On nostalgia

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Lanolin

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I find myself saying..remember glass milk bottles? They got delivered to your door/letterbox everyday. Fresh milk, with cream on top. Then you washed them and put them put to collect the next day with a token.

Now you have to go buy the milk yourself from the supermarket, in a plastic bottle and chuck it away/recycle bin it if you don't have a cow.
 
Eli1

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Good posts Lanolin.
Yes, i don't know why i got an idyllic childhood and teenage years, and some other child didn't. It's a question of suffering, which bothers me a lot.

I don't know for example how someone with a lot of problems or even trauma during their childhood or teen years, can go back to that time and feel "nostalgic" about it.
Most of the time is repressed and pushed down like you said, something they wished to forget i guess and never bring up.

But even in their worst moments they might have something good to go back to i guess, i don't know ... it's a difficult situation.
 
JaumeJ

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I certainly recall glass milk bottles. Actually, I was just thinking about them this past week. Great minds!
 
Lanolin

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Well everyone as they say is different and even within families one child may have had an idyllic childhood and their brother/sister may have had a nightmare.

Jesus would say 'Don't look back' although it's very tempting to do so when you reach a certain age especially if things aren't going so well for you later. Those who've survived tough times earlier in life don't tend to look back and probably too busy enjoying and living life now to be nostalgic about the past.
 
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Agreed. Someone with a rough childhood would probably like to run away from those memories, not go back to them.
 
Lanolin

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People drink alcohol or are addicted to drugs for that very reason, it stops them from remembering the pain.

Pain is a teacher though and you have to respond to it appropriately, but few people know how to respond to pain. Alot of people prefer that pain be silenced and covered up, instead of soothed and healed.
 
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Lanolin said:
People drink alcohol or are addicted to drugs for that very reason, it stops them from remembering the pain.

Pain is a teacher though and you have to respond to it appropriately, but few people know how to respond to pain. Alot of people prefer that pain be silenced and covered up, instead of soothed and healed.
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Sometimes, every once in a while, lanolin comes through with a keen observation.
 
Lanolin

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People shouldnt be drinking cows milk anyway...or at least adults shouldnt. They should be weaned off it. Its not good to have too much of it.

I know one generation was bought up on excess cow milk (free milk in schools) and developed an intolerance to it and now there are so many problems with diabetes and cancers, not to mention heart attacks from having too much butter.

But people in their 70s and most baby boomers still buy and drink milk especially in their tea and coffees and chocolate. Its kind of weird, but then if you have so much of the stuff its coming out your ears the govts try to get rid of it somehow.
 
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Lanolin said:
Do you hang round people who are older than you?
I dont like to do it too much cos sometimes they start saying stuff like 'in my day we....' or 'remember when ....' and you are like I wasnt even born back then or no, I don't remember cos I wasnt there.

I have noticed that sometimes my older friends on facebook start ranting and raving about how things arent like how they used to be and how young people these days are ignorant etc. Its really starting to annoy me. And its not like they can do anything about it, cos times change!

What is the deal with all this nostalgia and looking back. You cant go back to how things used to be you've got to live in thee present as you cant change the past.

I dont want to be the person in ten years time pining for the days when I could do whatever it is I do now. That would make me feel old. And right now im not lamenting the days of my youth either, as I dont remember them that well and to be honest they werent THAT great. I think times are better now it depends on how you look at things. Im not depending on the govt to fix things, only God stays the same yesterday, today and forever.

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yes. for about 17 years, i was the youngest of the group. they were older business men & women. i love the old "we used to" conversations. the deal with the nostalgia is, truly, the old days were much better. things like family getting along better, living closer to each other, higher level of trust, more freedom, less tragic crime, less government control, less of a characteristic of being on guard for yourself, etc. being annoyed by that isn't worth it. bypass it, just forget it. times are better now? wow! what country are you living in? certainly not here, the times are better. well, blessings to you.
 
