43:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And when he cometh, he shall smite the land of Egypt, and deliver such as are for death to death; and such as are for captivity to captivity; and such as are for the sword to the sword.
Revelation 13:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
watch for the fatal wound