Once again Trump picks Paula White as his "spiritual advisor."

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JohnDB

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Yeah....
Trump is NOT a Christian leader. He is a leader that values and more importantly RESPECTS Christians and their values.

Paula White is of course extremely short on theology and long on grifting. He could have just as easily gone for Joyce Meyers, Creflo Dollar, or any of the others hauled before congress for grifting.

So....where there are many more traditional, conservative pastors available to Trump....he chose what and whom he chose.
 

Dude653

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That job shouldn't exist. Separation of church and state
 

ResidentAlien

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That job shouldn't exist. Separation of church and state
I have no problem with it in theory. They're too crafty to come right and say they're promoting Christianity; that's why they call it "faith" office. They say they want to promote things like religious freedom, a strong America, the right to life, family values, etc. That's cool, I'm for those things too; but everyone know the WHFO is just a front for Christian nationalism. Just like the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 serve a Christian nationalist agenda.
 

JohnDB

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I have no problem with it in theory. They're too crafty to come right and say they're promoting Christianity; that's why they call it "faith" office. They say they want to promote things like religious freedom, a strong America, the right to life, family values, etc. That's cool, I'm for those things too; but everyone know the WHFO is just a front for Christian nationalism. Just like the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 serve a Christian nationalist agenda.
Just in case you really don't understand how things are....
I support a Christian Nationalist Agenda.

The USA is a Christian nation founded by Protestants for Protestants. Unless you want to completely rewrite history or desire some other form of nation to live within....that's what the USA is.

However, Heaven is going to be a Godly Kingdom and not a democracy. It's going to be a Monarchy/Empire with a single entity that will be completely Sovereign. (GOD) There will be no "discussion" or debate with Jesus's leadership there either. He will be in charge and whatever He says goes end of story.
 

SomeDisciple

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^^^^

So, when this kind of stuff is going on within the US; you'd have to be crazy to think it's not happening with foreign aid.
 

Intersection

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Just in case you really don't understand how things are....
I support a Christian Nationalist Agenda.

The USA is a Christian nation founded by Protestants for Protestants. Unless you want to completely rewrite history or desire some other form of nation to live within....that's what the USA is.

However, Heaven is going to be a Godly Kingdom and not a democracy. It's going to be a Monarchy/Empire with a single entity that will be completely Sovereign. (GOD) There will be no "discussion" or debate with Jesus's leadership there either. He will be in charge and whatever He says goes end of story.
The USA was founded upon the Protestant genocide of Indians.
 

Squigglylines

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Just in case you really don't understand how things are....
I support a Christian Nationalist Agenda.

The USA is a Christian nation founded by Protestants for Protestants. Unless you want to completely rewrite history or desire some other form of nation to live within....that's what the USA is.

However, Heaven is going to be a Godly Kingdom and not a democracy. It's going to be a Monarchy/Empire with a single entity that will be completely Sovereign. (GOD) There will be no "discussion" or debate with Jesus's leadership there either. He will be in charge and whatever He says goes end of story.

Define the agenda though. Will this mean NAR which is futurist will end up molding Christianity in the US into only Tolerating futurism and ending AI,RFID chips and the other things they see as potential Marks of the Beast? Or in the other direction will AI flourish and Amil's and Preterites surface to the occasion and convince Trump the MOTB was fulfilled two thousand years ago and so AI,iris scans and such no longer apply as the Mark? Across a few weeks Trump has done both if you notice Supported AI,Crypto currency ect. and appointed Paula White(NAR) who sees the Mark as coming in a future tense. There may be a great upcoming division among Christian Nationalist unless the agenda is defined.
 

SomeDisciple

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Not always. Do some research on William Penn.
I think he meant that America was founded upon the subjugation of genocidal Indians. Hiawatha and the Iroquois confederacy were pretty gangster. They really should have sided with the colonies during the American revolution. I think if all the indian tribes sided with the colonies, they would have been revered rather than despised.
 

SomeDisciple

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Yeah they also killed a ton of women accusing them of being witches
The Salem witch trials are the perfect example of what happens when grown men take the hysteria of teenage girls too seriously.... yet feminism still happened.... it's like we never learn.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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There's nothing unconstitutional nor Unbiblical about consulting a Christian about decisions, encouragement or whatever. It's just that I remember that Paula White had a works based doctrinal teaching about salvation, so that disqualified her as a believer in Christ.

Secondly, she has a lot of baggage that the world would look at and possibly desecrate or blaspheme the Word of God due to affiliation.
 

gb9

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There's nothing unconstitutional nor Unbiblical about consulting a Christian about decisions, encouragement or whatever. It's just that I remember that Paula White had a works based doctrinal teaching about salvation, so that disqualified her as a believer in Christ.

Secondly, she has a lot of baggage that the world would look at and possibly desecrate or blaspheme the Word of God due to affiliation.
not a good decision nor is it a good look for trump.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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not a good decision nor is it a good look for trump.
This is just a statement in a random article.
I have not taken time to determine it's veracity. If it's true, I can see where he became acquainted with her and her ex-husband. There's been a familiarity and possible friendship with her going back to that period.
The other thing that occurs to me is that Norman Vincent Peale was his former pastor. He popularized the positive thinking movement.

"Randy and Paula also reportedly received $5 million a year in compensation from their church, and purchased a $3.5 million condo in Trump Tower in New York City, according to Senate documents."
 

ResidentAlien

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"But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess . . . " Revelation 2:20
 

Dude653

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American evangelicals "women shouldn't be preaching as per I Corinthians"
Trump hires women preacher
Cognitive dissonance insues