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Karlon said:
yes. for about 17 years, i was the youngest of the group. they were older business men & women. i love the old "we used to" conversations. the deal with the nostalgia is, truly, the old days were much better. things like family getting along better, living closer to each other, higher level of trust, more freedom, less tragic crime, less government control, less of a characteristic of being on guard for yourself, etc. being annoyed by that isn't worth it. bypass it, just forget it. times are better now? wow! what country are you living in? certainly not here, the times are better. well, blessings to you.
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Ah, nostalgia... It really does make the best rose-colored glasses.

The automobile is here now
And the wagon days are through
The airplanes are a-flying
Good neighbors are so few
Everybody's in a hurry
It's money that gets you through
But you didn't need any money
When the wagon was new

What that old song didn't mention was, the wagon didn't have air conditioning, it would kill your back if you rode very long and you pooped in a little wood shack outside the house, into a hole you dug in the ground.

Man I sure love modern times! My family is tighter than a drum, I got some of those good friends and neighbors people say they can't find, and we have air conditioning now.

If life is really that bad for you, maybe you should move down here to southwest Tennessee where I am.
 
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Lynx said:
Ah, nostalgia... It really does make the best rose-colored glasses.

The automobile is here now
And the wagon days are through
The airplanes are a-flying
Good neighbors are so few
Everybody's in a hurry
It's money that gets you through
But you didn't need any money
When the wagon was new

What that old song didn't mention was, the wagon didn't have air conditioning, it would kill your back if you rode very long and you pooped in a little wood shack outside the house, into a hole you dug in the ground.

Man I sure love modern times! My family is tighter than a drum, I got some of those good friends and neighbors people say they can't find, and we have air conditioning now.

If life is really that bad for you, maybe you should move down here to southwest Tennessee where I am.
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usually, when people say the old days, it means the not too far distant past. so i assent that presently, the times are much better than a hundred years or more ago.
 
Lynx

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Karlon said:
usually, when people say the old days, it means the not too far distant past. so i assent that presently, the times are much better than a hundred years or more ago.
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And we didn't have smartphones to get to online forums to complain about modern life.

I still assert that this is a great time to be alive.
 
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I have fond memories of the penny candy store that was a couple blocks from my house. I'd ride my stingray bicycle there and look through the window glass at all the wonderful candy. When I had some pennies this was where I'd go to spend them.
 
Lynx

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Karlon said:
usually, when people say the old days, it means the not too far distant past. so i assent that presently, the times are much better than a hundred years or more ago.
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All my life people have been talking about the good old days. When I was young I assumed they were right about the good old days being better. But now I'm 45 and the good old days they are talking about were years that I have lived through. They were not better.

That old song I pulled up is something I intended to illustrate the point. It was written long before I was born, but even it was talking about the good old days. Apparently people have been talking about the good old days for a long, long time, and the good old days are always 40 or 50 years ago...

As long as I can remember it people have been talking about the good old days. As long as I can remember people have been talking about how tough times are right now. Right now is always tough and the past is always better.

Phooey!

Old songs written before I was born talk about how people used to be good neighbors and used to love everybody. I don't think that has ever been the case. It certainly wasn't the case when I was a kid, or when I was a young adult, or now. But the good old days people are talking about right now, when I am 45, are good old days that happened when I was a kid.

Conclusion, the good old days is a crock.
 
JaumeJ

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Perhaps many are making reference to their youth and younger adulthood. All I know is, if you think things are bad today, be still, for they will be much worse. This must come into being or there will be no end to the wickedness called "this age."
 
Lanolin

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Young people are generally idealistic and want to make the world a better place, but I found the current generation in power now (after getting rid of younger people) i.e the baby boomer and tale end of the hippies, gen xers, are just making things worse. They learned bullying from their neglectful parents and they are carrying that bullying into politics.

It is monstrous when supposedly grown adults carry on like kids. Anyway the generation gap is still there as it ever was.
 
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